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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
Does anyone know when the babies will be named? Or maybe they won’t be named this year?
8-4-16 To All- Geo and Bb2 8-3-16
rjoneal: I thought it was in reference to all the months you spelled CarolV as “Carol IV”!!
8-4-16 reply Betsy- ok I understand. 🙂
😀
Made me feel like royalty….like Henry the VIII or Elizabeth II
please come back live stream
6:04:15 Tiny intruder on the nest. Upper right hand side. Does anyone know what kind of bird that was?
Time for an oldie- 6/19/16
Look at those cuties! To think they were even that small at one time! Talk about ‘kids’ growing up fast!!
Precious!! Hard to believe that was not so long ago!
8-4-16 Reply CarolV nice pic hard to believe it was just taken on 6-19-16 look how far they have come. Love the pic.
It was just a funny to you CarolV we all know how when I use my phone all my words come out messed up,not meant to be anything else. 🙂
I am just fine.
I’m good ,,knew you were joking..I was asking about YOUR nestorations…everything moving along? I hear they always take longer than planned or promised…
Picture from June 8th..Rjoneal’s picture
So cute!! No wonder we all fell in love!
Rjoneal & June C – thanks for the great TBT pic! It’s amazing how quickly they grow up. Wow!
8-5–16 reply- Monica your welcome glad you enjoyed.
Aahhhh – Thanks for the memory! It seems like ages ago. I certainly will have empty nest syndrome but there is next year.
8:30am- Hope Trey waits for the video stream to work again!
Am thinking, today is the day….this chick is just gonna fly off the nest like its the most natural thing in the world…no problem,I got this!
Now we all want her to wait! I m still showing video down on my phone
6:17am- George starts the day with a good one! Gracie takes charge…………..Uno shows up; and Trey waits…
“What does a kid have to do to get attention? Stand on my head? ” Gracie still feeding and Trey still waiting
6:00am- Yup,everything working…………
Is that a new egg in the nest ?
Scrolled back to watch Trey at 19:33 8/3. Flapping & flapping going from one side of the nest to the other. Love it.
Rjoneal THANK YOU ! i hope we ALL can still keep in contact..Rjoneal, i’m excited to find out what Mike’s project is all about aren’t you?..rubs hands together lol huggs
About 8:00pm…Dos and Trey having a chat…
8-4-16 reply- CarolV Dos is telling Trey now dont even try and fight me on this next fish you might be stuck in the nest but I am not and I had to take time out of my morning to sit here and wait I am going to get that fish. Trey-fine momma will take care of me later I am not ready to grow up yet, kinda cozy in this nest. You cant lay down in a tree so I think I will stay here a little longer I like to stretch my legs out when I sleep.
Head check………….
My fledge guess was today for Trey…nope…
We have Aug. 4–JuneC- Lil’One…………….and-Aug 5- Jara-Tiger
That spot near center looks like where Uno used to do her worst twisting
I LOVE the joy they find in taking off , flying & landing when they first fledge. They sure are beautiful! Do we know sexes yet?
All guesses. We won t know for sure, unless they were examined by experts
George has been pretty busy fishing this afternoon:
15:38 – whole fish. I think yummy flounder. Unfortunately, a few minutes later it flopped out of the nest. I guess it’s less painful than being torn apart.
16:28 – whole fish. I think it was tackled by #1. Not sure. The baby left with the fish around 16:48.
17:51 – small fish delivery. I think this went to #2.
17:57 – another fish delivery to #3. She ate it all by herself!!
18:11 – another small fish delivery to #2.
18:17 – Gracie flies in with a nice size whole fish, and shares it with #3. #1 returns to the nest and his siblings each have fish, but no fish for him. Looks like he’s telling George on the perch that he’s hungry, and
18:25 – another fish for #1.
I would say things are happy in Ospreyland tonight. Hopefully, they won’t need a bedtime snack.
8-4-16 Reply- Marlene excellent fish count and notes great job thanks for the info especially since I have not been able to watch as much as I use to doing home projects for the next month.
Thanks again.
Aug. 3 8Pm ish I am being totally entertained watching one of the sibs showing Chick #3 how it’s done. Wish we cold understand what they are saying; maybe something like:
“Now watch: I’m going to take off, soar for a bit, then land back here in a minute. Then you can do it!”
“Wow, you look great!! Looks like so much fun!! You actually mean I could do the same????? Oh, wow. Let me sleep on that……maybe I will fledge tomorrow!!”
8-4-16 Reply- Sallyanne , June C and I were thinking the same thing yesterday emailing each other. Perfect wording for humanizing our family to funny how we do that.
Nice to know i m not the only one making conversations in my head!!!☺️
Weather forecast…Mid 60s overnight and clear…humidity perfect…Thurs. & Fri., sunny, high 70s….warming over weekend…possible t-storm Saturday. Nights still coolish-yay…
Again.can’t spend time going thru comments the way I’d like…loving all the pictures as always….Looking forward to a good, long read …..
8-4-16 Reply- CarolV thanks for weather update for those of us who dont live anywhere near there and wonder what the temp really is.
FYI- thats winter weather to us Floridians 🙂
For me, this is perfect! Can’t deal with heat and humidity…….not a summer lover………….! And a lot of forecasts from the NYC area highlight city and western LI weather…often another climate altogether……….
Double shot of osprey love!
About 4:30pm–Trey was doing a super practice session….out of the frame repeatedly, holding it up there at times.
Learning rudder control….
Cute pantaloons…….
“…and I sneaked up behind that pesty VF and I said BOO…”
8-4-16 reply-CarolV now thats perfect shot and love the BOO!
@6:25pm…everyone on nest; all kids eating……………
6:17pmEDT- Gracie just brought in a big fish, which no doubt will get shared around.
It has been another busy afternoon…Was able to go back to about 3:35pm…There have been at least 4 deliveries since then and this one. And Uno already had something off to the side. George and Gracie both brought fish in. And Dos managed to lose at least one overboard. Guess he has to learn to take them apart himself, so a few fish are gonna escape in the process. Not that they are ESCAPING….a long fall isn’t good for their health…I’m sure some bird or animal will find the carcass.
Also, @6:25, George dropped in with a chunk of fish for Uno; Dos had one already; Trey was sharing with Gracie.
And assorted VF action……
So, just for clarification, is this Dos with the shorter black side stripe?
Dorothy, thanks for posting the link, and for OZ permitting it, of the baby osprey returning to his nest at Hog Island. Poor baby must’v’e been so frightened.
It was such a pleasure to be able to so that. Bierre hugged the nest all day yesterday but took his first intentional flight this am and we’re all hoping that Eric will do the same today.
The parents kept such good contact with him while he was hiding in the nearby trees and sort of coaxed him back to the nest. Out of sorrow great joy.
I just love watching the babies come and go as they please and I can’t wait for Baby #3 to do the same. I don’t want them to go, but what a great job Gracie and George did, to raise 3 healthy chicks! Thank you for setting this up for us all to watch! And also, so happy to see the second bird come back to the nest in Hog Island… and so sad for the loss of the 3rd bird to the eagle, that was just heartbreaking.
At 3:24pm – I think it was George who brought in a fish. The biggies ‘ran’ for it; one of them took it and the other one (#2 I think) pecked a couple of times at his Dad. Jeez!! These guys are not nice and they don’t share! lol
Gracie & George
Long and anxiously awaited their landing witnessed with delight.
their epic voyage through prolonged and foul migration they have
battled to survive, triumphant and now,still ,they are alive: crucial
for brood to share.
Shy of human company,in a world wild watery, they dive into a shower
of diamonds.
With Brave tenacity
they’ll fish and feed and teach and fish and feed until..
at last their precious fledglings fly.
Beautiful, Bre!!
Beautiful. That should be on the Home page
8-3-16 Reply Bre- Once again you knocked out of the park nice poetry Bre 🙂
Very pretty.
Beautiful….knew it would be..
Thank you. Again! Love “shower of diamonds” in particular…I can see the water droplets flying everywhere!
Beautiful Bre…shower of diamonds my favorite too
BEAUTIFUL !
How lovely!
I was so excited because I had seen chick #3 flapping its wing just a short while before when I looked at the screen and saw this:
And, then, a few seconds later I saw this:
Love it!! You’d think you were going to post this picture! lol
Correction: It looks like they knew you were going to post this picture! lol
This one really made me laugh…very funny..
I laughed out loud! Thanks for that, Betsy.
Precious!
LOL! Great one!
8-4-16 Reply- Betsy love love love this pic too funny had me laughing so hard !
Hi Betsy: What are we looking at?
Kathleen: Chick #3 had been going to town flapping his/her wings. Then when I looked at the computer screen a few minutes later all I saw was Gracie and I thought chick #3 had fledged … until a few seconds later I saw him/her poke his/her head up from behind Gracie. See now??
Betsy – Thank you. I see now.
😀
I though the same thing! He fledge, then I was a tiny glimpse! Lol
8-3-16 went to take pic of Bb3 and bug photo bomb my pic !
if you had tried to get the bug shot you most likely would have not..Second bug shot u caught this year…keeper
Too true!! Tried and tried!
Awww – little guy all by his lonesome. I hope he fledges sometime this week! 🙂
Baby pondering “Should I go”? “Not sure about this but they left me all alone”………. 1:27pm. He’s been sitting by the edge for a while now enjoying the view.
In the age of technology, this site has reconnected viewers with our local wildlife and nature as a whole. I highly recommend the BBC series ‘ Life Story ‘, it follows animals from birth to mating to eventually producing offspring. It’s mind blowing to watch Mother Nature at its best. Available on Netflix & DVD at your local library. ?
Hi Trinity,
My first time posting here and fairly new to this nest. I have watched the Hellgate Montana nest and Maine nest. Needed to come here for a break. Just wanted to say that I watch the BBC series here in CT on cable. The cinematography is absolutely spectacular. The channel is BBCAmerica and currently they are airing a series call “The Hunt” on sunday nights. Sometimes I have to quickly change the channel just seconds before the kill. Hee=hee
Yes the brutal reality of nature can be too much at times ( I forward past the kill scenes as well ! ). The MT and ME nests have suffered huge losses this season, hope you enjoy the LI cam. I like to think these sites raise awareness about littering, overuse and improper disposal of chemicals, actions that affect our natural surroundings.
Awe #3 can really lay low when there’s a flyover 12:41:40
Hope this is okay but for those of you interested in the story at the Hog Island Osprey nest here is a short video of Little B returning to the nest after the tragedy of August 1st.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61-OzBuJDk Audubon nest cam Hog Island ©2016
Thank you for sharing….who doesn’t love a happy ending!
TY. Needed a happy thought
This is just heartbreaking. But so happy that the one chick did return to the nest finally. Thanks for posting the link. I couldn’t decide if I wanted to watch it or not, but finally gave in.
I have been looking at this site for 2 years.. I don’t post must, but I read all of the the comments ..It is truely amazing what we can learn ..Thank you all the posts,photos, & videoes ..Thank you Tommy for this amazing view…This new camera is the best…I hate to see this all end, which will be soon so then we have to wait till next year …Again THANK YOU ALL…..
8-3-16 CarolV – did you see my ice cream pic I posted for you and Betsy?
Ps I noticed you lost you L in your name so I found it for you lol:) post on 8-2-16
rjoneal: You are so funny!! Here, ? — you need coke-bottle Rx!! I’ve always seen it only spelled CAROLV (CarolV)!!
Ooh — I forgot to put 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 !!
8-3-16 Rply – BETSY you are needing the glasses here are the post she made on 8-2-16 with no L in her name! 🙂
CaroV August 2, 2016 at 9:38 pm – Reply
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Forecast calls for mid to low 60s. tonight..Good sleeping weather….Several days of sun, mid to high 70s, warming up towards weekend…
I am so far behind in really reading comments.Skimming just not satisfactory! Knew I should have retired! HAGN, everyone……………….
CaroV August 2, 2016 at 9:41 pm – Reply
In response to the Hog Island tragedy….it is sad that they lost a vital, thriving chick in such a difficult way. Best of luck to the remaining family…
CaroV August 2, 2016 at 9:49 pm – Reply
Between that, the DYFI nest loss , the BCO loss of 3 to illness, the CCcam loss to an owl., predation elsewhere by raccoons., Sandpoint cam loss…and they haven’t even gotten out on their own yet!
Let s all get some rum to go with the coke bottles! We ll be seeing fine!!!
Betsy…Rjoneal caught my typo on 8/2 evening posts….just spotted it myself…Hope all is well with you both
8-4-16 reply- CarolV all good here it was a funny haaa It was like your keyboard lettter L was stuck so when you pushed on it it didnt work like the old technology.
I am good with Betsy 🙂
CarolV: I think all is well. Like you I’m backed up on reading comments (July 11th was the last time I really read all of the comments in detail!!!) … I’ve just been skimming — usually the first batch that gets posted!! And, maybe a quick glance at the next batch that gets posted!!
Rjoneal….Guess I’m Going to L with myself! Thanks for finding me one!
BB#3 still being fed by mamma 9:30 am
mama
9:11 am I think it’s 2 sharing it’s fish with #1. I know that #1 or 2 has been getting it’s own catch. I’m going to say it’s 2 for the fact that she was the first to fledge. Mom is feeding #3. I believe we have two females and a male. #1 Male, #2 Female & #3 a female.
Anyone know when the names be chosen?
Not sure if number 1 or 2 but he was mean getting that fish from George! ..George is like “I’m outta here” Probably to get for 3!
Gracie and George’s nest must be the place everyone wants to be, as at 7:05 and intruder landed in the nest while Trey and Gracie were in there. Gracie didn’t like it one bit, and tried to politely shoo him away, but ended up having to almost push him out of the nest. Then she took off after him to be sure he got the message!
Hi All,
I just hope today is a better feeding day for Littlebit. I know the parents withhold food so they will fledge and hunt but littlebit is due a few extra days and yesterday was not a good day for her. I’m also worried about her size. She really looks a lot smaller than the other two. I have actually been thinking that I have it totally backwards. I think #1 and #2 are females and Littlebit is a male. I don’t know and probably never will, but I will call her Littlebit and she until proven wrong!
I’m glad the weather looks cooler and calm there. Good learning to fly weather. I’m in Ohio and it is in the 90’s and high humidity. It might be coming your way!
Trey had a a great feeding last night and has been fed well today. I think Trey is a male because there is no sign of the black spots/necklace that indicate female. Last night, Trey’s crop was very large, indicating great feedings. Try is 6 days younger than #1 so he should be smaller. Very fun to watch this successful nest!
Paula – hello! I think the little guy (#3) is male. As a matter of fact, I think he’s a good size; I was thinking that yesterday when I logged on. It seems he’s about the same size as #2 now.
I think that #1 is female and that #2 and #3 are male. I’m sure the little guy will fledge sometime this week. 🙂
Oh, btw, one of the comments yesterday was that #3 was fed by Gracie a lot yesterday – at some point, at any rate. I don’t always watch but I did see him getting fed yesterday. 🙂
I wonder if #1  are looking larger because they are using and building new muscles.
This VF didn’t want to leave! Repeated bumps and flaps were needed to move this kid along!
Hi Carol – What is VF?
6:53am- Dos must have seen Dad coming, as he flies in to wait. Took control of this delivery……………..
Despite being right there, Trey loses it……….
Just a BIG thank you to TOMMY, CHRISTINA, JOEY, PAUL and everyone responsible for putting up and supporting this camera. Nowhere else can we get this kind of view of our Island!
Another quick skim thru….thanks to Rob B. for his great information on juveniles hunting…always good to learn something new. I really appreciate-as I’m sure everyone does- his participation and interest in “our” nest!
Really enjoying all the photos and videos.! And thanks to all who comment, not just on my efforts, but on the great job every contributor makes. We all have unique points of view and it’s great to compare.Now I just need more time to really look everything over!
Another good windy day for the “lil’ guy” to practice his/her helicoptering…lot’s of practice yesterday too. Maybe a good gust of wind will make the decision for him/her. It’s time to fly #3!
8-2-16 Another pic all 3 bb looking out they each have their seperate corners to guard and watch
This is just a sweet picture…….. This reminds me of my two ‘babies’ (4 legged brats) when they were out on our deck by our kitchen. One would face west and the other would face east. Needless to say, we never had any problems with intruders at our house!
8-3-16 Reply- Karen DeLong I know what you mean I have a Samoyed and a German Shepard and sometimes they sit and look out opposite directions love all animals !
Thanks for commenting on my picture, I thought it wont be long and there will be no more babies to take pics of so I better get as many as I can now.
Great shot ↙?↖?↗?
8-3-16 Reply- birdRJSviewer16 thanks for noticing love all your symbols.
LOVE IT!
This is gorgeous.
8-2-16 I have to share this pic all 3 bb look at Gracie, we are hungry and being the good mom she does go out and bring back a fish way to Gracie!
Forecast calls for mid to low 60s. tonight..Good sleeping weather….Several days of sun, mid to high 70s, warming up towards weekend…
I am so far behind in really reading comments.Skimming just not satisfactory! Knew I should have retired! HAGN, everyone……………….
In response to the Hog Island tragedy….it is sad that they lost a vital, thriving chick in such a difficult way. Best of luck to the remaining family…
Between that, the DYFI nest loss , the BCO loss of 3 to illness, the CCcam loss to an owl., predation elsewhere by raccoons., Sandpoint cam loss…and they haven’t even gotten out on their own yet!
12:20AM
And the Hellgate nest, where none of the eggs–five eggs laid–were viable. And think of all the nests we don’t see.
It is sad, but It proves how difficult their survival is in nature and how precious each surviving Osprey is.
8-2-16 reply – Robin glad you liked my comparison shots of Gracie and Bb3 thanks for commenting.
7:28pm…Someone is learning control! This was a nice, smooth landing
It was a busy afternoon, with multiple deliveries, intruder alerts,coming and going………….
At 3:26pm; 4:35pm; 5:58pm: looked like George made deliveries, sometimes amid turmoil…@ the 4:35 delivery, there was an intruder alert. The kid,not sure, seemed to get distracted and it looked like Mr. Porgy flipped away, probably out, to be someone else’s dinner tonight.
At 4:48pm, Gracie brought in a large whole fish. I know Trey had a good meal from this. Other fish were turned over to Biggies.
4:35pm- Intruder…
Chick #3 looking up at camera. What kind of goofy face is this??
“I can cross my eyes! Can you?”
Leesa: I’m going to have you caption my pictures!! 😀
8-2-16 CarolV and Betsy my ice cream truck music and you can hear people all babies and Gracie look and listen.
This is such a nice shot Rjoneal. Could you identify the chicks for me? I have trouble telling Chick #2 and Chick #3 apart. Thank you for contributing all of your pics and comments to this site. I enjoy them so much. Like you and all the other followers I love our Osprey family!
Oops, typo on that above comment…..I meant I have trouble telling Chick #1 and Chick #2 apart. I always recognize our little one!
8-3-16 Reply- Ginger G
Ice cream pic Bb1 left side up front by camera behind Bb1 is Gracie /Bb3 right side up front by camera behind Bb3 is Bb1
8-3-16 Reply Ginger G. You should look at the pic 8-2-16 Another pic all 3 bb looking out they each have their separate corners to guard and watch( Bb2 Left front by camera Bb1 right side and Bb3 by the water)
Thank you Rjoneal. I will check both photos.
Don’t worry about food – the parents withhold food to encourage chicks to fledge and juveniles to become independent. They need to do this as soon as possible — remember, they will be migrating in just a matter of weeks, an arduous journey that they will make alone.
Aug 2, 20016….So very enjoying this scene of the three grand healthy babes in the nest! 5:50pm xoxoxo.
17:58pm..Whole Great Family together in a very smaller looking nest!!
fish overboard .. Dern it! took it from Mom and over it went…
correction it was George who brought it and good size too…
Chick #2 & 3 eating at opposite ends ?? ??
I read the comments about the eagle attack at Hog Island. Does anyone know when our babies will be big enough not to be taken by an eagle? Nature is so beautiful, but there is that sad side. I’m glad they located the missing osprey chick. I don’t think there are any eagles around here. Has anyone seen any on LI? I haven’t.
Please ignore previous post. She’s in the nest!
wHERE IS gRACIE??? i HOPE SHE’S ok.
Gracie is fine, spotted numerous times today in the nest, and plastic/twig free!
Good to hear ?
8-2-16 Reply – Kathleen you crack me up lol !
BB3 reminds me of Spock sometimes…….With the way his feathers part in the back from his bald spot, just watch when the wind is blowing, feathers stick out like Spock’s ears. Just a cute observation. 🙂
Great news from Hog Island!!! Hope it’s okay to post this info from their website:
Breaking news from Steve Kress:
Dear Osprey Friends:
I am pleased to share the news that a search team from Hog Island and Project Puffin found osprey Little B on the mainland about 1/4 mile from the nest. Sharp-eyed Project Puffin intern Aspen Ellis spotted the missing fledgling high in a pine. The fledgling is healthy and parents are perching nearby. The fact that it travelled this distance and is perched high in the tree suggests it can fly-which supports Dr. Bierregaard’s view that his namesake osprey was in fact old enough to fly. And- a quick enough responder to instinctively recognize an eagle as a threat and take the evasive action in an instant of flying for the first time! This good news points to how chance events and natural selection can favor individual birds who look so similar to our eyes. Meanwhile, Hog Island staff will keep watch, hoping to deter the eagle from making another visit.
For Dorothy: That is super great news! I was beginning to think Little B was wounded. Thank you for the great news.
Great to hear the good news!
Thank you Dorothy for the great update.
I commented on the tragedy at Hog Island right after it happened yesterday but it must have gotten lost in cyberspace. ?
Anyway, they found Bierre -great news! And Eric is still in the nest.
I am deathly afraid the eagle will return because he knows that is a food source.
I’m so glad to see Littlebit finally get fed. She’s trying to eat so fast I’m afraid she’s gonna choke. Poor little thing hasn’t had anything that I saw all day. She was going around and eating the dregs left by her sibs from the fish they had earlier but that’s all I saw her have. I only saw the biggies with 1 fish each as well. I guess fishing is bad today or maybe George is trying to teach them how to hunt!
Way to go Trey! 12:39 pm,8/2, trying so hard to fly. Almost 10 seconds off the nest.
Has anyone seen our beloved Trey get some food this morning? Rewound late back to 4 and saw some of the feeding and fish squabbling. Wonder who munched that poor fish left over night? Trey was really interested but the other biggie had it for a long time, then left it, and seemed as Trey just gave up. So the fish stayed there till too dark to see.
Earlier, Jessica V. posted a link to a write up on Ospreys by the Raptor Resource Project. It was pretty good, but they’re mistaken about post-fledging behavior. As this is the phase the Zone young are heading into, I thought it would be good to provide a brief review of what we know about the early fledging period–most of which happens frustratingly off cam. Young separate from the parents shortly after fledging and only interact with the parents around the nest getting food. Young Ospreys will start hunting on their own much sooner than the Raptor Resource Project reports. (They say 4-8 weeks.) A week to 10 days for first hunting is what is typically observed and has been reported in the scientific literature. The best info on this comes from a study done by T Edwards down in Florida in the mid 80s. Young do not follow their parents and learn from them (I see this a lot and don’t know where it comes from.) They will often stay with their nest mates as they explore the world. Young Ospreys that fished with a sib learned to hunt a bit sooner than singletons, but eventually the singletons were as good as the young that fished near each other in the early post-fledging period. First prey capture attempts in the Florida study was 5 days, first successful capture was 11 days (this in a study of 22 color banded young). All young in the study had captured fish by 20 days post fledging. One of our Martha’s Vineyard young–an overachiever–caught a fish 7 days after fledging this year.
Thank you so much Dr. Rob for taking time to post this enlightening information!
Rob, this is great information — thank you!!
Thanks for the clarification (I guess.) Bob Anderson was a reknoned expert on raptors. I know he specialized in peregrine falcons, but perhaps the ospreys exhibit different behaviors in different parts of the country? Anyway, thanks for your response!
8-2-16 Reply- Rob I am a little surprised by the statement you made on – Young Ospreys will start hunting on their own much sooner than the Raptor Resource Project reports. (They say 4-8 weeks.) A week to 10 days for first hunting is what is typically observed and has been reported in the scientific literature
The best info on this comes from a study done by T Edwards down in Florida in the mid 80s. Young do not follow their parents and learn from them (I see this a lot and don’t know where it comes from.) They will often stay with their nest mates as they explore the world. Young Ospreys that fished with a sib learned to hunt a bit sooner than singletons,
Almost all the websites and live cams info states the young learn to fish from they male dad osprey so this is why it seems to be so misunderstood.
Living in Florida and having so many ospreys around I can say I see a lot of the juv. osprey looking for fish together at the same time but never thought it could be siblings always thought they came from different families. Since the internet and info out there always said the dad- male osprey would teach the the fledgling to fish.
Very INTERESTING TO KNOW THE FACTS ON THIS SUBJECT.
Thank you so much for once again teaching us all something new and giving facts that have been documented and defiantly let us know that even if you read something you should dive in deeper and research it to make sure it is a documented fact not just someone writing a belief.
On a lighter note glad that 2 babies are ok at Hog Island, still sad that Rachel and Steve couldn’t protect the other one. I know they are good providers to their young. Those darn eagles have to eat too but they dont need to eat something that big. ha
Arent they concerned the eagle knows there is a food source now and probably will be back? Last year the campers just left when the eagle attacked but they were lil babies are the campers gone?
Hi All,
I’m guessing everyone is on vacation or something because there doesn’t seem to be very many comments lately! I really rely on the comments of others to catch a lot of things that I miss.
Thank you to whomever is trying to wash the lens. I’m pretty sure there is a fish scale stuck to the lens. I actually think there’s 2 because at times you can see there is another blurry spot towards the bottom. It only shows up when the light is just right and it looks like the nice round one that is front and center all the time.
Have a great day!
There were a couple of typos in my post about the eagle attack at Hog Island. It was Bierre who escaped and Spirit was taken.
Rob, Is Bierre named after you? I just noticed the name similarities. I am so sorry for the loss of Spirit – was she the oldest of the three?
Is there any update on Gracies talon predicament? After her takeoff with all attached there has been no comment. A concerned watcher here in Pawleys Island
Sheila,
Happy to say Gracie came in at 10:09 minus the trash on her foot.
Thankfully!
At 10:30 am I saw Gracie fly from the nest with something on her floot.It seemed to be abut 4inches long…
She flew in and out after 10:00 and looked fine
3:20 pm Eastern -Saw Gracie in nest around 11:30. She seems to have untangled herself from the hanging debris.
Intruder at nest.. A going after him after attack…all started around 7:28
That was our baby chasing an intruder. Good job !
8-2-16 reply- Kathy B I agree so happy to see them growing up!
8-2-16 Reply- Good picture of Bb1 chasing off intruder glad you got this shot since I missed it.
The other day on this cam or the Hog Island nest I commented that this was the nest with all the drama. All seemed well on Hog Island. Well, yesterday, as many of you probably know already, tragedy hit at an adult Bald Eagle attacked the nest and took one of the young (Spirit) out of the nest. Bierre leapt out of the nest as the eagle approached. The eagle tried to grab Bierre, but missed. It kept coming and snatched Bierre. Eric, the remaining young is in the nest this morning being fed. Now that cam is in the same situation the Zone cam was in when the first youngster fledged and we waited 3 days for it to come back. The difference in Hog Island is that the fledging wasn’t voluntary. Let’s hope Bierre made a good landing somewhere across the cove.
I looked up the video after reading this. What a shame, and I am sorry for the viewers’ loss! I really didn’t know that Bald Eagles would take them that large. I hope that the second baby comes back no worse for wear, and that the eagle(s) stay away! Such a horrible occurrence, even if it is nature. Poor babies.
I saw that this morning, how awful. I watch that nest also, not as much as this one. I read this morning that they do have a search party out for bird that fledged. I haven’t really seen any of those young fly on their own, so I don’t think he was ready. I hope they find him. They also said that the father came back to the nest with 1/2 fish, they are hoping he was feeding the bird that flew.
HI Bob, by now you must have heard the news about little B being found. I posted the news from the Hog Island site for all to read. I am so happy!!!
Rob,
Very sad. I feel for the parents and loss. It’s hard on me as I watch both species. I love my Eagle cams especially Harriet and M15 from SWFEC, but then, I turn to my osprey cams as well. I mostly watch this one but keep tabs on the others. It’s the circle of life, but still sad. I’m hoping they find the other chick safe and not hurt. It looked like it did fly on it’s own off the nest and wasn’t knocked over so hoping it is safe and will return.
That brought straight to tears – the babies are such easy targets – how awful! Knowing what happens on these cams truly is bittersweet.
Well, at least I can tell them apart by their voices now! Unfortunately it’s only because #1 seems to have lost his voice! 🙁 All three o the nest this morning. 2 gets the first partial fish so far. The other two are still calling for their breakfast. Mom and Dad are both on the hunt in the rain.
Looks like mom has had plastic and twigs wrapped around her foot all morning. I saw her fly in and out with it all tangled and dangling from her. Oh no not good at all!! 🙁
Karen H: And it was gone when she flew away at 7:27:43, more than an hour before your post!!
Soooo good to hear thanks!!