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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
Chick #3’s sunlit wing.
I scrolled back from 5:30 to 9:30pm and all the babies were in the nest from time to time. 2 back now for bedtime. I believe Uno and Trey. Not sure about 3 fledging?
Reading all of your comments and some rather classic photos- you guys are really cracking me up tonight!
I think #3 is doing her best Sandy routine… you know, “Why fly? I can stay in the nest all winter. I’m sure Tommy will hook up heat and a mechanical fish delivery system for me!”
8-6-16 reply- GinaM I completely agree Baby3 is just like Sandy except Sandy did fledged but decide she didn’t like the trees and the cozy nest was more her style. She had her own way of thinking maybe its a Female thing? Maybe this is why Bb3 is so much like Sandy and Gracie so of course Bb3 wants to sleep laying down stretched out warm and cozy. And if you notice Bb1 hangs out with Bb3 alot and I think she is a female like Bb3. Bb2 is like a George and a Ronnie as far as his behavior. He to is more a loner. He also started sleeping in the nest standing up not laying down like bb1 does before they fledged. It appears females like the laying down when they can males are good perched.
Forecast- currently 73, which is about where it’s supposed to stay all night.Clear till after 3 a.m., when it becomes overcast.Saturday temps-low 80s-chance of showers/t-storms 40-60% mid-late afternoon.Then back to mid 60s tomorrow night.
Looks like Trey having company tonight…makes me feel better- sentimental sap that I apparently am- and proud of it!
7:10pm- George brought in a fish, which Gracie took. He was back about 7:30pm; on the right side and couldn’t see what was happening. The video is so jerky, it’s difficult to watch.
I think it’s safe to say everyone has eaten.
I love this picture!! It was chick #3 this evening when he was flapping and lifting off the nest. S/he’s parallel to the nest!! I didn’t even have to do anything to get this picture … the video stream froze him/her this way!! 😀
Sequence of that hover.
Now THAT’S something I would like to know how to do! Great
PAUL or AIDAN: The video stream has been very jumpy all day today. This is video of the time stamp in the corner of the video. Backwards!! Holding a second for seconds!! Skipping time!! Makes you seasick!!
Forgot my URL!!
https://youtu.be/dsq-GAo9Wuc
Around 6:45pm…the stream is so jerky, it’s hard to see what is happening, but Uno and Dos have been working on something off to the right for a while. Gracie has been across the nest, watching, while Trey complains to her. Gracie goes over, wades in, backs out, has a few bites; then turns over a good size tail chunk to Trey.
Trey really has pretty markings- different………….
Now 6:35 PM I installed Windows 10 few days ago. Don’t use Edge. I had been using Chrome rather than IE because I have found it to be more stable. Following complaints posted today, I just scrolled back, and I found that Chrome has been fine. In checking IE, I got the video stream OK, but found that around 6:15, the video cracked up, fractured, or whatever. Toggling back and forth, Chrome still OK. I have Optimum, based in Woodbury.
I have a major problem with getting video on my IPad using Safari, and more of a problem using Chrome. Might help if I updated OS. Been too busy, but more time now.
JeanneD: I use Windows 10 and have Optimum as my ISP. I’m curious though if you had a chance to watch OZ this morning (6;30-ish am up to 8:55 am, which is where I’m up to now 😀 ) and if you did how was the video?
Yes my video is freezing up along with audio time lag also. Betsy you are not alone with problem and this is 6:30 pm Fri nite.
DarDar: I’m sorry you are also having the problem … apparently it’s just a handful of us who have the problem!! The rest of the viewers must, obviously, have perfect video streaming!!
5:19pm- George brought large whole fish, which was given to Uno. Dos was bugging her, then Gracie came in, with an eye on the fish. Uno couldn’t get comfortable where she was, so she did a short carry…first time I’ve seen that with such a big piece.
June C: How’s this for chick #2’s picture?? 😀
Leesa I need a caption!! 😀
Looks like me when I get up in the morning! keeper..
Never tell a new hairstylist to try something new! Surprise me!
june c and CarolV: 😀
Hello
Is this camera located in East Marion?
yes
About 4:45pm..soooooooclose…Trey looked like she was holding on to things just to keep from going! Dos was rooting her !
UP……….
Hold on……….Is that what this is for?
You’re getting it!!!!!!
AANNNDDDDDDDDDD…………………..n o
3:19pm…Fish in. Everyone was rallied around for a share…
8-5-16
Gracie chases off intruder fly’s right at he rand Gracie kicks at intrud then gives a good chase, good going mommy way to protect your Bb3 and nest!
Looks to me like Trey fledged at 3:15 with a very quick little flight and then back to the nest. Am I right?
Yes I saw that too. Mom turned head and watched him fly around. Then he landed back in nest.
MARLENE: yes, there are eagles on LI. but not many…yet…I have seen 2 myself, on different days, while crossing the Peconic River farther west than this nest.
MEG: The fledglings will be named, if the same as last year, when the last chick starts to really fly. If you pan to the top of the page, click on NAME THE BABIES if you want to make any suggestions. Think you can still put in your choices.
BTW: To those who poo-poo animal “feelings”. Do you people have pets? Maybe they don’t exhibit our reactions and emotions, but you will NEVER convince me there isn’t some relationship between mates, parent-child. sibs.that equate to feelings. Didn’t the parents of Bierre follow to keep him company on Hog Island? Didn’t the female at the CCcam react with “heartbreak” when her chick was taken by an owl? Don’t we see these chicks cuddle up sometimes for more than warmth? Granted, nature is more practical and makes the inevitable parting a matter-of-fact situation. without prolonged “good-byes” And as it’s called “survival of the fittest” survival can’t afford sentiment or even concern. . And like people, different animals, even of the same species, may have different outward shows of emotions. Some people suffer little when parted from loved ones; others truly die of loneliness.
So don’t attempt to convince us “bleeding hearts” that we are watching automatons; if there is interaction between living creatures, there is feeling.
Amen CarolV, couldn’t have said it better myself. Love reading your posts. Thank you!
CarolV, wishing your doggy a speedy recovery. That happened to my granddoggy (black lab), but she had surgery and did really well. I’m sure yours will do just as well.
Thanks for your concern, but it’s Rjoneal with the injured pup-
My big hunk of puppy love is crushing my feet cause someone near-by shooting firecrackers.
Thanks for heads up on intruder Kathleen & Betsy. Was able to watch it….Our Gracie is some Mom..
This is what I saw. I don’t know if it was a true fledge or just a long hover.
https://youtu.be/qVeoFghjP9c
I think 3 just fledge and the stream was not good very sad that I miss the special moment
Dally – I don’t think so. #3 is all the way on the right hand side of the camera. Hard to see him but at times you can see a little bit of his tail feathers. 🙂
You’re right! He got caught in the wind and went for it. Was only gone 10 or 15 seconds but I consider it fledging.
I had to watch the video 5 times to get a halfway decent viewing.
Thanks for catching it. I never would have seen it without your input.
For everyone else it was actually approx. 13:14 when it happened.
sorry got the wrong time it’s 15:14. Military time messes me up every time, sorry.
Probably hiding on the right side..been doing that all day, giving us heart attacks.
Hasn’t fledged that I know of.
I was watching and saw #3 take off from rt side and fly in on left too! So glad he/she didn’t stay away long..if u blinked ,u missed it!
The sparrows in my awning nest are cheeping and chirping. Must be last batch for the season. I’ve noticed birds are starting to flock, meaning, I guess, they are done with their nests and teaching the young survival skills. I’ve always loved seeing the fledglings begging from their parents, even tho they are as big as the parent. The yard was covered by starlings the other morning………………..first faint glimmer of summer running down…………….
Is anyone else having problems with the video stream?? Or, am I the only one with the worst freezing and jumping??
And getting screens that look like this?
Hi betsyi have had no video most of the day ..plus I still don’t..I sure hope I did not miss bb#3, do his or her thing..trying very hard for a few days now..I sure hope it comes back on so I can see something….
Gracie added greenery to the nest? JK- haven’t see that one, but yes to the other two. And jumping, freezing, twitching and skipping…add bashful and dopey and we’d need to find Snow White………….
Hi Betsy,
My video has been stopping all day. I even switched to google chrome and the same thing. It has to be on Osprey Zones end!
I sure hope Littlebit doesn’t decide to take off today because I just know we’ll miss it!
Having problems. I swear it’s the cable provider. At least it’s back on………..glass 1/2 full outlook
Paula and CarolV: It’s not the Cable provider because it’s not happening on other webcams and when you replay the video it happens in the same spots. The video stream has been getting progressively choppy over the past few days but if you open your mouth you’re labeled a complainer!! And, I think we did miss the fledge!!
Betsy – I’m having that problem as I type this. I just logged on so hopefully it’ll get better.
Hi I am not getting video at all for the last few hrs ..I just hope that bb#3 has not not done his- or her jumping off yet.
All alone am I
Since you two can fly….
All alone with just the beat of my heart………
Bugs all around
But I don’t hear a sound
‘Cept the lonely beating of my wings……………………….
8-5-16 Reply- CaolV well nestorations going to have to place on hold my Samoyed landed wrong being a puppy at 77 lbs and broke ACL and needs surgery.
Positive side and good news is I will be at home with pup recovering so I will get to watch my Osprey Family.
OOOHHHHH…so sorry about your baby…. Always hard keeping them quiet after surgery…good luck
Give your ‘baby’ a big hug from me!
rjoneal: Give puppy lots of treats, kisses, behind the ear scratches, and belly rubs!!
rjoneal: Sorry to hear about your furry family member, I hope for the best of outcomes and a speedy recovery. Know your tummy is in knots. Best Wishes.
Hey Momma Gracie–I think your ( our) baby needs a gentle shove to get our girl ‘going’ with the program. How ’bout it Mom??
Thanks so much for the lens cleaning!
And of course all the action is in right corner!
Just keep practicing…………………………..
1:14pm…..sibs stop in for a pep talk
Trey is the upper right tail TIP
And more practice….uuummmpppphhhHHHHHHH !!!!!!
Gracie chased off an intruder at 11:31 am.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/08/04/fishermen-save-osprey/
Hopefully, this will take you to the story for an osprey rescue in East Hampton
Great Story! Thanks for sharing
11:47am- Thank you, George…now get the &*%# out! —Gracie being gracie-ous..Shared with Trey..
Paul or Aidan: Tommy did his magic on the camera lens; would you do your magic on the video stream? It’s been getting progressively choppy and jumpy again. Thank you. 🙂
11:31:26 – Gracie intercepting an intruder?? It looked to me that she was protecting Lil Bit. Amazing.
11:16am- while the stream is on pause, I can still hear osprey, but they sound like a parakeet! Too funny!
10:10am- A lively porgy for cheering Dos..Gracie came in a few minutes later and joined him on right.
Is that Grampa’s boat coming in?
Sorry…posted by mistake…oopsie……………………..
8-5-16 Bb3 always disappearing !
Love that little head!
Thank you thank you thank you Magic Lens Cleaner.
It’s good to know my persuasive powers are intact!
Thanks again.
Betsy, you are hysterical. Too funny. Thanks for a good laugh for the day!
LynD: The blurred face picture? I just couldn’t resist!! Chick #2 was standing in the perfect spot and chick #3’s Crazy Glue poop residual was in the perfect spot!! 😀
I have not seen Trey practicing her flying in the nest very much lately. I am hoping she is and I just happen to miss it when I tune in or scroll back. She seems to enjoy sitting in the nest enjoying the view and having mommy feed her. Come on, little Trey. As much as I would miss seeing your sweet self in the nest all the time, you need to learn and practice these life skills of flying and hunting to survive well into the future. Fall is coming soon. As I said, I hope she is on schedule and I just happen to miss her practice sessions. Love this little bird and the whole family too.
Trey did Some practicing…I love the effects from the videostream hesitation….
and……………
“Teehee…Is this a big enough BOO to scare that fish away from Uno?”
I can only see Dracula in this pose!
😀 😀 😀 I can’t even type I’m laughing too hard!! 😀 😀 😀
But we’re not going to be laughing (well, I’m not going to be laughing!!) if chick #3 fledges in a Criss Angel moment, which may or may not have happened!!
8:15am……..Uno came home for this….
Trey’s turn…………
Why leave home??????
Thank you. Tommy! Very thorough!
Thank you for the clean lands.
I really don’t like autocorrect…it was supposed to be, Thank you for the clean lens.
Either way it works for me…and I turn off auto correct cause I hate it too!
OspreyZone: Thank you for the lens washing!!
And away goes trouble down the drain!!
Washo-rooter…
good one!
But someone ate paste cause that one spot has resisted how many cleanings? Analyze THAT and patent the formula; must have some application!
Betsy, the way you did this shot can u do one of our 3 babies in a row?
Send them to me!! I’d be happy to!! 🙂
Pre- and post- glitch..got scared we missed something..was only a short span in my timeline…
Note times…chick switch
Cris Angel strikes again!
So did I, and I was watching. When the feed came back on and I didn’t see Trey I thought he pulled the wool over our eyes.
8-5-16 WOW MAGIC WINDOW CLEANER- Tommys invention determined to get that one spot in the middle cleaned once and for all. Machine runs about 4-5 minutes,excellent job, what a beautiful site!
THANK -YOU for all who made it possible and thanks to all who give us this site.
Paul,Aidan,Tommy, all the behind scene people who work and put up with all of us BIG HUGS,we love our Osprey Family and Followers.
Again Thank You for inventing the cam cleaner….and whoever pushes the on switch!
5:39amEDT…George brought a smallish fish for Trey. Shortly after, Dos made a screaming arrival and pestered Trey out of the fish. Trey let go of the fish and it was heading towards the edge but Dos got it.
Dos with the noisy arrival…”Anyone got a fish?”
At about 6:41 am the camera blanked out. Just before Trey was front and center on the nest. Once the stream came back I no longer saw him. Did he fledge or did he move to the right corner, out f visual range?
Never mind. He’s there.
Deborah: What a beautiful picture of the peregrine falcon.
What a beautiful picture!
Beautiful capture Deborah!
This could be a poster!
We were informed by the witness, whose face has been blurred to protect his/her identity, that it was chick #3 who blasted the camera lens.
Caught in the act!!
Is this a true “photo bomb?” lol
😀
Thanks, Betsy. Another belly laugh. Keep ’em coming!!
Margaret, rjoneal, and CarolV with an L: You’re welcome!!
8-5-16 Reply- Betsy now thats funny and suits your detective keen sense!
Good one!
8-4-16 Gracie has big fish MOUTH WIDE OPEN, SAY AWWW !
Does dentistry in S.A.over the winter..
😀
rjoneal: Poor fish … 🙂
Bre
I’m still crunching the numbers. To be honest trying to fit that Round Peg into a Square Hole. No matter home much Research I do and when my Theory might work Mother Nature throws me a Curve Ball. It had gotten so frustrating that I had to walk away for a little while
But I haven’t abandoned the Project.Im waiting to hear from a Project in the U.K.
Hopefully in a week or so, and I’ll be in touch
Thanks for asking
Mike
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8-5-16 Reply Michael G Martin- We are all here for you dont get discourage you got a great group of viewers to give you their info and point of view if needed. Keep up the good work we are all routing for you on whatever it is you are doing it will be successful.
Love Our Osprey Family and Followers!.
OK…where/what is that light source? Lower left corner. Came on a few minutes ago…..I know that’s the house below, but this looks almost nest height……………………
Looked like another plenty of action afternoon. Fish in and claimed; lots of eating; everyone well fed….@6:16, Gracie brings a good one, which was shared around. So much bounty, I didn’t notice any clashes.
FORECAST..More of the same perfection…cool 60s overnight, clear skies.Tomorrow..Friday”high 70s , sunny, md. humidity…yay..
Just saw on the local news..In East Hampton( about 25-30 miles east of me on the South Fork) an osprey was rescued from entanglement in fishing line..Yay! Rescuers!!! In the care of a local wildlife rehabilitation group
8-5-16 Reply- CarolV Great Job local wildlife rehabilitation group another one saved you are the best. Carol thanks for the info and weather report once again.
rjoneal, glad you appreciated yesterday’s fish count. Unfortunately, I have not tuned in until now. And, thanks for the oldies but goodies pic. June C posted the picture you took on June 8. It’s amazing how fast they grow. They looked like Ernie’s rubber ducky. They were so small (especially #3).
8-5-16 Reply – Marlene Ernie’s rubber ducky now thats funny.
I think George & sometimes Gracie will bring more sticks to the nest for babes talons not sticking in plastic or wet grounding nestage weight pulling them down & give them bounce affect in jumping up to get high enough in the air for windage for flight..and also makes it easier for landing stability, for they will be looking to tree or type perch for flight rest..just an assumption
8-6-16 reply – Bre remember last year we were told also the parents keep building up the nest also to entice the babies to fledged without a nest bowl and the more uncomfortable it is they wont want to lay around. Also for the juv to have sticks to perch on while learning how to eat fish own their own.
rjoneal LOL Yes, these babes are big & smart enough now to move sticks out of the way now if they want to rest where & when they want, although, yet that is the nature of reason.. i;m still thinking the reason for building around the edge/surroundings of the nest is questionable? Daddy’s lil one he wants to protect not sure if s/he ready if slips off
aww so sweet ,<3 is our heart..
OOHHMMM, OOHHMMM
OH MAGIC LENS CLEANER, PLEASE CLEAN LITTLEBIT’S @#%T OF THE LENS!
OOHHMMM, OOHHMMM
I’m using my powers of persuasion!
Is it working?
8-5-16 Reply- Paula you crack me up did you do the hand motions too? Yes it worked !
Delayed but effective…good work………………..
On August 4, 2016, at 6:47 pm, one of our illustrious artists lifted his tail feathers and decorated the camera lens. I think it might be Trey (#3), but am not sure. I want to thank everyone including Tommy and everyone else involved in providing such excellent camera closeups of the family this season and the lens cleaning system.. I feel that we should all be blessed with three healthy chicks, and wonderful parents. I have enjoyed this season by watching the chicks grow. At times I was on pins and needles wondering if#3 would survive, but #3 survived. Now I cannot tell #3 from #1 and #2. I also want to thank our chatters for great comments and video captions. I am going to miss this nest at the end of the season. I hope the camera stays active through the winter like last winter.
It would be so much better this winter with all the added posters, videos and photos to revisit!
8-4-16 reply- CarolV AGREE ?
8-4-16 Reply- Gina I agree thanks for noticing.
Are you going to give us another happy Tear video of the season with your great choice of music to fit ? I still show people the one from last year. I know that it takes a lot time but you touched so many people with that video.
Do osprey parents teach the young to catch fish? I know falcons teach their young to hunt and catch prey.
While some literature says yes…Rob B., our osprey expert, says contemporary observation shows siblings general practice together, but even single fledglings learn quickly on their own.
8-5-16 Reply- Mimsey As our Osprey Specialist just talked about a few days ago NO. It is very misunderstood as I just learned and I have been watching and reading for years but contrary to what the internet and live cam sites have also all the blogs and chat rooms the answer is no. Please take time and scroll back through comments and you can find alot of info on your questions so many people have put alot of info and videos on this site just for that reason to educate. Hope this helps 🙂
Reply- Rob Bierregaard
Earlier, Jessica V. posted a link to a write up on Ospreys by the Raptor Resource Project. It was pretty good, but they’re mistaken about post-fledging behavior. As this is the phase the Zone young are heading into, I thought it would be good to provide a brief review of what we know about the early fledging period–most of which happens frustratingly off cam. Young separate from the parents shortly after fledging and only interact with the parents around the nest getting food. Young Ospreys will start hunting on their own much sooner than the Raptor Resource Project reports. (They say 4-8 weeks.) A week to 10 days for first hunting is what is typically observed and has been reported in the scientific literature. The best info on this comes from a study done by T Edwards down in Florida in the mid 80s. Young do not follow their parents and learn from them (I see this a lot and don’t know where it comes from.) They will often stay with their nest mates as they explore the world. Young Ospreys that fished with a sib learned to hunt a bit sooner than singletons, but eventually the singletons were as good as the young that fished near each other in the early post-fledging period. First prey capture attempts in the Florida study was 5 days, first successful capture was 11 days (this in a study of 22 color banded young). All young in the study had captured fish by 20 days post fledging. One of our Martha’s Vineyard young–an overachiever–caught a fish 7 days after fledging this year.
Don’t get mad I me guys but I feel like climbing up the tower and giving chick #3 a shove to get moving!! 😀 😀 I suppose he’s still in the window for fledging, but … !! Maybe s/he is afraid of heights!! Once, when I was about 12, I decided I wanted to jump off of the 12-foot diving board … I got to the top and partway down to the end of the diving board with no more railing to hold on to and I just froze. The line was growing longer for kids who wanted to jump off the board and after a few minutes one of the lifeguards climbed up to help me but I was just paralyzed with fear!! Finally after about 20 minutes up there with him trying everything to get me to move one way or the other he helped me down to my knees and I crawled back to the ladder and shakily climbed down!! I never ever did go back up to try again!! Heights is not my thing!! About 2 feet up on a step stool is my limit!! 😀 Maybe it’s the same for chick #3!! 😀 😀
OMG! I just said the EXACT same thing about our little one!!
Where’s that lifeguard now when Trey needs him? Oh, wait, he’d be helping her down a ladder!!! No bueno!
You know how all of a sudden you think of something that has nothing to do with what you are presently doing and you burst out laughing? Well, just now, I was watching chick #3 standing on the edge of the nest (9:55 am in video) and I thought of how s/he’s flown a bunch of times today so far and then I thought of that lifeguard … he’s probably in a nursing home now and not much good to anybody!! But, at least we don’t need him now!! 😀
They really need to expand the window to 6 hours!! But, I’d probably still only be watching a few minutes from the end of the window!! 😀
I don’t know if this has been asked, but does anyone know what type of insects are crawling in the nest? I don’t remember seeing anything like that last year. Thanks to all for the beautiful photos. It’s nice to catch up after working all day!
8-5-16 Reply- Susan M yes, it has been talked about several times and last year too.
Mostly bees,yellow jackets,wasp,ants,
There’s gnats, bees, ants, beetles to name a few….our lens was rarely clear enough for such detail last year! Thank Tommy for another eye-opener!
And I think I’ve seen centipedes!!
8-6-16 reply Betsy eeeehhhhh!
It came out really big!! I’m glad they’re not that size for real!!
5:00 pm Eastern – OK did anyone else see BB3 grab that wiggly fish right out from under the Biggie around 4:20? The Biggie tried to take it away from BB3 but that little devil said “No way. Go get your own.” So the Biggie took another fish from the other Biggie. (Sorry I’m using generic “Biggie” because I can’t tell them apart.) BB3 wouldn’t even let Gracie have it when she came by. So proud of that little bird.
I don’t think there is enough of a breeze today for a first flight for #3.
with two fish being served at 16:40 why would anyone leave home?
And is it just me or does #3 preen a lot!?
I just LOVED the fact that our LilBit is exercising her tenacity and true grit in taking charge of the second fish from Uno. She might not have fledged yet, but she will, if given
enough time to get the proper nutrition for strength, agility, and stamina. She’s got more than a whole month to get her skills down pat, before flying tickets are booked to South
America. Our LilBit is preening a lot, because her feathers haven’t yet fully matured, like the others, and being that she hasn’t yet left the nest, we are seeing her WHOLE day. The other kids are off and about doing……perhaps sitting on a branch also preening. Who knows>?
From all I’ve seen over the past few years with the advantage of bird cams I have reached three conclusions (well, I’ll only mention three today) which obviously may be right or wrong. 1: Osprey chicks don’t give a darn about each other, don’t kiss. don’t voluntarily share, and couldn’t care less if their siblings fell from the nest and were obliterated. Nothing I have seen contradicts my position on this. They are out for themselves which, if you think about it, is the way it should be. 2: Chicks born late are at a terrible disadvantage as we can easily see by watching the harassment and struggles of chick #3. Hopefully he or she will finally get going out of the nest and do OK but he certainly has had a tough row to hoe. 3: If you are an osprey, falcon or almost any other predator bird, try to steer clear of eagles as they will mess you up if they can. They eat almost anything fresh and are big enough to get away with it. That’s why they are our national bird appearing on our money. Funny, but the only birds I’ve seen chase off big raptors are large flocks of aggressive smaller birds. Hope I didn’t make anyone mad at me and as always admit and accept the caveat that I may not know what I’m talking about.
Bob –
Well, I agree with you on #1. These biggies will take the fish away from George or Gracie and eat it themselves. As I stated yesterday in one of my comments, they definitely do NOT share.
Oh, and agree with you on #2 – poor little guy. I’m so glad he made it. Now hopefully he’ll fledge soon and get some flying hours in preparation for his solo flight later on in the summer.
I’ve only watched this one live camera since last year and am not an expert. Just happy that I’m able to enjoy this adorable family. 🙂
Thanks for your response. Perhaps next season you’ll get a chance to watch some eagles and/or falcons and learn some things about them. Obviously all these bird cams give us a special opportunity to observe things we otherwise would never get to see. Sometimes you get saddened as when my whole nest of barn owlets were wiped out by starvation earlier this year. It is nature and so it is not always kind. I guess we need to remember that so very many people don’t have it so good either. Too depressing! Back to the birds.
Bob,
I LOVE my eagle cams…especially SWFEC (Southwest Florida Eagle cam). I know it is hard, because they do eat whatever they can get their hands on, but they are so majestic and I love watching the family in FL. It is hard when I watch my Osprey families and then hear of an eagle attack like the recent one on Hog Island. I love both species. It’s the circle of life and sometimes very hard watching these cams. We tend to humanize them with our emotions. Everyone has rallied around E8, the eaglet at CROW and he has gained worldwide fame because of that cam and his owl attack. He is the baby in that nest and like here, we root for the underdog.
I agree with you about the chicks and that it’s all about survival. It’s the same as the eagles but I felt as the birds got older and fledged, they were a bit closer, perching together and learning. Maybe it’s me humanizing again………I’m just praying for them all to do well.
Well said and I totally agree. I, too, have watched the same eagles as you (Southwest in FL). I am also lucky enough to have an eagle nest near my home which is fun but as everyone knows these cams give us a chance to see things we could never observe from the ground. Appreciate your response Kathy B.
Yes. Bob. Although, I sure as Jack would not give up on 3. He is 6 days behind 2 and is doi,g quite well. As for messing with a raptor, I personally would not mess with any of them. Those talons and beaks could sure do damage. 🙂
You’re spot on on all three observations!
8-5-16 Reply -Rob aww, really then why do they say beak kiss is a way of bonding with each other will mating? Is this not true?
I believe everything else
Wow, did George just bring in two fish at once?? Dos got one and it looks like Trey got the other one. Anyone sort out why there were two fish at about 16:20 nest time?
I think that the 2nd fish you are seeing is the one George brought in at 15:07. Uno grabbed it, and ate till about 15:42 when Dos took over and enjoyed some of it. When George brought the whole fish in at 16:18 you can see that the first fish is about half eaten. Tray won the battle for the new fish, and it looks like Uno and Dos were both working on the first fish in that right hand corner. At least that is what it looks like to me.
Dorothy: That would have been amazing if he had, but George didn’t bring 2 fish at 16:18. He brought only 1 fish that chick #3 managed to grab first and keep away from chick #1, so chick #1 grabbed the fish that George had brought at 15:07 away from chick #2 that chick #2 had grabbed first and was still eating!!
Trey is having a tough time getting the new fish started. He should have opted for the other one.. haha
Hi All,
At 16:19 George delivers another fish and Littlebit took it from #1. Never ever thought I’d see that!
I am SO PROUD of our Littlebit. George had made a delivery earlier and #2 got it and #1 had been standing around complaining and then for Littlebit to get the next fish is truly remarkable.
Yay!!! Trey wins the battle of the new fresh arrival! However, it will just make him full and lazy again.. oh my. ;/
At 15:45 Trey helicoptered and i thought this was it and my heart skipped a beat with excitement.. not that i wish for him to leave but it is time so he can keep coming back for awhile!
Aug. 4 1:53PM
Older sibling: “So, what do you say, Trey? Beautiful day to fledge!! So sunny, such blue skies!! I can go first, if you wish; you can follow me!!!”
Trey thinks:”Well, i am enjoying the nest SO much, love stretching my wings, but you probably are right, Time to fledge. Only thing, do you think anyone is watching?? I don’t want to look goofy!!”
Trey everytime I check in you are staring out at the water, eating or being lazy and laying down… Get up son and wingercise and fly fly fly!