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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
Congratulations to Jane and George and to all of us Ospreyzone fans. SMCF– thanks for the video. I was watching on and off , so I was able to scroll back. I waited to respond until today. When Jane first looked at the chick, I was worried because she looked like she didn’t know what to do. That is every new mom’s feeling at the beginning. I hope George will be able to help her get it right. From the evening comments it sounds like she got it. We shall see how the feedings go today. They are always crazy until the chick can hold up their head or the parent doesn’t try to put too much food in the baby’s mouth. It can be comical. This little chick was born on the hottest day of the year on LI.
Paula — sorry to hear about your toe!!! I can see that happening when eggscited.
Lots of action while I was typing— from around 5:10am to 5:20 . The baby had his head up for food. It looks like Jane caught a fish quickly. I will let the experts show pictures and explain. These are the times in case you are still sleeping. LOL
“Forgive my appearance. With a brand-new baby, and two on the way, I didn’t have time to do my feathers.”
Haaaaaaaa !!
Jane deserves a spa day!
About 21:27 I was debating checking time for moonrise to see if I’d stay up….. “Blue screen… you left me watching alone… without a thought in my head…. so I just might as well be prone..”
Night, everyone…
Congratulations to the new mom and dad. Welcome little dumpling..
George brought back a piece of fish.
Jane tore in to it and downed the tail.
Looked like George might be angling toward nest cup, but Jane cut him off at the pass.
Jane had a hard time getting settled because she now had 2 eggies, Squirmy and a big piece of eggshell that had gotten kicked in to the egg cup. But it’s good to see she is definitely making sure Squirmy is under wraps!
OH! George gave us a front row view of beak cleaning………
Awwwww ♥♥
After Jane was introduced to the little one, she did not want to leave the nest. First time I see her “demending” a fish from George, George immediately complied and brought a porgy. She even ate it in the nest, with such speed…. then put the left over near the new born and continued sitting on the eggs/baby AND the fish. George later removed the fish from the nest. This new born surely brought a lot of sudden changes in Jane. I think that is called being a mom. She is very dedicated.
Meli…when Jane put the fish by the nest cup,thought she was going to try feeding the baby! This has been so great to see. Maybe Jane’s reaction is excitement! She seems dedicated so far. Can’t wait for tomorrow!
I thought she wanted to save it for the baby for later 🙂 I am nervous for tomorrow., for baby’s feeding time. Jane seems reluctant to letting George with the eggs and the baby… 🙂 I hope he has a chance to show her how to feed the baby, in case she doesn’t know how…. I am sure she will figure it out…. excited for tomorrow and for more hatching…
Welcome to the world, Little One! Jane’s reaction was priceless. “WHAT THE HECK IS THAT????!”
George delivering a whopper @ 7:35, Jane giving him the rundown, just love this nest so much !!!!!!!!
George brings in a nice whole fish and Jane chooses to stay on the nest to eat!
George almost had the whole fish in the nest cup!
Now Jane has the fish by the nest cup….. do you think her brain is putting things together?
When Squirmy starts some little flailing, Jane drops the fish to cover him……….
George comes in…. he sees the fish…
He steps on the logjam and has a good scratch……….
He jumped to the perch for a few minutes….
And… he’s back for the fish.
Jane says ” I was saving that….”
George says” I can hold on to it for you…” and off he goes..
Jane made a point of including Squirmy, trying several positions to get him in the right spot. I wonder if George will show her how to feed him or if she will know?
Squirmy…funny
wow..watching nature…at an opportune moment
Jane’s reaction was just …no words…priceless
totally stunned and confused
It’l be an adventure for all of us watch as she moves forward in her mothering skills!!????
I’m enjoying it already! Fascinating to watch as things click in place for her! And George is a patient teacher…….
Utterly fascinating to watch ! I’m so excited to see Jane learn the ropes.
When George left the nest to go get another fish for Jane, seeing how she dropped the first one overboard!, I noticed a bunch of black bugs on the left side of the nest right under where George was standing prior to leaving. I tried to get a picture, but I couldn’t capture a shot of them. It was right around 7:30 when I noticed them. Does anyone know what these are? And will they go away? I hate them being so close to the new baby.
This season there has been an unusually high number of black flies and knats on nests across the country…I believe this is what we’re seeing.
all those bugs are creepy to us but part of life in the nest. Many are beneficial to remove waste products and leftover fish which will collect as things move along.
Thanks Admin Shelli and Carol, that all makes very good sense!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!! The baby definitely scared Jane! Worried me there for a minute, but her reaction was priceless. Now I think she’s trying to put it back in the egg!!!
When Jane picked up the egg shell half and kinda tossed it over towards the baby, well, I had to laugh. Poor Jane 🙂 I don’t think it’s going back in.
Think the heat got to her, she thinks she’s hallucinating! Lol! “George, where did this come from?”
18:53:53…Jane meets her little one….I hope all can go back and watch..she was totally startled by the chick
Jane can’t take her eyes off the new addition..
Every time it moves, Jane lifts her wings!
And as she started to approach, the chick did a big flop and Jane nearly went backwards out of the nest!
She gains courage to approach and takes a nip or two, to test what she sees……….
She made it plain that she needed to get on the eggies, but that squirmy thing was in the way. She tried a couple of approaches and took more pokes at that thing; then decided if she was getting on the eggies, Squirmy was part of the deal……………
That was hilarious!! So glad she settled on down though. George will teach her everything she needs to know! And if she catches on with this part as quickly as she has with everything else, she will do fine!
Later, when George brought a fish, Jane took it toward the nest cup, as if something was telling her Squirmy was gonna need some…… Can’t wait to see if George shows how to feed or if she figures it out! So much fun watching her learn…..
No disrespect to our Gracie….
Jane was looking at the chick … “What the hell is that THING!!” … It moved and she took the biggest flying leap backward!! 😀 😀
HAPPY BIRTHDAY…and George on egg…..how wonderful this is..
Thanks for the video.
Hey Trinity – You are very welcome and thank you for thanks! I got lucky yesterday, came to check on the fam here and was like, WAIT! Is that a baby?!?!? And I got goose bumps!! =D
Well for heavens sake! Was watching all day and of course, walked away, to come back to the great news! Eggcellent!
Hey Carol,
Isn’t that the way it always happens? I was trying to watch the computer and do a few chores and ended up breaking a toe because I wasn’t paying attention and whacked it on a footstool. But , I didn’t miss it and I managed to finish the chores I was trying to get done. At least now I have a good excuse for watching for the next hatching!
Paula…. maybe we should name #1 Toe in honor of you! Ouch!
Very Funny Carol! I’m hoping we stay with the Jetsons theme and name this chick ” Judy “.
CarolV…doesn’t that always happen! I know you were here, I said hi! Isabella
I said hi to you! Lol! not to myself!
I know, Isabella…. we’re all eggcited!!! Way past my bedtime but I’ll be back to work tomorrow…. I’m off on the 4th so if schedule goes according to plan, maybe I’ll catch #2
YEAH!!!!! Welcome to the North Fork little one!!! And congratulations George and Jane!!! (Whew!)
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OK We have one chick How long before next hatching? It seems to me that Jane laid the eggs really close together!
I was also right that Gorgeous George was there for the hatching but I was quite surprised that Jane had been on the nest all afternoon and she was there when hatching started. I hope she will take directions from George on how to take care of the chicks because I don’t think you could find a better Osprey mate or father than George.
I will be surprised if Jane doesn’t do well with the chicks. She was on that Hot,Hot nest a long time. She deserved and probably needed that dip in the bay!
Usually the eggs will hatch 3 days apart, but occasionally they’ll hatch sooner – I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I’m expecting the second egg to hatch on the 4th of July! 😍
Hopefully the fireworks will be at a respectful distance again this year!
I sure hope so too Carol
Welcome to the world wee on!
Perfectly captured 😀
Hi Shelli…can u tell if this one was the first egg she laid by color?
Unfortunately I can’t, sorry June…but I guess in six days we will know for sure if number one hatched or not.
Thanks…
New baby and a fly by by Mom!
Welcome to OZ little one! Stay cool!
Think should name he/she, July or Heat wave.
As a mythology buff, I’d lean towards Apollo ; the Greek god of Sun & Light 😀
Good one Trinity!
WE HAVE A HATCH!! 💕
♥ A NEW BABY IS HERE!!!!! WOOOT!!! CONGRATS TO GEORGE AND JANE, TO OZ AND ALL WE WHO LOVE THESE OSPREY! ♥
Awwww. Happy Birthday, Little one 🙂
5:30 Hatch!! Yippeee!!
ALMOST THERE!!!! Wee hee!!!
“I’m here!!!!”
“See all of me!!”
Thx for the pics Betsy! Knew you wouldn’t disappoint!
George flew in to the perch. Jane flew off for a dip in the bay! Flies are all over the eggs
Now George is minding the eggs. They seem to be as eggcited as we are!
Jane on perch. George on nest. Chick is coming!
We have a confirmed pip! We will probably have a hatch today
Chick..Chick…Chick… Hooray!!!
Oops, one too many chicks
Chick…Chick…HOORAY!!
Ok…So this is my question…will an osprey still sit on non viable eggs? Googled it and got answers for other birds. The only thing that was close to an answer was that if the egg/eggs smell they get rid of them. Hopefully this means these eggs are okay!!
Yes, Osprey will continue to incubate eggs past the non viable mark – but we definitely have at least one viable egg as I just saw movement inside the egg.
Did anybody see that? At 16:28 you can clearly see a huge crack in an egg and if you look closely enough you can see movement inside the egg. We have viable eggs everyone.
Thought I was seeing things! Think we are getting a chick!!
Paula… yes, I was looking at that, then Jane rolled the egg and I couldn’t see that good
Then she stuck her tail feathers in the camera, blocking the view!
Paula… thx for posting the time! Even though I saw it live, I went back twice to watch
Waterskiing……….. jealous……. couldn’t do it, but always wanted to……..
Oddly enough, the South Fork, by me, is slightly warmer than the North Fork. We usually have the benefit of the cooler ocean. Guess the winds in the wrong direction! We already hit 92 and it’s due to start dropping. By the nest, it’s supposed to be about 89. with another degree or two up before it starts going down after 4.
Jane is doing well, with the occasional walk around. Supposed to be the hottest day for the week.
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OK…. my tongue is starting to ache in sympathy with Jane having to hold it like that!
I don’t think George has been in all afternoon. Maybe I missed him?
My app shows 93 in OZland until about 6pm. We’re cooling down slowly, so wind must be starting to come off the ocean.
Jane got up a bit ago and went to the right, so I had hoped George was coming in, possibly carrying a nice, juicy, moist fish. But, no…………
Hi CarolV! Hope you’re staying as cool as possible!!
Take a good look , people!……….. now ya see ‘um…
Now ya don’t! Jane puts a lid on ‘um…
Hey, kayakers! Looks like George is checking them out.
And that looks like someone is under tow going into the inlet.
George “sticks” the landing…………….. {;^))
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Hi all,
Was on the beach in Westhampton where there is an Osprey nest. Their babies have hatched, and they are big enough to stick their heads over the nest !
Couldn’t get close enough to get a picture.
Wonder when ours will hatch.
The two nests I see almost daily have osplets big enough to be seen. I worry about our chicks, if they hatch, in this hot weather. We will just have to see….
Looks a little hazy…….. clouds moving in later.
Bug alert; just left of Bug Light…….. Jane went upstairs for a few minutes……
Lots of boats out already, enjoying the bay
BREAKFISH! Yummy fish over easy…….
George settles in
Happy Sunday, everyone! 82 already, heading towards 90. July announces herself……….
Sorry.. Only 79 ….wouldn’t want to overstate
George is out……… looked up to perch and headed there.
Jane comes in…….
Jane has a quick interaction with a flyby……..
Nobody home, just us eggies
Oh, here they are…… both at once!
Incoming!
George yelling about someone nearby…………
Just back from blue screen
Driving between exit 47 & Gilgo Beach on Ocean Pkwy early this morning, I counted 13 osprey ! It was pure bliss seeing each one 😀
I love watching them, too. Poetry in flight……….
Woke up, thinking I’d check for moonrise.
Found out we had a missing hour episode, with the counter going from 20:59..
next on timer….to 21:59… didn’t get exact seconds,,,,,,,,,,,,,, note the boat coming in to the inlet……
and about 10 minutes later……………
so I guess I can go back to sleep………..
Hi All,
Who want’s to bet that if any of the eggs are viable George is the one sitting on them when they hatch?
That will be a first for me to see a male on eggs when hatching.. I am going with a 70% chance 🐣
I hope it’s Jane…. she needs the experience…. and she squeezed those boulders out!
He’ll make a wonderful midwife !
He is an outstanding spouse! Fascinating to watch – hoping all goes well.
@19:16………Jane’s eyes really glow in this slanting light!
Another pretty sunset… Jane looks like she’s enjoying the view.
Still 81 at 8:30pm….. TDH! no air conditioning. Clear night, dropping to 70 about dawn. And an even hotter day tomorrow….the humidity is gonna go higher, making the predicted 90 feel worse… should be the worse day, cooling down somewhat the rest of the week. Moonrise gonna be too late for me. HAGN everyone!
And see you in JULY!
Dinner is served! And it’s a big, whole one!
Jane got a good grip but her feet were on opposite sides of a stick! Smart girl renegotiated her hold, breaking the stick in the process, so she was able to take off………..
CarolV…Love George…looks like he’s watching Jane’s reaction to his great catch.
CarolV: I thought she was very smart to figure it out!!
A fish called Wanda … oops, wrong video screen!! 😀 😀
Well…that fish will” Wanda” no more.
clever girl, Isabella!
Looks hazy and hot on the water. Here, in Missouri, we’re having a heat wave! Heat index of 110 in shade to 120 in sun. Gotta appreciate the AC when you have temps like these!
Hope everyone has a wonderful and safe holiday with family and friends.
I remember growing up in Greenport, as did my kids, and enjoying the carnival, mass amounts of visitors to the area (city people as we used to call them), and the fireworks from Shelter Island, Greenport and of course the causeway! I miss those days very much!! Enjoy it! You don’t realize just how lucky you are to be in such a magical area!!
Hope George and Jane have a quiet weekend and enjoy fireworks from afar!
Leanne………. quite a difference between here and my idea of Missouri! Are you at least near some lakes? For a few years, I lived in the mountains of Maryland and, pardon the expression, felt like a fish out of water!
Hope you and fam. have a great week…….. no holiday weekend this year! It’s a holiday week!
Not near any real lakes. I live pretty close to St Louis which of course has the river but not my idea of water if ya know what I mean. I always thought I’d be ok living away from the areas of Greenport, East Marion and Orient but believe me when I say, I’d give anything to be back there. I miss “real’ water, the marshlands, just the whole area. Missouri is a lot different and I am NOT a fan. lol Maybe some day I’ll come back but until then I have the nest which gives me a great view of the water. “Real” water 🙂
Leanne….wow That is ridiculous heat! Hope you stay cool ! As much as I wanted a hatch today, it’s too hot. Tomorrow will be worse. They have to come out soon. Just wish wasn’t during a heat wave. Feeling Hot,Hot,Hot, I Hate,Hate,Hate! Ole!
Hopefully they’ll decide to stay in until the heat wave passes? Just joking but I guess they’ll do ok. I’m sure George and Jane will shade them….wish they’d come shade me!!!
Thank God for AC! Stay cool or at least try to!!
Leanne: That’s hot!! But, it ain’t a record there!! 😀 😀 Hottest temperature ever recorded for Missouri: 118° in Warsaw and Union on July 14 in 1954. Wowwee, that’s hot!!
Admin Shelli,
Do you know what causes the feather to fringe or fray at the ends? Does that indicate a tussle? Or is it natural? Just noticed this on a different osprey cam – and I see that Jane has also has some fringed feather ends. Thanks for all the information you’ve been providing – so very interesting.
Robin, the tattered ends are caused by the very long migration, the constant use of the feathers, exposure to the elements etc….this is perfectly natural as they will molt, or loose, those damaged feathers and new ones will grown in.
Kind of like paint…when paint gets old it fades, chips and peels – feathers do the same thing.
Makes sense – thanks Shelli <3
Cool picture of Jane hopping up to perch as the video disintegrated.
Looking a little frazzled!
Picture is cool! Don’t think Jane is! Looks like she’s melting!
CarolV and Isabella: Frazzled and melting probably from the heat!! 😀
Yes.. that’s what I meant…if I dared to look in the mirror ,probably how I look in this heat!
Jane accessorizes prior to chicks arriving — because once they’re here, her accessories will consist of baby squirt!! 😀 😀
Morning “visitor”
Jane shoos it away …
Hey, mockingbird, you better knock off bothering Jane … because if you taste like chicken you might get eaten!! 😀 😀 😀
And if that Mockingbird doesn’t leave Jane alone,she’s going to wack him with her wing
Isabella: 😀 !!
At least that mocking bird 🐦 don’t sing so we get a diamond 💍 ring!
CarolV: I had a really sick, teeny, tiny 10-day old kitten years ago; he had feline distemper. His name was George. Lawn guy named him!! After I showed him the kitten, the lawn guy picked him up, held him up at eye level, and said in this big, booming voice “Hello George.” I used to hold George and cuddle him and sing that song to him for hours at a time. My valiant little warrior fought so hard to survive. I practically lived a the vet’s office. But, alas, he was too tiny and too young and didn’t make it.
The things we don’t quite get over make some of our best memories………. all brought back by a song.
Admin Shelli: Shelli, Shelli, Shelli!! Does this look like a crack??!!
Enlarged
A crack as in a hatching crack!!
Admin Shelli: And, what about this? I think it’s a different egg — I think it may be the whacked egg!!
I’ll take a look 👀
It could be! I wish I could say for certain but it’s just so darn hard to tell 🧐
Gotta get off to work…….
Just had to post this beautiful sunrise……..
George on the ball providing breakfast…..
And Jane on the job… 72 right now with a sunny, humid 85 deg. day ahead.
HHAGD, everyone.
Have a good day CarolV,beautiful sunrise. Too bad it’s being followed by horrible heat and high stupidity! (What my dad calls humidity)
High stupidity out here in the summer are the citiots who don’t know how to drive on country roads! (;^))
Isabella: My late Dad was full of what we call his Daddy-isms!! 😀 I still use them!!
CarolV: That’s very clever!! 😀 😀
Jane jumped up to the perch at 21:16:51 hrs …
then, there was a long stretch of turquoise, after which the stream came back, and someone could be seen in the nest … based on the silhouette, I would say it was Jane …
then another long stretch of turquoise, and when the video stream came back, no one was in the nest. You could make out the eggs …
another long turquoise stretch, and when the video stream came back, Jane was lying on the eggs ..
And, the moon was brilliant!!
Went to watch Jane and the sunset………
And the witching hour hit………. will check back@ 20:59 to see if we’re back
And we’re back, minus the hour, and no one is home. I hear claws on perch.
And here’s Jane…………….
Don’t think I’ll make it to moonrise tonight….. although it’s to hot and sticky, may have a hard time falling asleep.
HAGN.
Jane is very restless. Back upstairs. I think I hear firecrackers………. or something is wrong with audio…….
ok…. maybe it wasn’t fireworks……. and no need to try to stay up for moonrise…………..
Song for the moment….”Am I blue.You would be toooo….when the screen goes blank in front of yooouuuu.”
Okay Carol think the heat is getting to you! Lol
CarolV: I’m picturing the song for the moment — maybe it’s because of the “toooo” and “yooouuuu” — as being sung by Edith Bunker!!!!! 😀 😀
” Those were the dayyyyysssssssssss!”
CarolV: The reason why the video stream goes down every day for 1 hour is that OZ is automatically resetting the streaming software to keep it from crashing every night, as per Admin Shelli (comment > Admin Shelli June 28, 2018 at 6:27 pm).
Yes, Betsy, I read that. But why does it sometimes shut down for an hour? That’s why I said witching hour. Maybe I should call it whiching hour. Which way will it go? Reset and continue or reset and take a break till next reset
CarolV: I’m not really understanding what you mean by reset and continue or reset and take a break till next reset … On the 28th, I made a point to be exactly up to the minute on the video stream (because, you know, I’m usually way far behind!!) — wanted to “catch” the change!! 😀 And, I did!! I watched the spiral spinning for exactly 1 hour … ’cause I had nothing better to do!! 🤪 🤯 🤣. Then, after the spiral spun for 1 hour, it switched back to the video stream and the time stamp showed as 1 hour later from the time when the spiral first started. If you’re not watching for that 1 hour time period, and then start watching the video at a point in time before the spiral started, unaware of it, the video seems to just jump from “x” time to “y” time, an hour difference!! 😀 😀
And that’s exactly what I was talking about! If the video resets every hour, why does it sometimes just keep running along with no interruption in the visual presentation while other times, it stays at the same point for an hour then jumps to the current time when it resets, thereby eliminating one hour of visual video. I think we are talking the same issue while not clearly explaining it.
I’ve posted this issue several times. It doesn’t happen on a regular basis or a regular time. I’m just glad it resets itself and keeps chugging along! The only time it might matter to me is if something really important occurred during that missing hour of visual video.
Isabella… I can always count on you for a quick laugh! Scrolling back—- “Taste like chicken!” Very funny!
But I still say, be nice to the neighbors!
Here’s some more on the eggtooth and hatching – said a bit differently and a few added tidbits:
The eggtooth is an essential component to the hatching process in almost all species of birds. This specialized structure develops for the sole purpose of “pipping” (initial breaking of the shell) and cutting the chick out of the egg.
The egg tooth firsts breaks through the internal shell membrane. This happens at least a few hours before hatching. At this point, the chick starts breathing by using the internal air cell in the egg.
In some species, the chicks all might start chirping at around the same time as a method of communication. This may be an effort to coordinate the timing of hatching in the nest.
In another few hours or more, the egg tooth is used to break the external shell. In parrots, the range of time between internal and external pipping can be from 3 to 72 hours. From this point on, it may take up to 24 hours for the chick to entirely break through the shell and emerge into the world.
The egg tooth is sharp as it needs to break the shell and cut the chick out of this strong, protective, calcified shell. The egg tooth develops from the edge of the material of the top beak or rhinotheca.
The chick first uses the egg tooth to cause a crack in the eggshell. Once this crack has appeared the chick back-stretches the neck and uses the sharp, long edge of the egg tooth to cut through more of the shell.
The breaking of the shell by the egg tooth is aided by the enlarged “pipping muscle” in the neck region. This helps by cushioning the head and bracing the neck to allow the strong movements needed by the body of the chick to push the egg tooth through the shell.
The egg tooth, in most species, falls away or is worn down in the first 2 to 4 weeks of life as the beak material continues to grow and the egg tooth is not replaced.
The process from the internal pipping to breaking through the external shell and emerging into the outside world is gradual in most birds. This allows the physiology of the chick to gradually, without shocking the system, begin to adjust to breathing air and the new found unlimited mobility of its limbs.
Both the respiratory and circulatory systems must adjust to this new atmosphere and success depends on a gradual changeover rather than an abrupt ending of the protected shell environment.
The yolk sac, which will no longer be necessary once the chick escapes the egg, starts to retract and is absorbed by the newly emerged hatchling.
In weaker chicks, this whole process will take longer and there is always the temptation for people to “help” the process along. This is usually a mistake as the respiratory and circulatory systems are not yet developed enough to support the chick in the outside world and the yolk sac might still be largely visible.
More dangerously, the vessels attached to the yolk sac may still be functioning and, if disrupted prematurely, can cause a fatal bleed out.
Here is some great info on what happens inside the egg right before hatch – taken from Nick Fox’s book “Understanding The Bird Of Prey”
About 72 hours before hatching, the egg starts an ordered sequence of events which are critical. The chick must progress from allantoic respiration to lung breathing, retract its yolk sac and hatch. [The allantois is part of the membrane surround the embryo–it is the mechanism of the exchange of oxygen in and carbon dioxide out until the chick’s lungs begin to function just before hatch, and it collects metabolic wastes that are discarded after hatch.]
“At the time when the air cell is beginning the ‘draw down’ the complexis hatching muscle at the nape of the chick’s neck becomes swollen with lymph and twitches spasmodically. The twitching movement extends throughout the whole body of the chick causing it to straighten briefly. These unbending movements press the chick tight against the eggshell and force the beak upwards. On the upper ridge of the beak is the small egg tooth which eventually penetrates the inner shell membrane into the air cell. Once the beak is into the air cell, the chick is able to start breathing air into its lungs although it is still dependent on allantoic gas exchange. With its lungs in operation it is able to cheep and this is a sure sign that breathing has started.
“With continuous rebreathing, the air in the air cell becomes high in carbon dioxide and this stimulates the hatching muscle to further activity. With more faint tapping and pressure from the chick, the shell wall gives way and a slight lifting of a fragment of shell becomes visible. This is called ‘starring.’ This allows a small amount of fresh air into the air space and the chick usually becomes quiet for some hours. [Comment: It is usually quite difficult to see this starring on any of our nest cams unless there is high-quality zooming on the egg and the egg is positioned just right. Usually the first thing we see is an actual hole in the shell.] Working sporadically, the chick then begins to break up an area around the pip and also splits the air cell membrane much further so that, on candling, it can be seen to occupy most of the air cell and is much looser inside the shell. Gradually the chick enlarges an opening and the beak and egg tooth come into view.
“The chick may rest at this point for a further twenty-four hours. During this time the lungs and airsac system are becoming fully functional and gradually take over total responsibility for gas exchange. The blood circulation in the allantois slowly shuts down.
“Once the allantois has shut down, the chick starts to rotate inside the shell. Within about fifteen minutes the chick circles about half to two-thirds around the egg, industriously cutting out the shell as it goes. Soon it is able to push up the cap with its shoulders and kick itself free of the shell, leaving the membranes and excreted uric acid waste behind. The allantoic blood vessels quickly fall away from the navel. By one or two days after hatching the hatching muscle has reduced in size and is no longer swollen with lymph. The total time from pip to hatch in birds of prey varies considerably from about 30-70 hours but is usually complete within 50 hours.”
Admin Shelli; Thank you for all the great information you posted!!
You’re welcome 😊
Admin Shelli: It sounds like a real ordeal … I was exhausted just reading it!! 😀
Betsy…me too! After reading first post,thought “Ok interesting, done.” Then OMG,there’s more!
Great info. Thank
You
Getting ready to watch the Dr. Sasse interview with Dr. B. that Rjoneal posted about yesterday!!
Jane looking very relaxed………. George is on the perch, warning someone off.
Jane left as I was posting…. no one there now.
Temp 83degs. Dropping to about 65 by sunrise. Mostly clear with a few clouds after midnight. Tomorrow, mid 80s and sunny.
This was right before Jane left…….. maybe she thought he was coming in…..
So I was surprised when Jane came back in… George fooled us both!
Leesa Downs: I was just looking again at all the pictures that were posted today when I noticed on your picture “Can I just have one little bite?” a tab open to “how to take a screenshot.” Very enterprising!! 🙂 I’d like, if I may be so bold, to make a suggestion. If you want to get just the picture of the video screen, without the desktop, you can open the video stream to full screen. 🙂
AH!!! Thanks Betsy! I had to read how to do it, as this was my first time to post a picture, so thank you for the added info!!
Leesa Downs: You’re welcome!! I had to search the internet for how-to information, too, before I ever took my first screenshot!! Still use it all the time to find out how-to on things!! 🙂
“Oh this should be fun to watch! ‘Need some help down there dudes?!!!!”
George brought in a very worn looking piece of fish……….
She ate some in the nest; then took the rest right up to the perch.
I guess it’s possible that when both were on the perch earlier, Jane could have given George any leftover fish she might have been holding??? Anybody see anything? That fish looked well used……….
Betsy…. this is about the steps necessary for a chick to go through to hatch. for eagle but I’m sure all the same.
https://www.learner.org/jnorth/tm/eagle/annual/facts_hatching.html
CarolV: Yes, I know. I posted it in the past!! 😀 😀
Just had a deer in my yard..in daylight! Wanted to come for the birdseed, but it smelled us and heard my son’s phone clicking as he tried to take pictures. Went over the 4 ft. fence like it was nothing.!!
CarolV: Oh, “deer” ! 😀
“Doe, a deer, a female deer…”
CarolV: Oh, joy!! Another song for my earworm repertoire!! 😀 😀 Thank you!!
George brings in a treat for tea time………….
Jane had to work hard to release that fish from George’s hooks!
She gets a good grip before she goes……..
Your welcome……..BYE!
OK, kids..Just us……..
Carol.remember to check spelling………..
Jane is on the perch but George is in no hurry to go………
When he did go, he went straight to the perch…. Jane is still on far left. upstairs
and Jane comes in………..
I’m amazed that weather feather has hung on for so long! (far left on end of stick…) It flutters away at a brisk pace today, so at least there is a good breeze…
Temp has reached 86, hotter than predicted……… at least it’s not as bad as western LI and Manhattan!
Oh, Jane, Jane, Jane …
Jane,Jane,Jane…so plain to see girl that you have something stuck on your beak! Janey Janey Janey Janey Janey
Isabella: I loved that song back then!! Brings back memories — my girlfriend and I driving around, radio cranking, windows down, thinking we were so cool!! 😀 😀
Wooo Hoooo , those were the days! And we were Cool!!
Guess Jane never went for that beak-i-cure! Stuck! All’s fine ………….