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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
Almost missed this! It was quick!
@09:52- Squirmy dance and delivery on right………….
Squirmy was a little on edge…
Took her fish to go…… bye, bye , fish- thank you for the nourishment
Great shot of “to go” fish
CarolV: Sometimes if you even BLINK you can miss something!!
Sunday morning activity-
George stopped briefly and did some calling……
Squirmy stops and goes…………..
Back again………..
Squirmy reacted to a fly-by over the bay……..
She did some guarding and even alarmed a little.
Then decided to blend in to the woodwork…………..
OUTTA HERE!
CarolV: Blend into the woodwork!!!! I LOVE it!! Made for one of those coffee spitting moments!! LOL
A fish delivery for the chick by an unseen courier …
after mantling over the fish and hollering for over a little a minute …
the chick flew off with the fish …
Same shot as CarolV. Great shot!
Sanibonani Ozland! 🌧
Sanibonani George!
Sanibonani princess 👑!
George looking for breakfish
Long time no lie down on throne and look in camera!
Going to check on her order!
Fast food! Putting in her order at the “take out window”
Order up!
Yum! Fresh fish 🐟
To go!
Isabella: Zulu!! … Sanibonani … It sounds pretty when you listen to it vocalized!! Like a rhyme!!
Squirmy is 10 weeks old today! She should begin attempts at fishing, hopefully! I would prefer we get to see her successful before she goes…… the clock is ticking.
BETSY: thanks for the pic of Jane. I wondered the other night why Squirmy had a hard time getting on the perch. Thought both adults might have been there but everytime I make an assumption- weelllllllll………{:^)))
:CarolV: You’re welcome!! Almost missed who it was … thought at first it was the chick but something was different (the 18:20 hrs pic) … looked again … O.M.G it’s JANE!!
The chick showed up at the nest at about 08:48:30 hrs. She stayed less than a minute and then flew off …
She was back again at about 9:02 hrs …
She stayed for about 16 minutes before flying off …
She is 10 weeks old today!!
George came to the nest this morning at 06:11:58 hrs and did several sessions of alarming. After staying for about 9 minutes he left.
I just really noticed how much they built up the nest this year. You used to be able to see a little bit of the beach below, but now – none at all ! Hope they don’t block the camera next year !! 😀
TOO TRUE! Had a lot of headless osprey…..
CarolV: To go with headless fish!! LOL
Makes me think of the fish head song!
Isabella: Dang!! Song’s in my head now!!
Hopefully next year we won’t be counting legs and divide by two to figure out how many chicks the have… 🙂
Oh no ,not math! This is one of my happy places! Lol!
Meli: That’s funny!! May have to brush up on arithmetic!!
Nancy….your right….I thought maybe they moved the camera to give the people privacy
When’s lunch?
Isabella: What’s the black bird?
Crow/raven….or as CarolV might say…craven!
CarolV: Saw your question of September 5 at 6:34 PM on Facebook (re: Help me— still undecided– raven or crow??? Seems to be on its own). It was a crow — it had a rounded fan-like shape of the tail (The crow’s tail feathers are basically the same length … Ravens, however, have longer middle feathers in their tail …) and it cawed!!
(https://www.audubon.org/news/how-tell-raven-crow)
I checked several places and just got more confused… this guy seemed to have a curve to its beak and that tuft of feathers on the beak………… but we have MANY crows and rarely see ravens. Decided it’s a craven! hehe
CarolV: Any relation to a craisin?? LOL
STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!!!! JANE IS STILL HERE!!!!!!!!!!
2018 STATS (Revised 09/08/2018 — Jane had not been seen on nest since 09/04/2018 at 06:07:16 hrs reappeared 09/08/2018 at 18:20:33 hrs!!)
Egg #1 laid on 05/23/2018 @ 12:04:41 hrs
Egg #2 laid on 05/26/2018 @ 07:11:23 hrs
Egg #3 laid on @ time unknown (camera was down between 05/28/2018 at 21:08:24 hrs and 05/29/2018 at 09:38:55 hrs – egg first seen 05/29/2018 at around 10:11:38 hrs)
*2 eggs did not hatch
Chick (Squirmy)
Hatched 🐣: 07/01/2018 (39 days incubation)
Fledged 🐦: 08/26/2018 @ 56 days old
First fish 🐟:
Last seen 👀 at nest:
Gracie:
Not seen at nest when camera came back online on 05/22/2018; seen on 06/05/2018 in huge battle with George and Jane while trying to reclaim nest, again on 06/06/2018 in a smaller battle with George and Jane, and on 06/11/2018 in another huge battle with George and Jane, and on 7/28/2018 when she landed briefly on the nest
George:
First seen 👀 at nest: 05/22/2018 when camera came back online
Last seen 👀 at nest:
Jane (George’s new mate):
First seen 👀 at nest: 05/22/2018 when camera came back online
Last seen 👀 at nest:
I think I won’t do any more revisions until December when I know for sure they are no longer here!! LOL
Sweet Jane! ..doesn’t surprise me, Iris is still around. Before Charlotte left,she took a 5 day vaca. I think they may go off somewhere to fatten up and rest for the trip
Hellgate
Isabella: I suppose we should have expected it since she had been doing an every other day disappearing act!!
Thank you for that photo! I hope she stays put and doesn’t fly into one of those hurricanes. WHY do hurricanes have to happen during migration???
GinaM: You’re welcome!! And, I also just hate how the height of hurricane season and migration coincide!! I still get upset when I think of the osprey Virginia which Dr. B. was tracking a couple of years ago who got bowled over by the eye of a hurricane. Very sad. But, I guess since the Newsday article about osprey on LI stated that in the latest annual survey by a conservation group osprey pairs had gone up to 301 from 198 in 2014 they fare better than we think.
Lalani kahle Ozland!💤
Betsy and CarolV…thx for another day of wonderful nest events! 😊
Isabella: Whatever CarolV said!! Hee hee
Ngiyabonga, u-Isabella
Wamukelekile CarolV and Betsy!
George flew to the nest with a partial fish …
he waited patiently on the nest for a few minutes but no one came to take it from him …
so, he flew off with it …
Torn between two pictures, feelin’ like a fool. LOL
Anticipation!! Fish a’ comin’!!
They’re becoming very secretive about fish deliveries, this chick and George!! LOL This is all the view that there was of the hand-off!!:
George moved over …
then he flew away …
The chick flew off rather quickly, for her … and this was what we saw!!
And then she flew out over the water and dropped down out of sight …
A few minutes later she flew up from that area …
making her way back, chirping the whole time, to land on the right edge of the nest …
WOW! Look at all I missed to go clean the refrigerator! TY Betsy for sticking with the story!
She finally fell silent. She was there for at least a couple of minutes after she landed because there were a couple of quick glimpses of a sliver of her body. It’s possible she flew off for a spin because on two occasions a faint osprey could be seen making a circle down by the water in the triangle formed by the thin and thick sticks and the camera housing. Then she flew off from the nest at 15:56:09 hrs and there appeared to be a whole fish in her left foot. I wonder if this is what George brought her?
We’ve had some showers here today….. mid-morning and mid-afternoon… gentle ones. Possibility of more thru about 9pm.. Temp is 65 now and feels great! Dropping to maybe 59!! about dawn, under cloudy skies
Seems like meal times are SEEN less and less- about 15:41- there was a quick exchange……….Squirmy is in and yapping; she announces George coming in her usual “quiet” voice…
Squirmy dives to the right.. George pokes in his head….. guess that’s delivery………then George goes
All I saw of meal time was a wisp of Squirmy, seemingly rising on the right and a feather or two flutter on the lest as she went over the camera……
Then there she is flying away.
That was near!! I’d love to see a seagull land on the nest!!
Seagull asking Mamma Dee for a handout
On this sight pics can only be taken live….couldn’t catch it..seagull reached over and took a bite of the fish
Isabella: That must have been cute to see!!
That’s a bold seagull!
I love the silhouette of a flying crow!!
George glided out as silently as a ghost …
to get seaweed for the nest …
was supposed to be this picture!!
after positioning it in one spot — just look at the wrong picture I put in “to get seaweed for the nest …” LOL
he moved it to this spot …
then he stood, silently — and headless!! — looking around at the world …
and, then, he flew away …
he surprised the heck out of me when he came zipping by in the opposite direction from the direction he was headed when he took off!!
The chick hopped down from the perch in excited anticipation of George bringing her a (partial) fish …
She grabbed it from him just about as soon as he landed (in the no-see area) on the nest …
After he scrupulously cleaned his beak on the nest proper and on the sticks …
after she ate for a couple of minutes, practically hollering the whole time …
the chick flew off with the fish to finish eating it at another place … I would imagine she has a favorite eating spot now!!
The chick made a 2-minute appearance at the nest at 13:00 hrs — heard more than seen!!
After about a minute of silence, she did a short series of rapid quiet chirps and flew off …
then, less than a minute later a crow landed on the nest …
staying mere seconds before leaving …
apparently flying in a loop around the camera before flying away
“My! Birds come and go so quickly here!” LOL
Breakfish by George…..do they eat the whole fish?….yes, from tip to tail. What they can’t digest they spit out as pellets
Hi all..Would everyone agree last sighting of Jane Sept 5th?
June c: Last seen 👀 at nest: 09/04/2018 at 06:07:16 hrs
Jaam nga fanane Ozland! ☁️🌧
Bye George!
Go here and read
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Up to _ _ _ _ _!
Eating
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George is on _ _ _ _ _ alarming!
George _ _ _ _ off _ _ _ _ _
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Seaweed
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George _ _ _ _ off nest….bye George!
Isabella: It’s a good site!! They give a lot of information!!
George brought a big bunch of seaweed to the nest …
arranged it …
not so nice-looking picture of George!!
George then stood, headless, for a while …
before flying off …
Betsy- that “not-so-nice” picture…………… looks like we should say “Gesundheit!”
CarolV: I guess we all have a bad picture taken now and then!!
Just look at my drivers’ license!
As George flew to the nest with a fish …
The chick, up on the perch and begging for a fish, hopped down from the perch to await George’s arrival …
As she impatiently waited on the nest for him, intermittently begging as he ate part of the fish elsewhere, she looked around and fussed with things on the nest …
all excited as he finally flew to the nest …
didn’t finish my sentence!!
all excited as he finally flew to the nest after having eaten some of the fish himself at his eating spot …
she grabbed the fish from him as soon as he landed on the right edge, out of sight, of the nest …
George flew off while the chick grabbed hold of the fish with her foot …
and then stood guarding the fish until he was gone …
after positioning the fish better in her foot …
and taking a couple of bites …
she walked it over to the front of the nest …
The chick ate for a few minutes …
before flying off with the fish to finish eating it elsewhere …
I did not see Jane on the nest at all today nor did I hear her. She was last seen on nest on 9/4/2018 at 06:07:16 hrs, so this is the third day then that she has not been seen at the nest.
In trying to find a definitive answer with regard to how much time to allow to elapse without seeing a particular osprey at the nest to believe that it has left on migration I came across a blog on the Scottish Wildlife Trust website. The blog was dated 08/24/2018 (which was a Friday) and the blogger wrote, “Juvenile osprey PT0 has now not been seen by staff since Monday morning (around 10:30am), and it is believed that he (or she!) has left for migration.” (https://scottishwildlifetrust.org.uk/2018/08/osprey-update-pt0-leaves-for-migration/) That, therefore, would be 4 days since the juvenile was seen. Yet, on the blog on the Kielder Ospreys website, the blogger wrote, “Nest 3 recordings for the last few days suggest Blackaburn migrated on 4 September, as she was last seen on the evening of 3 September. She was holding on to a headless trout earlier in the day.” (https://kielderospreys.wordpress.com/blog/)
So, I’m going to stick with the 3-day time-frame!!
2018 STATS (Updated 09/07/2018)
Egg #1 laid on 05/23/2018 @ 12:04:41 hrs
Egg #2 laid on 05/26/2018 @ 07:11:23 hrs
Egg #3 laid on @ time unknown (camera was down between 05/28/2018 at 21:08:24 hrs and 05/29/2018 at 09:38:55 hrs – egg first seen 05/29/2018 at around 10:11:38 hrs)
*2 eggs did not hatch
Chick (Squirmy)
Hatched 🐣: 07/01/2018 (39 days incubation)
Fledged 🐦: 08/26/2018 @ 56 days old
First fish 🐟:
Last seen 👀 at nest:
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Gracie:
Not seen at nest when camera came back online on 05/22/2018; seen on 06/05/2018 in huge battle with George and Jane while trying to reclaim nest, again on 06/06/2018 in a smaller battle with George and Jane, and on 06/11/2018 in another huge battle with George and Jane, and on 7/28/2018 when she landed briefly on the nest
George:
First seen 👀 at nest: 05/22/2018 when camera came back online
Last seen 👀 at nest:
Jane (George’s new mate):
First seen 👀 at nest: 05/22/2018 when camera came back online
Last seen 👀 at nest: 09/04/2018 at 06:07:16 hrs
Here’s a tidbit I found this evening:
“There’s no real way to tell exactly where an osprey winters except for satellite tracking devices, although studies have put together regional pattern (sic) for the raptors that live on six of the seven continents.
The osprey that nest in the western United States overwinter from southern Texas through Mexico and into southern Central America, however, rarely in South America.
Osprey from eastern U.S. breeding sites overwinter in small numbers in the Caribbean and mostly in South America.
An osprey takse (sic) 15-50 days to complete its migration, and it may log more than 160,000 migration miles in its 15- to 20-year lifetime, which could boil down to 8,000 miles per year or 4,000 miles for a one-way trip. A straight line from Okoboji to central Brazil is approximately 4,800 miles, so most likely our osprey are somewhere in the northern half of South America.”
(http://dickinsoncountyconservationboard.com/2017/10/03/osprey-fly-south-in-the-winter-to-whereabouts-unknown/)
Wow, that’s a LOT of mileage on those beautiful wings!! (Average wingspan is 5 to 6 feet [https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/birds/o/osprey/ and https://www.nwf.org/Educational-Resources/Wildlife-Guide/Birds/Osprey%5D)
Another tidbit:
Flight speeds measured by radar in Europe: Average flap-gliding speeds (13.7 m/s) and gliding speeds (12.5 m/s) are realistic values for migration (45–50 km/h; Bruderer and Boldt 2001). Migrating birds equipped with GPS units typically fly between 6.7 and 12.5 m/s (24.1 to 45 km/h) (ROB). One adult migrating south with strong tailwinds reached 22.4 m/s (80 km/h; OspreyTrax-Belle). (https://birdsna.org/Species-Account/bna/species/osprey/behavior)
If 1 km/hr = 0.621371 mph, then 80 km/hr = 49.7097 mph. Imagine flying at close to 50 mph on your own wing power!!
PS – OspreyTrax is Dr. Rob Bierregaard’s website
Naka ngon si Ozland! 😴
Betsy and CarolV…thank you for ALL your pics, captions and comments today! 👏❤️😊👍
Isabella: You’re welcome Isabella. Glad to see you posting today!!
Goose
Nice story about a rehabilitation project… not osprey but a great organization
http://www.crowclinic.org/articles/crow-animal-ambassador-gets-new-lease-on-life-in-the-wild
CarolV: I thought it would be about crows and their rehabilitation!! LOL But, CROW stands for Clinic for the Rehabilitation of Wildlife (CROW)!!
Lol!…thought the same thing….thought “what’s up with the turtle”
Admin Shelli: Hi Admin Shelli!! You’ve been quiet for a while (the last post I saw from you was August 29th). Are you okay?
Betsy..I also inquired about Shelli. Asked how she was feeling since her mouth surgery. Haven’t heard back
Looks like camera shut down earlier than usual….
7o now, dropping to 64 under cloudy skies- ch 12 weather says most storms will probably pass south over the ocean tonight
Tomorrow- mostly cloudy, high- low-mid 70s.
HAGN!
George flying from the nest.
Squirmy came in and did some nestorating……..
George comes in….. Squirmy checks his feet!
Then, she laid down to beg…..
When he flew out, she watched every move………..
Squirmy pushes herself up and heads to perch, muttering up there, from time to time
Seing this picture makes me imagine Squirmy being a mother (or father) some day, taking care of her own family. The circle of life….
George first alarmed and, then, chased away an intruder
Squirmy does her dance and rushes to right to grab fish…….
She walks in to view and mantles- George is on edge of nest behind her…..
George leaves–
And Squirmy goes, dragging the nest behind her—{;^})
This was hard to see, especially in a still shot…… Squirmy flew out and down and looked like she landed on the beach………
Well…. my arrow didn’t appear on that bottom pic. There’s a dark smudge right at the white surf line…. in that “triangle” gap in the sticks……..….Squirmy
CarolV: It looked to me like she continued on to the pilings, that are hidden by that branch in the nest, to eat the fish!! This picture may be better
the arrow points to where she was before she continued to the left.
PS – She’s the butterfly-shaped smudge just below the straight smudge line at the edge of the white surf!! LOL!!
The chick raced to the perch, hollering all the way, as she saw George flying to the nest with a (partial) fish) …
she hopped down from the perch within a couple of seconds of his landing and, in a chaotic mess of feathers, turned to George …
and grabbed the fish from him …
After standing on the nest for a couple of minutes, with George alternately surveying the nest and surrounding area and cleaning his beak and with the chick on the right edge, heard but only partially seen,
they flew away, almost in unison …
(one of those times I couldn’t decide on which picture!! LOL)
Betsy- Too bad we can’t add mine to your two! All slightly diff….. all good
And all within the same second
CarolV: Next time!! LOL
The chick when careening by with a shriek!! (all the way over on the left — head first!!)
George stops in to check nest
……moves some nest material…..
Checks one stick-
Moves wood he brought in earlier to the porch…………
Tests this stick…..and out…………..
Isabella (and Gordon, after I read his latest post): I don’t (usually) mind posting info!! It did get a little annoying in 2016 when info/updates were given and people kept asking the same question(s) over and over and over again instead of going back and reading the comments!! I didn’t start watching OZ until after I’d read a second article in Newsday in the summer of 2015 about the webcam, then after a few days I decided to check it out. I barely knew what an osprey was, actually, truth be told, I had no idea what an osprey was!! I started watching a day or two before that big storm and then during the storm the power out there went out and the video stream went down!! Oh, my gosh … are the chicks okay???? (Paul posted a comment that they were fine!!) I had no idea who was who or what was what!! I tried reading the comments, but that made matters worse when I read, for instance, a comment that said George landed on the nest with a fish at such-and-such time while another person wrote that Gracie landed on the nest with a fish at the exact same such-and-such time … then the first person wrote, Oh no, that was Gracie, and the second person wrote, Oh no, that was George!! Forget the comments!! I was determined that the next year, 2016, I would start watching from the get-go!! I thought of a million questions, and I figured other people had questions just like I did about all things osprey!! So I started researching online, going to reputable sites, and gathering facts and information and tidbits which I then shared on OZ. I covered a lot!! – the digestive system, reproductive system, osprey egg size (a little larger than a chicken egg, although I never did find out if that was a large, extra-large, or jumbo size chicken egg!! LOL And, wonderful Google kept listing sites about how to cook an osprey egg!! Noooooo, I didn’t want to cook an osprey egg!! I just wanted to know its size!!), toes/foot/leg structure, feathers, nests (tidbit: smaller birds make nests of their own within crevices of the osprey nest!!), growth stages and milestones of osprey chicks pertinent to the age “our” chicks were, fishing, and migration!!
And, after reading Gordon’s latest comment, I think he got it right when he wrote that “most of us have been viewing the nest for three or four years and understand most of what is going on; however, there may be newcomers who are not so well informed.” It’s easy to lose sight of that fact when you watch a site for years and have already gained knowledge about osprey. Re-posting information can also reinforce what someone may have forgotten!!
And, no offense taken, Isabella!! Most of us know that there needs to be a little levity in life and try to find the humorous side of things when apt.
And, Isabella, we love you!! So, please continue to post your pictures!!
ISABELLA- Betsy probably remembers more than once I told her-and Rjoneal- to just take a deep breath and let it go… time for you- just breathe! In and out, expel the negative and say-I’m done!
he terminado
Ou te faia
我完了 wǒ wán liǎo
Ts’o’okan in
{:*}}}
And go back to posting-
I remember and I agree!!
13:08- George comes in-
…… Squirmy comes off perch and we get the up close and personal view…
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George is beak cleaning and dawdling….
Squirmy is guarding her fish and yapping at him……
Squirmy flew straight up as George leisurely flew out……………
Squirmy was right behind him… couldn’t see if she carried fish….
CarolV: I think she dropped it!!
It looks like she grabbed it at first (you can just see her foot on the fish between the 2 pieces of wood)…
but, then, as she took off, it looks like she also took up nest material …
because her foot looks empty!!
I-i-i-i-t-t-t’s crow time!!
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They’re so nice and dark! They look like those silhouettes we did in art class in school! Luv um!
CarolV: Can be used as Halloween cutouts!! Teehee
Rust tide!….one of the reasons I watch osprey nest. They made a comeback after the DDT ban. This to me hopefully means our water and sea life is ok. Unfortunately the osprey are like a “canary in a coal mine “ and may eventually be affected. This is what concerns me, should concern all of us. Not the fact that there are too many pics to scroll through. Possibly due to pics, we can pick up early signs of trouble! Early intervention may alert and hopefully prevent harm to all sea life. I’d rather be taking & posting pics of a beautiful osprey family doing well, then looking at an empty nest!
Isabella: Yes, very concerning what we are doing to our Earth — our one and only Earth!!
Seagull
George dropped off nesting material, not even taking the time to arrange it …
Got to get in the pictures of George with a head, ’cause he’s usually headless!! LOL
and then he took off …
A just because picture of George!!
George returned to the nest at 08:07 with a partial fish …
After standing on the right edge for a bit, George hopped-flew with the fish to the front of the nest …
where he stood with the fish patiently waiting for someone to claim it …
Finally, the chick came back to the nest …
and took the fish from George …
after thoroughly wiping off his beak …
George flew off …
returning a couple of minutes later with a whole fish …
Oopsie-daisy!! Was a piece of wood!! I thought it was some kind of speckled fish! LOL
I was wondering why it wasn’t flapping!! Hee hee hee!!
Maybe it was one of those fish plaques- all eroded and water ruined- I could swear I heard singing…..
oops- credit to Talking Heads for their lyrics
Song of the day
CarolV: Too funny!!
Meanwhile, the chick, after standing on the right edge of the nest with the partial fish since taking possession of it from George, positioned the partial fish for carrying …
and flew away with it …
after making sure his beak was meticulously clean …
George went up to the perch …
And, 🎝The fish sits alone, the fish sits alone, Hi-ho, the derry-o… the fish sits alone 🎜
Have to change it to: 🎝The wood sits alone, the wood sits alone, Hi-ho, the derry-o… the wood sits alone 🎜🤣
check! fish-shaped wood
CarolV: I only realized after I read your comment this morning that it was wood and not a fish!! 🤣 🤣 But, at the time I got the shot, I was wondering what kind of “fish” was it that looked speckly and why the “fish” wasn’t flopping around!! 🤣 🤣🤣
SKY WATCH……….. It’s that kind of day… when high winds in the atmosphere keep those scudding, ever changing formations so mesmerizing…..
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Dobro jutro Ozland!🌥
prazan zaslon, Isabella
CarolV: Empty screen!! Hee hee
9:07- George comes in….. not sure if headless fish is new or reclaimed leftover
And he waits……
Squirmy comes in to take it…
George cleans his beak and goes, as Squirmy yells after him………..
George decides wood is needed…………
Squirmy wasn’t really eating and George’s tail in her face encourages her to pack up……………
……. and boogey………… now that she’s learned the trick, why not use it???
I was under the impression the photos were made smaller and “clickable” in response to people who thought there were too many taking up too much space? And that’s my last comment on this issue………..don
Looks like I was so done, I didn’t finish the word! teehee
CarolV: Yes, Aidan did and they were!! Here’s what he wrote:
Aidan July 12, 2017 at 10:08 am
Hi everybody,
I’m going to be updating the plugin we use for attaching images to comments shortly. It should work exactly the same as the current system when commenting, but there are a lot of extra features and options. One option is to show a smaller image in the comment and allow you to see the full-sized image by clicking on it. I hope this will address some of the issues people have with the comment section being hard to follow, as well as reducing the size and load time of the page.
George posing for Studmuffin Monthly
7:10 am……… action begins…… Squirmy dance…..
Squirmy going for fish was facing wrong way when the wind gust found her! Bottoms up!
George was fighting the wind, too, but he delivered a nice fish……… Squirmy was happy to take it-
Of, course, she headed right- this was about the most we saw of the feeding……
In, HB by my house, we had one really loud thunder clap, which was when I folded up for the night…..can we say scairdy-cat?………….. there was plenty of noise from a distance. At times it sounded like fireworks’ staccato rumble! And lightning flashes. Don’t think we had as much rain overnight as other parts of the Island
It looked windy by the nest. Fairly calm but overcast now, on the South Fork. Looks like a gloomy day, with 30-40% chance of showers this afternoon
It’s breezy by me, and at the nest it looks downright windy, the way the tower is rocking and from the sound of the wind in the microphone. The chick tried to make an unsuccessful landing on the nest this morning, barely touching down before looking as if she was sucked up by a giant unseen vacuum and making a squeak as she went up!!
And, then she flew — probably blew!! — away
A little over a half-hour later she was back at the nest, landing successfully this time …
to get her fish from George who had landed with one on the right edge of the nest …
as she was trying to grab the fish the wind caught her feathers and she upended!! …
which caused George to move to a different spot with the fish …
but with the wind, and those wings, as the chick was reaching for the fish George blew upward …
then came down to land in another spot with the fish …
the chick grabbed the fish from George …
and moved it over to the right edge of the nest …
then George flew/blew away …
I thought the chick would stay there, on the nest, to eat the fish, with the wind being what it is I would think it would be hard to balance on a tree branch!!, but then I saw the fish’s tail go up and heaven’t heard the chick squealing as she eats the fish, so apparently she went to eat it somewhere else …
I did not see Jane on the nest at all today and I did not hear her. That makes day #2 that she has not been seen at the nest. I think I read somewhere, maybe on this site, that if an osprey is not seen for 3 days they most likely left on migration. However, in 2016, the last we saw Brutus was on September 3rd and we all thought she was gone, and, then, she showed up at the nest 3 days later, on September 6th, in the middle of that raging storm!!
Reading my comment this morning, I see my I used mixed pronouns!! I’m editing the one line to read: is not seen for 3 days it most likely left on migration. Ha!
Laku noc Ozland!💤
Betsy and CarolV…thx for your pics and captions!
Isabella: You’re welcome!! Thanks for yours and also for the language lessons!! LOL
plavu kutiju , Isabella
Blue box
Ever since June’s June 21, 2016 lightning bolt on the water picture I’ve wanted to capture one of my own!! Here it is!!
And, a two-fer!! Not as impressive, though!
I go almost 3 years without a one, and now 3!!
WOW! Stunner! 3 for 3!
CarolV: Feast or famine!!
Last 3 lightning pictures — sorry, I couldn’t resist!! LOL They were at the tail end of the individual strikes and there wasn’t the harsh bright light as when the lightning strike first starts, in the first two pictures everything looks soft and beige and lavender and the third looks like a retro black-and-white picture!!
Nice catch….isn’t it exciting…
June c: Thank you!! I was so envious that you caught that lightning bolt in 2016!! When you compare pictures, they’re in almost the exact same spot!!
Awesome!
With osprey migration looming in the near future and that it coincides with hurricane season, I start getting nervous about all birds making the strenuous journey. I try to remain positive but it’s hard.
Trinity: I know!! I do, too!
I agree………… now they’re talking – is it Florence?- heading this way next week. Hopefully George will be staying awhile to get Squirmy fattened up……….. and I would SO love to see her with her own-caught fish!
Lightning near the nest!! That was blinding!! Finished our storm south shore Nassau County about an hour ago, I guess — but there are still occasional flashes of lightning. Was a pretty intense storm with a lot of lightning and loud claps of thunder … and sharp cracks of thunder!! And, the rain … wow-wee!! I just love thunder storms!! My mother tells me that my great grandmother would walk back and forth during a thunderstorm throwing her hands up in the air and saying, “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph; Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.” LOL
I respect everyone’s opinion, however, as for my own opinion: I really DO appreciate the detailed info and pictures. There are days when I don’t find the time to follow with what’s going on in the nest, and having all the details and photos posted here in detail really helps a lot. I love the fun, exciting, detailed posts. Had they not been here constantly and on a daily basis, to me, this would be like reading a book and realizing that some pages were missing, or the last pages were missing, and I would be left wondering….. what went on there?…. Just like when we missed the first chapter: “Gracie”…. this spring. Questions would be constantly asked, everyone would be confused. To me, OZ is like a movie, reality show, where the actors are no others than our beautiful trios… when I know they ate, I am happy, my day is more beautiful… I learn thru pictures and comments a lot about their daily routines, etc… I love the tranquility, the gore (fish ripping), the violence (fights), the love (beak feeding), the pictures of digested fish being expelled thru the other end, I love close ups of Squirmy’s talons, his funny faces when he screams (oh so cute) and I can never have enough. This is not to judge anyone, but to say Thank you for the comments and pictures to those who do it, good or bad, positive or negative, I enjoy them al…. they make me laugh, sometimes even cry, like an idiot… This site is so unique and this is what attracts me to it everyday…. the story that is being written for all to read, a real story of 3 beautiful travelers thru the world, life and this nest <3
Meli: So beautifully put!!
Meli- thank you! Very well said and explains my feelings, too! And that’s why I post… because I hate missing things. And that’s why I enjoy ALL the other posts, because I can’t be here all the time.
JUNE C……. love what you do with the voice graphs…. remember them from last year……….. is there any chance you could check the a.m. voices (like 6am-ish?), as that seems to be a time when we think we hear Jane ……. she’s playing coy or may have left…… would be interesting to know…
Hi Carol…this is Jane’s voice pattern…will try and catch for u…
TY! But may be too late…. unless she’s on a 2 day spa vaca…………
There’s a strong storm coming from the north. Reports say it was along thr CT coast about 20-25 mins. ago.; with violent thunder and lightning………rapidly getting dark and wind picking up at my house, SW of nest.
See it started in OZ and I heard pitter patter a few mins. at my house.
Saw Squirmy scurry across sky and head in………….
Tried several times to get to perch…………..
Then stood in corner looking pitiful (I know, exaggerating)
She tried again and got herself on there……….
That band passed thru. Still see sky lighting up and can hear thunder ……… More rain on the way- possible rain all night.
Looks like George headed up about now………….
I was driving home from work about 5:15 and the cloud formations were phenomenal! You could see the front colliding with the warmer air and doing all kinds of crazy swirling with the clouds. Too bad it’s not showing so well here……… but still spectacular
I may not post comments but I look forward to catching up with the daily nest activities through the many wonderful pictures, videos and comments so kindly posted by everyone else. Thank you so very much to those who post on a regular basis for keeping us viewers up to date with Squirmy, George & Jane. I love this nest and the funny pictures and commentary are so much appreciated.
A big skein of geese flew past the nest this am …
Nice catch! honk-honk
CarolV: Thanks!!
The chick raced to the nest this morning, landing on it about 10 seconds before George …
impatient for George’s fish delivery …
George flew off as soon as the chick took hold of the fish …
The chick took a couple of bites and then FLEW OFF with the fish. Last evening, after first standing on the right edge of the nest and eating part of the partial fish George had brought it, the chick took off from the nest with the fish, flew out over the water, and returned to the nest with the fish to finish eating it That was the first time I observed the chick flying from the nest with fish in tow.
Picture of the chick flying off with the fish, from this am …
I saw the flight last night and wondered if it were the first; it was the first time I had seen her do that. Missed this a.m.-TY
I hope Squirmy starts fishing on her own soon, it’s worry some to think of her attempting to learn during the long trip down south. And for anyone not happy with this site, remember the golden rule “ if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all. “ The internet gives people a certain confidence to voice unwanted opinions on a public forum, it’s very easy to hide behind your computer or phone screen ! 😀
Trinity you are 100% correct…my bad…
Quick GM from the rising sun……..start of a HHH day on the East End.
No birds on the nest but lots of bees! I did hear someone but not sure whom……..
…………………………………………………….HAGD, EVERYONE!
I am a little confused about what people mean when they write that they want information about what is happening on the nest. The pictures and commentary with the pictures GIVE information about what is happening on the nest!! That the chick shows up at the nest, looking healthy, and is eating well and is self-feeding; that George is supplying fish (partial or whole) to the chick and brings in nesting material; that Jane is rarely seen these days, making the occasional appearance, generally in the early morning, and is not otherwise contributing to the nest or supplying fish to the chick. When the eggs were near ready to hatch, I know that both Shelli and I supplied information about the hatching process and as the chick reached milestones I supplied information about that stage (here are a couple of excellent links: http://www.glenlakesfoleyal.com/html/osprey_information.html and https://www.cumauriceriver.org/conservation-wildlife/avian/osprey/osprey-eggs-to-flight-slideshow/). The only things left now on the “to do list” is for the chick to catch a fish, and as Isabella posted, if it does not catch one before starting its migration, without a parent supplying fish to the chick, instinct will kick in and it will learn to fish en route and for Jane, George, and the chick to migrate. What the heck else would/could you possibly want to know??!!
Migration Information:
“Migrations:
There are two distinct populations of osprey with respect to lifestyle, the Residents and the Migrants. Residents are the ones, which breed in the subtropical latitudes in winter; they either stay in the same area all year round or move only locally during the non-breeding season. The other ones are the Migrants, which nest in the temperate latitudes and fly off each autumn to spend the winter in the tropical regions.
North American ospreys start migrating south to their wintering grounds in Central America and in the northern parts of South America, around mid-August. By early September, most nesting colonies in the northern latitudes are empty. The numbers of migrating ospreys observed at selected watch points along their southward route are at their greatest during mid-September and early October.
They reach their wintering grounds by late November. During winter, the only thing an osprey does is to eat, rest, recover from the stress of the previous breeding season and prepare for the next breeding season. It has been observed that during winter, they become more tolerant of each other as they congregate in loose flocks and are even known to hunt together in small groups, a few birds hovering over water, looking for fish might also stimulate others to join in the frenzy.
Adult ospreys start leaving their wintering grounds in early March, by late March, more than half of the wintering ospreys have left the wintering areas, for their natal nesting grounds.
Yearling ospreys stay on their wintering grounds for another eighteen months, returning to their natal nesting grounds at the age of about two years.
Two-year-old ospreys however, leave the wintering grounds much later than the adults, and may reach their natal nesting grounds as late as June, by then; they are already too late to breed. However, pre-adult ospreys may become a nuisance to the breeders, because they try to take over nest sites and may interfere with the breeding pairs, as they explore and search for nesting sites of their own. They are also sometimes known to replace a partner in a breeding pair if it dies or is incapable of performing its duties.
Ospreys arrive back at their natal nesting grounds by early May.” (http://www.glenlakesfoleyal.com/html/osprey_information.html)
“Individuals typically migrate singly, except at concentration points. Kerlinger and Moore 1989 reported that 80% of Ospreys sighted during fall over New York State were alone, 11% seen with other raptors (primarily Broad-winged Hawks [Buteo platypterus]), with maximum flock size 2 individuals. A flock of 11 was reported at Cape May, New Jersey (Dunne et al. 1988). Larger flocks (up to 92 individuals) have been reported in Cuba (Rodríguez-Santana et al. 2014) and Haiti (Crouse and Keith 1999) where the broad-front migration from eastern and (partly) central North America is concentrated as it passes through the Caribbean.
Satellite telemetry data show: (1) male-female differences in timing of migration (females leave up to a month before males), distance traveled, and overwintering locations; (2) individuals followed for over 1 yr by satellite telemetry showed unwavering fidelity to overwintering sites and a general fidelity to migration flyways, but not to specific routes; (3) breeding pairs did not migrate or overwinter together (Martell et al. 2001a, Martell et al. 2014); and (4) adults do not migrate with their offspring (MSM).
(https://birdsna.org/Species-Account/bna/species/osprey/distribution)
“Migration FAQ
1. Do Osprey pairs migrate and winter together?
Ospreys mate for life, as far as we know, but part ways each year for the fall migration. They migrate as individuals, not in groups or flocks. Usually, females leave the nesting area first, followed by the males. Mates do not see each other again until they return to their nest in spring. It would be a very rare coincidence if a pair ended up in the same wintering place.
2. Do the young migrate and winter together with parents or each other?
The young are left behind when parents migrate. A few days to several weeks later, the young take off, too. Each one finds its own route south and winters in a different place, just as the adults do.
3. When do the young migrate back north? Do they return to the place of their birth nest?
The young remain in the vicinity of the winter home and generally do not migrate north their first spring. Rather, they remain near their wintering area for another year until they are almost two years old. If young survive to the spring of their second year, they head north, but they do not necessarily return to the place of their birth nest. In fact, they may return to anywhere within a hundred miles of it. Chances are they will never see their parents, or each other, again.
4. How do Ospreys know when to start their migrations?
This question is hard to answer. Many birds respond to changing day length that at some point triggers migratory preparation, such as adding body fat to fuel the long trip. Then, environmental conditions such as wind direction and speed, atmospheric pressure, temperature or some unknown input or combination click in the birds brain, turning it from a lethargic resident into a migrating machine. Quite literally, a bird will be perched resting one moment and the next will be off like a shot out of a canon. The perplexing thing about the influence of day length on birds that winter in the tropics is that the length of daylight does not change much in that region. So there are likely many factors detected by the birds that prepare them for migration and then send them off at almost the same time each year.
5. Do Ospreys follow the same route north that they took south?
The return migration is almost always the mirror image of the fall migration. A bird that we have tracked on Nantucket, Señor Bones, migrated south in the fall and north in the spring in 2011 and in 2012 along almost exactly the same path. Minor variations occurred when he was flying over the Caribbean and over the Straits of Florida between Cuba and Florida; these variations were caused by drift with the prevailing winds at the time of the different flights.
6. How do Ospreys know where to go that is, how do they navigate to find their way back to their nests in the spring?
Ospreys use many methods to navigate. Since they do not migrate as a group, but as individuals, they cannot learn from each other. Some studies have shown that birds migrate using celestial cues, such as star patterns, or the position of the sun through the day and at the time of year. Others have shown that the earths magnetic forces aid them in migration. Some learning goes on through trial and error. Once a bird navigates successfully, it almost appears as if it has its own GPS navigational system to guide it next time around. The long and short of it is that we do not know for sure how they do it, but we do know that whatever methods they use, they can travel with remarkable accuracy from place to place.
7. Do Ospreys eat during their migrations or do they rely on fat stores to fuel them?
Ospreys fish along the way to keep up their strength. It appears that most fishing takes place early in the morning before they start the days flight, or during rest stops lasting a day or so along the way. This varies depending upon the distance traveled, the success of earlier fishing attempts, etc. Ospreys do not appear to fish when they travel out across large bodies of water such as the Straits of Florida or the Caribbean Sea.
8. What are the greatest dangers to Ospreys during migration?
One major danger is weather, especially when crossing large bodies of water. For instance, Ospreys crossing the Caribbean or the Straits of Florida can be blown off course if they fly into a strong headwind or get caught in a severe thunderstorm. Anything that slows their flight and increases the time it takes them to make the crossing could drain strength or fat reserves (their fuel) and put them at risk. Worst case, they may have to ditch into the water, or if they do make it to land somewhere, they may be too exhausted to fish to regain their strength. Another major danger is being shot by humans. This could happen anywhere. However, birds migrating in this part of the world are particularly vulnerable when they fish in private and commercial fish farms/ponds in the Dominican Republic, Haiti or Cuba. Many of the farms are owned by local people living at or near subsistence level, who do not take kindly to anyone or anything that steals their fish.
9. What happens when one mate migrates back to the nest before the other?
The longer the time interval between mates arrival at the breeding site, the more likely it is that the first to arrive will attract or be attracted to a new mate. Yes, Ospreys do mate for life as far as we know, but that bond needs to be reinforced each spring by the arrival of the second mate. If too much time elapses, a bird will accept another mate since the instinct to breed is far greater – and more important – than the instinct to wait for a mate that may have perished over the winter.
10. What happens if an Osprey returns to find his or her partner with a new mate?
In most cases, the late returning bird will drive off the new bird as the bond between the old mates will be stronger than the newly formed bond between the old and new mates, especially if the new mate is a young bird. We often see three Ospreys on a nest and conflicts between two of them early in the nesting season. These conflicts are usually short in duration and no one gets hurt in the process. However, once I found an adult Osprey dead in the nest while two adults went about their business of egg laying and rearing young. I do not know if the dead bird was a former mate or an intruder.”
(http://www.jamaicabayosprey.org/faq-about-ospreys)
FOR BETSY ………. THANK YOU for your long infos, which were worth reading every word. Super stuff and time-consuming for you. You were right to the point – no Squirmy sitting up and Squirmy sitting down Your info was well received by many, I am sure. You showed by example now what we are all looking for, no trivia, facts worth knowing only. THANK YOU – THANK YOU. ….. and the overabundance of photos – too much of the same scenes – again, less is more. Its like grandma showing 8 photos of her grandsons school photo – Understanding and Peace to all. Rodee
rodee hansen: Thank you for your kind words. (BTW, I hope you are feeling well!) I myself usually like to keep my posts brief, but sometimes I can really ramble!! And, sometimes I’m torn between a couple of pictures basically showing the same thing but I can’t decide which one I like best to post so I post them both, or I post pictures that I think are so cute I simply can’t resist sharing them!! I actually wish that I could post MORE!! LOL Everyone has their own style of posting and people express themselves based on their experience and personality, so there could be 2 identical or similar pictures posted, the individual posters giving her own take on the picture, I think adding variety and enrichment!! There’s been many a time I’ve read the narration accompanying a picture and burst out laughing and then spitting out my coffee!! For people who save pictures that are posted on this site, it gives them choices!! And, while some people may not like all the minutiae of the nest, others love it!! Just to add, to that grandma, each picture is as special to her as the next, so of course she would want to show them all!!
TY, Betsy- I was thinking that and didn’t express it…. we all have different views of the same scene……..
So I guess that me, and possibly CarolV are the offenders? Since for a few pages it seemed it was mostly me, CarolV posting pics with mostly Trinity being kind enough to comment on them. We are watching a nest of ospreys. Posting pics of the nest. You can get info from google, a book, listen to Dr. Greene ,etc. most of us have been watching for years. Betsy has been posting info for years. If someone has a question I’m sure it will be answered and possibly open a discussion. I innocently wondered where some people were, I didn’t expect the venom. I thought “ hi, we’re still here” ! I’m so sorry I did! Most of the responses ruined the season for me. Something I was enjoying. Something that helped me escape from my pain. I thought people were enjoying the pics. Thought I was helping people “see” what they were missing.
Out of respect for grandma, I would sit and act excited after each identical picture. It would give me extra quality time with grandma. 🙂
Rodee….referring to the same pics… I don’t see new post until I post mine and they are waiting for moderation. Then I see that CarolV, Betsy, or sometimes both posted almost the same thing. Although what are the chances? We are watching the same nest!
Also you and others can google osprey info like I do. Instead of poor Betsy wasting her time posting these facts over and over!
I always look at all the grandmas’ photos… she loves those babies and I respect that
Rodee….This is absolutely no offense to Betsy!! I enjoy the pics and captions! But Betsy also says things like “ chick dropped down from perch” etc.! Do you think “shake your booty” is necessary or info? Or “ not the tooooeee” again these are things I enjoy. Just pointing out Betsy is one of the picture posters some are complaining about .
Thanks, Betsy….. reminded me of things I had forgotten and even learned some new……….
FISHING
Juveniles
For at least two weeks after fledging, the young Ospreys return to their nest for food brought in by their parents. Usually the young stay in the area, close to the nest site, as they improve their skill in the air, before they then begin to make attempts to catch a fish for themselves. (http://www.ospreys.org.uk/osprey-facts/)
The parents do NOT teach them to fish. They innately know how and they will begin fishing when they are physiologically able. Males usually do it before females. (http://ospreywatch.blogspot.com/2013/08/i-am-reposting-this-post-from-dyfi.html)
Adults usually make off with a fish after two or three dives, but juveniles rarely catch their own fish until they set off on their first migration. As a result most males do not leave their nest site until all the offspring have migrated. (http://www.discoverwildlife.com/animals/birds/your-60-second-guide-osprey-fishing-behaviour)
It was at first believed that youngsters acquire hunting skills from their parents, since parents often encourage them to hunt by dropping fish in mid-air for them to dive for and snatch. However, experiments have shown that hand-raised young, if released into the wild, can also hunt successfully, after 3 days to 3 weeks of their release. (http://www.glenlakesfoleyal.com/html/osprey_information.html)
Development of foraging skills studied (2 yr) in north-central Florida (Edwards 1989b): (1) Young (n = 22) attempted to catch prey as early as 5 d after fledging, with first successful capture 11 d after; all had caught fish by 20 d after fledging. (2) Mean capture success increased with age; e.g., 22–23% success 30 d after fledging, 58–62% success 120 d after. (3) Siblings that fledged together remained together and foraged together, had higher initial capture success than single young (which foraged alone), but eventually achieved the same success rate as siblings foraging together and had similar foraging behaviors (e.g., foraging height). (4) Compared to adults, individual young showed little variation in diet, tending to catch the same species throughout the postfledging period. (https://birdsna.org/Species-Account/bna/species/osprey/breeding)
So, now y’all have everything you need to know!!
Betsy===== You have been doing a great job all year. The negativity shouldn’t be here. People can scroll through the pictures easily. They shouldn’t make negative comments about the people who put a lot of info on the site. Thanks again for that video. I appreciated that and everything you do. Others do a lot too. I really only started posting this year. I can’t do pictures and videos so I appreciate someone who does.
nfc: Thank you nfc!! I think the heat has gotten everyone and made us all cranky!! LOL
It’s the humidity that gets my crank revving…….. looks like we have a few days reprieve, thankfully
Never meant to “Complain” about the pictures. Just meant sometimes there are a lot to scroll through to find out what is going on. That is just me. You devote a lot of time to the nest and that is great. And, look how much information i got from your one post. Thank you. That is what “I” needed to know. And, relearn.
2018 STATS AND NEST INFORMATION (info through 9/5/2018)
Egg #1 laid on 05/23/2018 @ 12:04:41 hrs
Egg #2 laid on 05/26/2018 @ 07:11:23 hrs
Egg #3 laid on @ time unknown (camera was down between 05/28/2018 at 21:08:24 hrs and 05/29/2018 at 09:38:55 hrs – egg first seen 05/29/2018 at around 10:11:38 hrs)
*2 eggs did not hatch
Chick (Squirmy)
Hatched 🐣: 07/01/2018 (39 days incubation)
Fledged 🐦: 08/26/2018 @ 56 days old
First fish 🐟: To date has not been observed with self-caught fish
Last seen 👀 at nest: Comes to nest to beg for a fish from George, self-feeds (fish supplied by George), to rest, and to “check in”
Gracie:
Not seen at nest when camera came back online on 05/22/2018; seen on 06/05/2018 in huge battle with George and Jane while trying to reclaim nest, again on 06/06/2018 in a smaller battle with George and Jane, and on 06/11/2018 in another huge battle with George and Jane, and on 7/28/2018 when she landed briefly on the nest
George:
First seen 👀 at nest: 05/22/2018 when camera came back online
Last seen 👀 at nest: Still here, brings fish (partial or whole) to chick, and brings nesting material to replenish nest
Jane (George’s new mate):
First seen 👀 at nest: 05/22/2018 when camera came back online
Last seen 👀 at nest: Seems to make an appearance at the nest every other day for the last week or so and then only in the morning; I didn’t see her at all today (9/5/2018) but I believe I heard her periodically doing some alarming
Goodnight Ozland! 💤😴
I have been watching and commenting since 2015. This is the first season I’m posting pics. When I wasn’t, I would “pop” on & rely on pics to see what I missed. So I agree with CarolV! And yes,there were times I thought OMG,so much to scroll through! A lot of it was banter between some viewers. Which is why Shelli said she would only post things relevant to the nest. I have interest in 4 other nests. I give each one 2 mins. So I understand trying to glean current events! Warning ⚠️ don’t go on the hog island chat…they take a half hour to say good morning! Lol. Ospreyzone is the only nest I watch,comment and post. There are other nests you may prefer. Eg.,Belwood has no chat. Hellgate has Twitter, I thought I was “filling” in what people were missing. I was only wondering since it seemed like a lot of viewers weren’t around anymore. I may only be commenting the rest of the season. Sorry my post annoyed so many . Sorry I wasted my time. Ps. Theresa…”not necessary or even interesting” was a little hurtful!
sorry my posts and pics annoyed so many
Isabella…your pictures are great…
Isabella- no snits allowed! Would miss your input
Isabella: I’ve been meaning to post this, but for one reason or another I didn’t !! … I like the “good morning” and “good night” in the different languages that you’ve been posting and sometimes I look them up to see what language they are and use the listen feature to hear how they are pronounced!!
me, too to that!
Isabella…. not familiar with this language………. Canadian/// Eh?
This is nice to see
Isabella: How exciting for them!!
Wonderful ! It’s so important to educate the young ones about local wildlife.
That’s a great picture! You can tell they are really into it, not just doing it b/c they were told to.
Yes, I am a picture poster. So see me as a little prejudice.
But I also work and have my little I phone5 that may or may not get me on line,=; even when it does, it’s next to impossible to adjust video to fine tune.
Therefore, I appreciate SEEING what goes on when I’ve been out. Sometimes I click on every picture; sometimes I scan thru and just read comments attached. I can always go thru later.
And I go to my computer to enjoy it all, because scrolling thru this all on the phone screen is next to impossible!
If a discussion is begun, it’s easy enough to confine the answers beneath the original issues. So I’m okay with things the way they are. But- JMO
I have always found chat rooms confusing, with people responding to previous issues while others are logging in to say hello. This format is more suitable for me.
Squirmy cleaned her beak before heading upstairs……… I thought I caught a quick glimpse of her flying back in where it looked like she missed the nest, but I tried scrolling back and never found it. Did anyone else see that? Time somewhere between the last shot and 8pm.
76 now, dropping to 72 under partly cloudy sky. Tomorrow: partly sunny, temps mid 80s…… chance of t-storm near sunset as a cold front comes thru to bring seasonably cooler weather…….
Finally found that moment….. it was quick….. looked like she was aiming below nest….. then can be seen seconds later flying over bay….. low light slo-mo pics always come out blurry for me……
You can just see what might be her flying right to left across sky just before this…..
Squirmy has been complaining and begging for several minutes. I suspected George was nearby with a fish.
Sure enough, Squirmy starts her dance……as George flies in @19:02 with a headless fish………
Squirmy makes a noisy rush for the fish and takes it right………
Squirmy ate on the right for a bit, then flew, with the fish, out on the right around to the left side. She had a feast on this fish and was still eating after 7:30……..
I would like to thank all of the people who so diligently posted photos this season so that we all knew what was going on. I truly appreciate them and would be lost without them.
Kammy McLoughlin: You’re welcome!! And, I’m glad you enjoy the pictures!!