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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
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Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
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Winnie mentioned dunrovin… I popped over this morning and took pics
Chorus of three loudly demanding a 🐟🐟🐟
Nice! Lots of pixies 🧚♂️!
thank you Isabella that was nice-looks like a great place to vacation one day!
🐥 on right eating 🐟….flies to perch
Now I’m saying this is 🐥 coming down from perch with her 🐟….I’m basing it on how white legs are….although…could be George……other 🐥 appears front of nest….takes 🐟…..goes to right and eats…..maybe George brings one big 🐟 and tells them they have to share! Lol
She finishes 🐟…”brushes “ her beak…then takes off
🐟 delivery…..🐥 quickly grabs it…and like her mama…takes it to go!
🐥 grabs nice big 🐟…..other 🐥 makes a fuss…while sib mantles…..other 🐥 grabs a piece
This went back and forth….🐥 with 🐟 would pause time to time….most likely due to one or both parents alerting
🐥 with 🐟 allowed sib to take the rest
After having her fill….🐥 takes off and leaves the 🐟
Cute! Resourceful!
Hi George!….bye George!
UNO
One 🐥 eating…one🐥 begging
Begging 🐥 gets the 🐟
Loudly defends her victory….then flies off with 🐟
Breakfish!
We had some rain overnight and still gloomy with an occasional sprinkle
X
And lunch.. being well taken care of
Here’s a nice pic of your sturgeon moon CarolV
TY, Isabella. Hope the bear enjoyed its salmon
The phantom osprey is passing out fish to the kid…
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2nd chick is here and I think being fed.
Walking on all that new nesting stuff is like walking on a trampoline! And the nest gets higher already………………
Beaumont, Lady Hope and kid. Feeding time.
Was happy to see some wingersizing…
Hope was a new mom and things didn’t go well at first. 2 chicks were lost. Beaumont was not the teacher that George was for Jane. Another example that our boy is not just a Studmuffin but a superior parent and mate!
ADMIN: Hope it’s okay to post these. Will not overdo, but it’s nice to see the mid-phase that we’ve been missing with our kids.
About 17:45- Dad had delivered a fish earlier and Mom had fed the chick. Bmt brought a 2nd fish before they were done. Hope claimed the new fish.
The kid had been done eating but found the left over tail. She even did a little mantling (so cute) and managed to self-feed, mostly by choking down the tailpiece.
So glad progress is going well.
Rooting for you, Kiddo!
Begging chick in the background telling Dad- Skip the choochkies, MORE FISH, Please!
This is the choochkie ….. right across the miniscule view
And the furniture is getting bigger…………..and the begging is ongoing…………
!
Have to send a shout-out to a very nice lady who posts as WINDDANCER.
Came up to me at work the other day to introduce herself. Up from Florida and just wanted to say how much she loves Ospreyzone and all the posts…. despite a frustrating season.
Would have enjoyed being able to chat more, but we were a little busy.
Send back a HI if you see this!
Nice! Thanks for sharing 🤗
Delivery…. heard juvie beggar suddenly shut up. so guess he got his lunch
There’s 2 legs over there, attached to a body. And a fish in the right foot. Everything all blown out by the light.
Hear someone more often than I see anyone. I guess it’s Jane calling. Wonder how long she’ll be here? Hard to believe that time is almost here!
A successful AND disappointing season…. at least we got to see the arrivals of Breeze, Sunny and Jonny. And say a sad good-bye to little Jonny. Even knowing how common it is to lose that 3rd chick, can’t help but feel the loss.
George was in, alternating between nestorating and calling….. he might be who’s been doing the squawking all day.
For a sec… when I signed in, I thought they had installed a zip line! WHEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
Big flipping breakfish
USO…😴
Sounds like a chipper is being used near the nest……George? Was alerting earlier
In lieu of our missing stream… here’s the Newfoundland Ospreycam.
Late start, new mom
Just hope kid fledges in time
I’ve been peeking in on this nest…..did they name him?……mom and dad are hope and Beaumont
Isabella- don’t know if they Name the kid. Took myself off the face book page. Long story. I regret doing it now because I didn’t get a full background. But only because of that.
Carol, one of the admins just calls it the chick. The other admin calls it “Junior.”
Yes… she hinted we could only use chick or young…. don’t think she cared for kiddo or shorty or young’un… her page her choice….
and DEFINITELY NOT osplet, as someone used
LOL! Osplet is a made-up word used by some osprey fans. I’ve seen people say ospret, ospet, and ospley, and there really are no such words.
Just realized that I posted pictures from 2 weeks ago
Just took this one
My, how we’ Ve grown!
just clicked on the Dunrovin Cam in Lolo all 3 chicks are sitting in nest-what a beautiful sight!
FYI
ADMIN….. looks like video stuck at 15:04:33
.full moon 🌝 8:29am tomorrow
Hi CarolV….your 🌝 info is always interesting!
😲! WOW! What a difference the rain 🌧 made! NOT!
Don’t see much action. Some calling. Some one stopped in to alarm call
Watched for a bit this morning….mostly empty nest with residents popping in (don’t know who)…this pic is most likely George alarming
George brings a nice whole supper fish
Other chick pops down hoping for her own……sib ate it all
Too little rain….too little difference!…..no relief in sight! 🙁!
Big fish come to those who wait!
Sunny went over to hone in on fish….don’t know if she succeeded and dragged it to front of nest….or Breeze still has it…..chick that didn’t have the fish flew out and back
Still eating…while other chick waits in the wings…..pun intended
Gorgeous George always the good provider
Hi, you used to have a way to pump a watery soap solution on to the camera lens system. I guess it does not work any more.
Hi Richard….it might work if someone fixed it…but no and I don’t think it has been operable for a couple seasons….. and this is what we have been watching most of the season….BTW…..there are two chicks….Sunny and Breeze
Some one shake shake shaking their wings in the rain ☔️. I guess this is the first real rain since they had Mom hide under
They must have thought the sky was falling!
Thought this chick flew off the nest…..all was quiet….she went to the right….you can see the beak in the last pic
Now you see them…now you don’t
Breakfish 🐟
Breakfish is over….and out!
Left phone on by mistake and heard begging kid sounds
And saw happy kid
Some visits to say hello 👋
I had showers on South Fork before 6 6 this a.m.
We’ve had a couple of quick showers here in Cutchogue, one pretty hard one, which seems to be hanging on. I wonder if prolonged rain 🌧 will get through the sludge?
Sunny and Breeze pancaking…..George in front…Jane on perch
🐥🐥s getting fed on the right
Hoping for a big rain storm tomorrow with wind from the west so we can see Jane once more this year, she has been a great mom.
Hi Kammy, Jane was on the nest this morning just before 8, she and George were both on the nest, alerting. You can hear them at 7:56 am. Weather forecast as of right now shows rain from around 9 am tomorrow all day until 5 am Wed.
I agree!!….she is a great mom!…..Jane with Sunny
Turned on the George and Jane show this morning and no sign of anyone, complete silence. All of a sudden a baby lands in the nest jumping and screaming. I felt like she/he was saying, “I did it, I did it, I flew, it was so much fun, I did it, I did it” then the baby seemed to lift up to the perch. I may be wrong but that was my interpretation.
Sunny is 56 days old….in my opinion she has fledged….I’ve posted pics and comments….I also believe Breeze has fledged….they are both in the fledge age…..self feeding…..still at times being fed….like I posted yesterday with George feeding one…Jane is getting ready to leave…hope she has a safe journey and we SEE her next season!!
George arrives with 🐟….feeds a 🐥….other 🐥 is on right
🐥 is done….George continues eating
Didn’t know Jane was on perch til an alert went out…..🐥 quickly pancaked!
Must be a doozy of an alert!….George went to join Jane!…..🐥 stayed in pancake mode!
If nest is higher next season….what will we see?
Some nice damp seaweed is delivered by adult on left. Kid on right flew down, probably from perch…
Lunch order comes in…. As one kid gets fed to left, flapping wing shadows could be seen on right.
Adult swiveled to fill hungry beak on right when first kid was done.
Early morning makes for almost pretty “artistic” shots…… not many bodies in nest-or view, rather- to obstruct the light. Isabella has shown how the shorties have been going to perch…. Or are they out for a short flight?
Hey, Cutie!
I think this was George, dragging a stick…. nestwork is never done!
There’s lots of comings and goings. Vocalizing, too. It was just sounding like juvies with lunch requests.
Such a shame!….both chicks have been camera hams and we’ve been missing it!
Abstract petrified guano!
Yikes!
Who’s that osprey beyond the stucco wall?
Sunny came down from perch…..George and Jane alerting….one on nest….one on perch
Portal view has been blurry all day!…..can’t believe how long screen has been dirty!!……so sad…..have slim hope to see end of season!
🐥 en feet……standing on one foot like a big girl!
Did Sunny fledge?…..she is 54 days old…..Breeze looked up….Sunny seemed to come down from the perch!
George flies in…..sans fish 🐠
All four are home…..one on the left…one behind George….someone’s tail on the right ….talking to George?….perhaps requesting a 🐟
George shows off his fishing gear 🎣….while being serenaded by the “ go get a fish “ song!
And we didn’t even get a postcard?
Sunny and Breeze got all a flutter when George popped in…..sans fish 🐟
“I can believe I can fly…..
..……………. I believe I can touch the sky…..”
There was a lot of wing shadows and saw one or two hovers and out of frame. I was trying to hone in on one moment to see if or where the kid landed, delicately manipulating the timeline adjustment, when a certain stinker cat, who I won’t name ( named after the Crocodile Hunter) bumped my arm….. of course, it moved the cursor enough that I never found that moment again.
………… But I love him anyway….
Dundee?
HaHa! Never even thought of him! I have little Stevie Irwin………. adopted him the day Steve Irwin died. My mother wanted to call him Alfie. Then we heard the news.
Eating on the right…. probably self feeding.
And flapping wing shadows… which of course don’t translate to this still photo… looked nice in motion
Morning CarolV….hope you’re enjoying your vacation!
Hi, Isabella………….Well rested but not checking off the to-do list….. standard
My clear pic of the day….kids doing the nest orations
Tiffany!….miss you!
Carol, great pictures, thanks.
Kammy
TY…. They give us so little to work with! I appreciate Isabella and Tammy W. They have a handle on which is who…
My error…. always so good with names (no)! I meant Tiffany, who has done the i.d.ing.
@14:28….. One of our babies….
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you guys have great eyesight-me thinks more than rain to clear that screen-been watching Dunrovin Osprey Cam in Lolo Montana (3chicks) & Barnegut Osprey Cam on Long Beach Island in NJ. I wish the babies a safe fledge & look forward to next season!
We decided hammer&chisel…. just can’t get them there… Fledge should be days away… hopefully, they’ll wave down the alleyway!
Hi winnie!…. I watched dunrovin one season. Never watched barnegut….will have to check it out!
Judging by movements, think they are eating. Lots of shadows of flapping earlier.
We had rain overnight. Think they did too. No fluttering feather fluff (say 3x quickly!) .
Partly cloudy as sun plays hide-n-seek.
Slumber party…..Sunny and Breeze were wingercising…clearing the camera view….looking like they were on a trampoline!
AAhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Feels so good getting that itch!
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Having violent storms along mainland coast southwest of City… Some will be running across western LI but weatherman saying it looks like it is falling apart as it heads east. He thinks it will all fall apart before reaching the Forks. Some showers may pass through late tonight or in morning
Temps low 70s most of night, 69 by dawn
Feeling soooooo saddddd. Will we even know when anyone leaves, let alone when they fledge??? ——****** SSiiiiGGHHHHHHH!*****sniff, ssnnnniifffffffffffffffff…..
The area would need a couple of big rain storms….the rain would have to hit the screen….doesn’t look like that’s going to happen….so I think we’re going to miss the fledge….our only hope may be to see them after….before they migrate! 🙁
One shorty was across the nest, bouncing, then worked her way right, out of sight. Suddenly, she dropped straight down from out of frame, back in that spot.
Cam was down more than an hour but looking good again. It’s been a little sketchy. skipping and pausing…. maybe it needed a rest.
Lots of movement…
They must have extended the left side with a porch, because something kept popping in from the left in that left side peephole.
Looks like a nice breeze blowing and some sunny weather– both kids !!
There it is peeking………..
I think feeding is happening on the right….
This kid is resting up…. and nodding off
We had a shower over on my Fork…. now the sun is out……. and of course, forecast is changing each time I check. The 80% chance is now 50% and later in the evening….30-60% various times overnight… at least until the next time I check! 80 degs. now with a breeze.
Be still my heart!…..thought Sunny and Breeze fledged!….next minute a 🐥 popped up….Jane popped down…other 🐥 came in from the right!….first 🐟?
Ignore first pic
Feather duster
Hard to get good pics of wingercising…they are getting good air and bouncing around the nest
Sunny is 51 days old…..almost fledge time….if this rain comes….hopefully will clear screen! ⛈🤞
Some light nestkeeping…..
Lots of wingercizing.
Change in forecast again!!! Chance of rain after noon and possibilities extending thru the night….. high as 80% chance in early evening..
Fish in…… looked like a little struggle…. Jane taking fish from George or juvies getting grabby??? Only the schmutz knows…..
Looks like Breeze?…picking on fish jerky….then flew up and over sib!
Chick in back being fed
Looks like Breeze?…picking on fish jerky….then flew up and over sib
@14:36- A clear picture of someone…….
Too bad they don’t eat these! Looks juicy!
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Eating happening behind the feather fuzz….. Guessing no rain yet if the fuzz still fluttering.
We still sprinkling over here.
Someone eating………
Cam acting up….. video choppy- periods of jumping ahead 2 secs. at a time, alternating with spiral and then being okay.
We just had showers here on the South Fork. Ospreyland has a lower probability of rain and I haven’t seen any yet… chance of showers/ t-storms for both forks til about 3pm.
One lone spotty chance of shower tomorrow, mid-morning for OZ, dawn for us. As usual, early predictions of a day and 1/2 of rain have “evaporated”.
We are not alone…… and this looks like a L-o-o-n-ng shot! Local regulations prevent interference during season…..
Watched one juvie fly a short circle- out right back in left, close pass over adult. Don’t know if that was a fledge. These guys seem to be at similar stage as our babies.
Meaning Alberta, in case I confused anyone. I’m guessing the word “watched” gave it away
Sunny `
AH—-Com’on!!!
Did someone back up a truck full of seaweed? At least it settles quickly and cools the nest…
There’s a freakin’ big piece of feather fluff stuck in this corner (you can see the wisps)…. driving me crazy!!!!! Maybe I have a short attention span, but I just want to rub my nose to stop the tickle!
Feeding happening in the left peekhole…. presumably Sunny..
Breeze? moving forward at far side of nest… his turn? Adult-George?- hanging out on right…
Somebody is fooling with the left end of this stick…. bobs up and down”” hope it settles Down, not where it is…
I should NEVER complain………. they just make it worse!
So, it’s all YOUR fault!! LOL
ISABELLA…. there’s another site where the chick is younger. Newfoundland ospreycam…. Late start, new mom…. reminded me of Jane last year, but I don’t think the male was as supportive as George. She caught on and now, the kid is one of the chunkiest I’ve seen… and feisty! It’s just a cam on the nest. No chat that I saw. I tried the fb page and found out the hard way, they don’t want posts of “everyday happenings”, just information. But I check in just to watch on the cam.
There’s some question as to timing of fledge and time of season.
Thx CarolV… I watched this cam last/or year before….that chick is a fluffernutter!
Each of the chicks have been taking turns doing winger-sizing with big hops this morning, at least one of them jumping higher than camera view (not sure how much that means since the bottom of the field of view of the camera is practically at eye level with the nest!!) … no hovering yet, not that I could tell!!
Pic of feet (below the .com and the date) on the way up above camera view
Everybirdy is eating
Sunny …
Sunny and Breeze enjoying a fish.
🐟🐟
Sunny and Breeze enjoying a fish.
I think one of the chicks tried to intentionally jump up onto the camera housing!! At 1:11:30 it hopped-flapped from the right front of the nest over to behind the big smudge on the left, did some winger-sizing and then played with some nest material … about 20 seconds after that it did a little more winger-sizing, stopped, and then it looked as if it walked up to right in front of the camera … and tried to hop-fly up onto the camera housing!! At first I thought it was just continuing to winger-size in front of the camera and just hopped too high, getting its talon(s) stuck on some sticks (lots of scratchy noises), but, after watching again several times, I decided it actually tried to jump on top of the camera housing!! On PURPOSE!! And, then it landed on the right edge of the nest. Wish we could see better!!
Here’s a picture of its foot!!
My GIF is too big to be accepted on this site, so here’s the link:
https://media.giphy.com/media/eHWqj6c295Um67VBKI/giphy.gif
I zoomed past ….thought it was Jane ….. I missed it!
Unfortunately…think we’re going to miss them fledge 🙁😢😤🤬..!!
Whaaaaa!! Sniff Sniff
Tiffany- Thanks for the media feed. Nice to see a foot going in the air.
YW!!
Think we had lunch. 4 birds in nest.–family portrait? {:8[
You can see one straight ahead- George?
One to left in that “clear” spot near top.
Probably Jane with those traces of tail feathers top right.
And second juvie about 1/3 of the way up from the bottom right…………… as usual, easier to see when they were moving…
Early morning breakfish….
…. and lots of wingercize….
I think the chicks at Verizon have fledged… I didn’t get to see it ( we’ve been very busy so I can’t sneak… uh, observe the way I would like. Someone asked because she saw 2 osprey circling the tower. When I did check, 2 birds were eating on the rim, looking like juvies. The adult, probably mom,. was roosting on one of the several convenient perches the new array provides. Since I’m on vaca , won’t be able to watch this week.
I think when I planned vaca, the thought of seeing OZ kids fledge was in the back of my mind…. poop on that thought! Verizon nest is usually a few days ahead of OZ. Hope we can somehow judge if someone goes….
BTW- latest batch of patio sparrows have fledged at my house. Not that it’s silent out there! Just less of a chorus!
George brings in a good size blurry headless fish……chick on right seems to be eating…Jane may be feeding her….chick behind the stucco wall is asking George to feed her….he obliged
Fish fiesta
You’re going to have to take my word for it….there’s a chick wingercising behind the stucco wall!
The osprey season is winding down….all chicks but ours have fledged ….Halley may or may not come to the nest…Charlo and Chesapeake are on highlights….nests with chicks returning to the nest…..Belwood….golden gate bridge….boulder county…..hope to see Sunny and Breeze before and after fledge! 🤞
Rain in time to see Sunny and Breeze? 🤞
Breeze
Something spooked Breeze …
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Haven’t been checking this nest cam for a while. What happened to the camera cleaning set-up? Glad to see that all seems to be well here. It’s been tough at the other nests I follow. The Newfoundland female was a first-timer and couldn’t figure out how to get food to her 1st 2 hatchlings so they starved to death. Chick 3 is doing fine. At Hog Island we lost another young to a Great Horned Owl, and Rachel somehow injured her leg, but is hanging in there and the surviving chick made its first flight today (at least as far as the perch this morning–maybe longer later in the day.
Hi Dr. B, there are two chicks in this nest, Sunny and Breeze. The third passed away when it was only a couple of days old, as the two oldest got all the fish. The cam washer did not work last year either and we have not heard yet of any plans to fix it. The ospreys built the nest up higher, now it’s closer to the cam. That puts the cam even more in the line of fire, so to speak. The chicks are doing very well here. I am glad the Newfoundland chick is doing well, I was concerned as he seemed to roll over on his back quite a bit when he was younger, and get stuck for quite a while. I’m a long time watcher of Hog Island, since 2012. We were all very sad about the loss of Dion and happy the mannequins are out in force. Very concerned about Rachel and we all hope she will be able to survive migration and return next year. I was thrilled to see Halley fly to the perch this morning. Hoping she makes her “real” fledge tomorrow. Thank for coming by, it’s always a pleasure to hear from you!