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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
Glad to see the birds this year 2020 2👏👏👏🦅
Good night Oz! 😴……Jane was on eggs right before I took pic. She returned quickly. Must have went for a quick spin to dry off
Aside from the floodlight, I saw some distant lightning…. My app shows 100% likelihood of storm within the next hour or so…. Janie, find your raingear!
Closer…….
Getting settled for the night…. George goes; Jane drops from the perch
Jane has been yapping and staring… George is nearby, cleaning a fish…..
……………………………. Can you see the flock of birds behind her?
@19:20….. Yay! The song and dance begins! Late night snack! Well, BIG snack!
Jane enjoying our late day sun. Glad ole Sol came to the party before the day was over!
Partly cloudy skies with temps dropping from the current 69 to about 61.
Thanks, Admin and thanks, Aidan, for solving the missing pics. mystery!
Hi All,
I haven’t been watching to much because it finally got nice here and I’ve been doing yardwork “yuck”, but it seems that everytime I check in George is on the eggs except for in the morning. I’m just wondering if that’s right or not?
Also, the other day I made an suggestion about the comment section at the top of the page, whatever came of that?
Thanks
I’ll see what I can find out, Paula. Do you mean about having to go the bottom of the page to post comments?
I was wondering…. where the pages numbers are so neatly compact by the comment section…….. between the 1 and 245, there is a small box…. is there any way to make that a box to type a number in so if I wanted to skip back to say 185, it would take me straight there instead of going back a page or 2 at a time?
Carol, I have no idea if they can change that. I have wished for that myself. All I can do is ask, I’ll pass it along.
I just noticed that something changed, used to display all pages and one could just click on any page. Not sure what happened, i’ll Look into it as well as if the comment box can be moved to top.
Yes! Sometimes the pages are VERY long!
That could be due to a “ bird” named CarolV! 😋
George spends a lot of time on the eggs during the day. He sometimes pushes Jane off the egg cup. She often is hanging out on the perch by the camera. He just enjoys it!
Jane has been spending all night on the eggs since the night before she laid the second one.
Don’t know what the decision is for the comments but I agree it would be easier.
I will try and find out, Paula, thanks.
@16:08…… Fish for Jane…. decent size. George, of course, only has eyes for the eggies…
It was windy and George’s feathers were ruffling……. he decided to decorate himself! It stayed there as he got up and down, until Jane came back and he took off.
Posted this earlier but wi-fi crapped out as it was in mid post…… I think it’s lost out there somewhere….
George brings some odds and ends…….. heads straight for the eggies….
Wind gusts are picking up….. rain possibility imminent…… fast moving quick storm
The newest highlights are great. They show how much George and Jane have to fight to keep their territory safe. Thanks for doing these updates. Carol — thanks for all the pictures.
YW! Hope all is well with you in these crazy days!
George is alarming; Jane comes in to back him up…..
Good morning CarolV, Mary Anne & all Oz people!….you realize how high up the nest is when you see people on the beach
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ADMIN Mary Anne…… When I scroll back to May 28. the pics disappear….. tiny boxes that say cannot be loaded are all that show up. Same for previous pages. Is everyone having this problem?
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I’ll try it and see if it is that way for me also.
Carol, it’s not just May 28th images. All the images from May 17th through May 28 are not there. I see blank boxes. I’ll see what I can find out. Update: Aidan said the images are on the backup, so they should be able to be restored. They are working on it on now.
TY…. I didn’t know how far it went…. had just checked back a few days before the 28th…. hope it works.
Just checked, they restored the images.
Yes.. I’ve had blank boxes for days
Breakfish @07:46……..
……………………..Looked like a large one…… no time for chit-chat
George, George , George…. thought you kicked the plastic habit!
Thought it blew away but it just blew under Jane…
Enjoying the sunshine…………..
………………temps about 66, heading to 72…….. sun changing to overcast, with rain and t-storms coming later today….. after 3pm.
Good night Jane 💤
Mary Anne….thank you for responding to my query. I guess this nest is most likely laying eggs late may , early June. Thought the second article was interesting about mating and fertilization. Also noticed Shelli isn’t on this season. Hope she’s doing well!
George is on the nest…..
Temp is 64, dropping to 59 by dawn, under overcast skies… slight chance of a shower 3-4 am.
Jane is in,…. guess we’re set for the night………. HAGN, everyone…
@16:16…. George brings a real fish! Large and headless, it looks good to Jane!
George had started almost immediately; a pest must have followed him. Jane waited a minute, but took off, even as George continued to alarm.
George flew out, maybe in chase, but was back in a few minutes to sit….
Mama’s home
@13:38…….. George has a small fish…. look closely!
………… Jane doesn’t even bother flying out! GULP!!!!!! and it’s gone!
Girl has quite an appetite !
Jane decides it’s time for that branch to go…. but I know George has tried with no luck. I think it’s multi branched and bigger than it looks.
Jane gets a good grip and pushes so hard she almost goes a$$ over teakettle !!
Maybe it looks fine where it is!
2nd fish @09:37…. way to go George!
Jane got up slowly…. she had been alarming and it took a second to see what George has…..
………. Jane goes off and George multi-tasks…. set on eggies and nestorate…
Some scenes from a busy morning….Jane is back…….
George sails in on a board…. he must have a stash of these somewhere…..
Reacting to a pest…..
George plays “What can I put on Jane?”
Heyyyy Marty McFly
Good one! took a minute!
Excellent Trinity! A play on the movie and that George is flying. Plus the dad’s name is George!
Lol!!
Always love a wing pic of Jane and her matching eggs!
GM, Jane! George seems to be MIA with his morning greeting
@05:13….Early breakfish! George was working early this a.m.! It’s odd, but both the head AND tail are gone from this piece of fish. There’s plenty left tho!
For anyone new to ospreys…they usually take the fish off nest to keep it clean. If you visit a nest you will see various fish parts littering the ground.
If you squint you can see Jane 💤
The moonlight helped
I wonder if we’ll see Jane overnight?
58 now, with chance of a passing shower….. 52 by dawn….. clouds may partly clear
Jane found a treasure of her own……. Fortunately, she finds an out of the way spot to place it…
The sun creeping under the clouds creates some beautiful effects…..
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What is that?…thought it was a fish 🐟
Beautiful lighting in sun creeping under…..George looks bewildered in last pic!
Isabella…. that’s part of a horseshoe crab shell. Pretty big one. George has brought smaller ones to the nest but they’re usually bleached a tan color.
Remember the sea robin and your green “turtle “ !
CarolV ‘ s turtle 2019
Gorgeous George pops up and heads to perch””””””””””
………………………………. Jane nodded off under his watchful eye,,,
He’s up to his old tricks, landing this stick on Jane!
Think he likes to “adorn” his lady
@15:02…….. A good sized fish to make up for this morning’s stingy portion….
Jane comes in to perch…. she’s enjoying her break………..
62 right now, almost the high. for the day……. starting to cloud over….. partly cloudy through the evening.
Welcome June! Hello Monday!
GM, G&J!
@08:01, George arrives with a fish….
…………..Jane takes off…………….George decides to have a few bites while he waits, then leaves……..
@08:44………. George is back with a chunk of fish….. he seems reluctant to turn it over, but Jane does get it….what’s left
The neighbor flits on the right…. maybe, like the sparrows on my patio, they have alternating condos….
They don’t nest in my yard..but they are busy in my yard taking dirt baths and bullying the other birds at the birdbath. They are so cute to watch. When I sit out there they whiz by so close you can hear their wings. I hung shiny wind chimes on a crepe myrtle near my porch to keep them from leaving “gifts “ on my porch.
Jane doing egg duty on a cool bright night……wonder if there are other Long Island nest with the same egg timeline as Oz?
Funny how the pairs are different from nest to nest…..this pair in barnegat hang out like this quite a bit…..Jane and George take turns on the nest
Pic was too big to load………if anyone is interested there are two active nest at the arboretum in great river. One on a chimney on the mansion…another on top of a tree on the grounds
There are some from western Suffolk…go to PSEG web site and click thru till you find their two webcams they installed this spring, They are both ahead of OZ.
Oyster bay & Patchogue….both have chicks…..I can’t see into the nest at arboretum…the behavior with female on nest and male flying around getting fish..hanging out in trees…returning to nest…suggest they have chicks. Oz always seems to be behind…wonder why?
I’m thinking the second darker egg will be the one to hatch if only one hatches. Today should be the day for number three. Both eggs were laid on a birthday in my family. Today is my uncle George’s..so it seems fitting!
The first date there were 2 ospreys at the Patchogue nest was April 4th. Jane did not arrive until May 1st so she and George got a much later start this year.
Jane comes in for the night shift, She looks well fed!
I think these 2 are enough – I am concerned that a third chick would be picked on by the other two – as many of you know, this happened about 3-4 years ago. There was just too much time between the first and the third then and it seems the same this year. We did have a successful third chick a year or so after – that little one was very strong, he stood right up to the other two and he was the first one to leave the nest – it was quite remarkable so if there is a third this year, that’s what I would hope for.
Hi, Helen… I’m with you. IF both these eggs hatch, there is already a 4 1/2 day gap between them, so the #2 is already at a disadvantage….I’d be happy with a single chick at this point
George has dinnerfish @19:27…… a lovely shade of red…. extra juicy.
……….Jane doesn’t jump up right away, but decides to take it and goes…
I heard Jane loudly complaining and saw George’s shadow…. as I suspected, he’s up there with a fish! I was just able to catch his fly-by and saw the fish. @15:33…… how long will he keep her waiting… he’s gotta be hungry, too
@16:18… George stops torturing Jane and brings her the huge headless fish she’s been yammering for.! Grab&go….. Bon Appetit , ma Cherie!
Jane is back……
George seems to be sticking close… a lot of alarming…. this is one where George is in the nest and pest flies right over him; its shadow falls on him…
George flies in and goes to perch… haven’t seen a fish yet but sometimes when there’s traffic on the bay, it’s not unusual….. or I missed it
Sunday, Sunday… living up to its name! First morning since I can’t remember when that there is no fog!
The pair have changed places several times already
Of course, the pest is at work… Lots of challenging….. and a close fly-over…
Uh… George…. I’m back……………
Jane on the eggies under a beautiful sunset.
Still 74 @8pm……… clear skies all night with temps down to 56……………………………… HAGN!
19:03… dinnerfish! George came in over the perch with a hungry Jane wondering wth as he flew passed her.??? He circled around and brought a really nice headless fish, He just dropped it before she could even take it…. He has other priorities!
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Jane was announcing that George was nearby, cleaning HER fish
About 25 mins. later, George brings the fish @15:49.
Someone is hanging around. After Jane went, it must have flown closer, as George’s challenges got louder. The cavalry charges in as Jane heads back to the perch!
After Jane left again, George moved briefly to the perch, where his shadow covered the eggies…. He was back on them in a few minutes…
Jane stretches and eyes the perch, leaping up there. It’s 74 and sunny, so the eggies should be warm…
Looks like a boat social out on the bay….. lots of traffic on such a gorgeous day!
Brunchfish @10:11……. George flew in straight head on…. always a joy to watch!
…….Jane was ready and popped up as he landed……..quick exchange
Nice landing, George!
Business as usual…… George reacts to a fly-over……
….Jane jumps from perch, to literally, stand behind him….
The pest can be seen flying away….
Judging by her actions, Jane had seen George and fish 13 mins. earlier. So she was more than ready when George arrived @06:52.
George is just ready to get back to those eggies!
Good morning, G&J! Jane takes a good break
Jane has spent the last 2 nights on the nest… no long breaks. I think she’s finally settled in.
Always an interesting effect when that light shines from below…..
Jane is in ….
HAGN!
I hope this is OK to post. It’s a recent rescue of an osplet hidden under a plastic bag. This was on Long Island, but west of us
Carol, this nest is not on Long Island. Island Beach State Park is on the Barnegat peninsula in New Jersey. They have a lot of osprey nests there!
If I hadn’t skipped thru the credits, I would have seen that, Island Park is in Nassau Cty., and I confused the two. Thanks for pointing it out!
I just watched this. I am going to go find the link for that nest to make sure that baby is doing OK.
Thank you CarolV for sharing..that poor thing would have died for sure….
George was on the eggs from about 5:30 till a minute ago. He had flown off briefly, but Jane must have been off somewhere. Each time she had come in, he just ignored her, no matter how long she stood!
Wonder if he’s off getting a fish so he can get the eggies back?
Despite the wind, there is already a fog bank lurking across the bay…….
Constant change to the forecast… currently predicting showers/thunderstorm between 10pm and 3am; again about dawn. Temps 67 now, dropping to 61.
Saturday has improved…. partly sunny and 70s…. we’ll take it! The only thing happy lately is the grass! Growing like weeds (which …it mainly is!)
The Oyster Bay osprey cam already has two eggs hatched.
Little cuties!
15:35…. Fish delivery….. Jane is ready!
…..George just drops the fish and heads for the important stuff…….
Jane is back…….
………at least these two eggs will be easy to tell apart!
Jane quietly cheeps and gets ignored…… she moves up to where George can hear her!
Out he goes.
George uses the debris for eggies trick again…. they’ve been playing musical eggs and he just left! He has to shove Jane off.
She’s more interested in a fly-by and circles right back to nest, to alarm loudly…
George decides to fly just as Jane was taking off, making for a beautiful flurry of wings! Jane went, with George right behind…..
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George brings in a double load of seaweed and can’t wait to arrange it, but Jane is in no hurry to go…
First, he pushes her out of the cup; then, he practically gooses her to get her to move along…….. she finally gets the message!
George carefully spreads his seaweed before settling down.
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If anyone having trouble signing on………. I used to be able to just type ospreyzone.com in the 3rd box. but it needs a more formal address now…. use….. http://ospreyzone.com
I had the same problem. Luckily it saves it for the next time!
I don’t know if it’s my computer but sometimes it doesn’t… which is only fitting, because I have the same problem!
Me too…did not understand at first URL Ha…have not used Http:// long time…as Paula said you only have to do it once and saves it..
Looking forward for egg 3 tomorrow…who know could be tonight…
Jane’s trying to nod off…. but keeps popping up to scan sky…
Temp 65 under cloudy skies… not getting too much warmer…67-68. Bit of a wind @10mph… Rain possibly starting 8ish tonight.
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Close up without feathers….. another gorgeous egg
Beautiful!!
Really great shot of eggs…
Good Morning All,
I like the new format at the top but I’m wondering if the video’s of George and Gracie are still available or if they are just gone?
Also, it would really be nice if you didn’t have to go all the way to the bottom of the page to post a comment! Just a thought!
Thanks for the feedback. Highlights section has all the old streams and will be growing. Plans are to produce lots of footage over the coming months. As far as putting the entry screen for comments on the top, I have wondered that myself, i’ll Ask Aidan if possible.
I appreciate all the feedback and comments.
Paul
Thank you for the reply!
Have a great FRI-YAY!
Thanks for the rearranging…… like all the improvements you’ve been making, especially the video summeries!
Also, the input of new comments more immediate…. also nice!
Thank you very much..its great…
George brings Jane breakfish and meets eggie#2
Jane is back….. nice long break..
May 29- Egg 2 at 6:45 am. Jane might lay another on June 1st but these first two eggs were laid so far apart, so who knows!
I haven’t seen many mating sessions lately… I was wondering about a 3rd…. guess we’ll have to see
Wow 2nd egg 5 days after 1st..guessing around 6:45 this morning…hopes she sits on eggs longer….
I’m hoping all that time off #1 may have slowed down development of embryo in #1 so they hatch closer together….. but we can only hope and observe
I hope so also. What I really hope for is that the first egg is not viable, that the second egg is, and that Jane lays another in 3 days. The hatch spacing between #1 and #3 would be such as there would be very little chance for the last chick to make it. We shall see, fingers crossed.
That was exactly what I was worried about. The little one wouldn’t stand much of a chance if they do hatch in order. So I really hope the first one doesn’t hatch.
Feel the same way..I really dont see how 1 will hatch..it was left so many times without coverage…as always this nest very interesting..stay safe all..
Two eggs!!!!
6:45 I think….. in the rain…… Go, Jane!
Jane shakes off the rain…. eggies from another view… Jane’s keeping the lid clamped down…
George comes in so Jane can take a walk in the rain….
When she comes back, she has a stalker…
Jane came in and redid some of George’s nestorations…. like any wife.
The quiet was broken… Jane had to jump at an intruder that flew right above the nest…… She almost fell over the side but caught herself…..
And @17:27…another fish…. no response from Jane….George just stood for a few minutes before leaving
I keep wondering if the “intruder” is Jane 2! I haven’t been able to really tell if it’s male or female. It seems very persistent.
@15:49….. Jane cheered in this big fish! Maybe she’s glad it’s not fluke!
George brings some seaweed while Jane amuses herself
Was at the arboretum yesterday watching the osprey. Nice to see so many. Most times you hear them before you see them. They do the alarm call a lot. The ground is littered with rejected? Fish. Good size whole fish with its head nearby. Fish head fish head rolly Polly fish head. Anyway…there are a couple of nest in trees. And I’m sure some of the osprey are from platforms along the road.
Flotsam and jetsom certainly covers some of the things we’ve seen in various nests!
@08:31…. another fluke, bigger than before!!!!! But Jane’s not interested…..
It looked like George wanted to go to eggie, but the fish got in the way…. He was slip-sliding around…. I wonder if he needed Jane to pull it off?
He took off.
Jane was right back in.
Breakfish 2, take 2……… and rejection 2…..
George did a side hop toward eggie and decided to go…
9:45…. Jane just ignores him and stays put
AND ONE MORE TIME! and NO….Jane flies…
George gets challenged and flies out… at least the fish is off his foot!
Mary, Mary, so contrary! Jane comes in, spots fish and takes it to go.
George gets to do a spruce up and sit on eggie.
Nice catch!…you and George….that egg matches Jane
CarolV…rewind not working on you tube either ☹️🤬
Huh… that’s too bad! Strange.
Pest…. coming and going…..
stuck…. stuck…. STUCK…. had an exercise session for her neck getting that off…
@06:49…. George appears with a nice fluke…
…as Jane approaches, George takes off!
Jane finds a nice piece of bark and starts to nibble on it. She doesn’t seem to see George slip back in behind her….. maybe the bark is tasty?
Jane decides fish is better and gets that nice fluke to go….
she was back by 07:14
Temp is 65 now, only rising to 67-68 under overcast skies…… or so they say for now. Hoping for some sun
There is one osprey chick on the PSEG osprey cam in Oyster Bay. There are at least two other eggs.