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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
San Francisco Bay 🐥🐥…🐣?…..cuties!
Love the flowing “locks”, George, rippling in the breeze……………
Hello, Thursday. Gonna be a nice, sunshiney day!
Started @5:12 when Missy appeared, George a few minutes behind. There was a brief alarming session til George went out.
He came back at 6:22 with the big fish he turned over to Missy.
And he settled on the eggs.
Missy’s back and George has left the nest for her.
She moves a board…. and out.
Enter George
And M’s back and pushing George out….. she doesn’t stay long….
And G is back….. this may go on all day.
If she can learn this part……. oh, well…. that annoying phrase that always fits…………… It is what it is………………….
Ground Hog day…..it is what it is 😉
It’s 9pm and George is tucked in tight……
I think he stayed til about 11:15pm.
George was settled in til Missy came and pushed him out. She did her hover thing and left…
He came back and so did she…. but this time, she just stood there for a while then flew upstairs….
@19:13….. Fish is in…. with Missy doing the song and dance…
She carried it off in her beak… and it’s bigger than it shows in that shot.
But she flew a circle over the bay and went to perch. Sounds like happy noises …..
She’s making me nervous playing with that seaweed……
The video keeps jerking and greying over…. I would too if I were that wet.
More rain…. George stuck it out till the showers stopped…. Of course, the nest is soaked.
Missy is doing her thing
@16:28…. George brought a fish for Missy and was trying to see the eggs before she even took the fish… Off she went..
Then George started excavating….. he moved a few small sticks to get them out of the way, then started on that glop of seaweed/kelp. Part of the problem was he had to stand on some to get a good grip…..
He worked for more than 3 minutes, pulling and re-pulling the intertwined strands…
He moved more…… he could see the eggs and tried out the cup.
Still not satisfied, he moved more and finally settled on the eggs…
I think Missy is up on the perch.
From this angle, the eggs appeared to be covered. George pulled at some seaweed, then took off.
Missy landed this double footful on them….
Earlier….
George brings one of his crazy branches….
He chats with Missy for a minute and barely clears her on the way out….
Skies have been quieter but ,,,, not empty
Missy rearranging furniture…
Is everyone else seeing this?
A busy break…..
George shakes off the rain
Unloads …..
Goes shopping….
He may have had a quick visit with Missy on the perch… shaking camera.
Then back to the important stuff.
George gets up… covered in raindrops….
and a huntin’ he did go…
@11:28, he did a touch and go…. was back minutes later to put fish aside and settle on eggs.
Here she is…..
There she goes, with a little side “salad”
George has been on the eggs most of the morning since he arrived about 5:48.
Missy is doing her usual stand over.
It’s not a great morning. About 50, Chances of showers, clearing for a while, then maybe passing showers in the afternoon and again later tonight. Just a blah day.
Sounds like a good night for some fun with tacos!
Looks like at 2:27 AM she was at nest
A look at the three eggs. She must have laid the third one overnight.
It’s too bad not a full moon….maybe now she will sit on her eggs…hoping for the best…congrats…do we have a official name for her?
I haven’t heard anything back yet, June. I hope you’re right, but it doesn’t look as if she has much interest, if any, in brooding.
It amazes me that she clearly knows where to lay her eggs, but not what she needs to do for them afterward. Shouldn’t both be equally instinctive?
They don’t necessarily go together. I’ve seen animal shows where something, like a wolf, knows where to den but then can’t care for or even abandons, the pups. They don’t seem to click together automatically.
We think so, but apparently it’s not, not in every female. They are all so different. Some females take a long time to understand what they need to do, and some never seem to get there. That female osprey in Patchogue last year, she knew to brood the eggs, take care of them but when that first egg hatched, she had no clue what to do with that chick. She was stepping on it, standing there looking at it and finally she settled over it, but she had no clue how to feed it or that she even should. It took her almost 24 hours before she figured it out. Our female here, she seems to have very little maternal instinct. Hoping something clicks in, but it needs to be soon.
It’s just such a shame that a great Dad like George can’t seem to find a female even close to what our Gracie was. I just hope this isn’t a repeat of Jane’s first year. That was hard to watch George trying to do it all.
I read somewhere the instinct to brood is strong
Couldn’t find the article
Here’s other info
Maybe her hormones are out of wack…I know mine are😜
I was watching til 6 :30 ish this morning…no moonlight…cloudy…than rain..couldn’t see there was a third egg
I would like to send a drone with a pruner attached to cut the stick in front of eggs!
George…when feed started jerking and freezing
Admin Mary Anne …. Can you review the video to see if you can tell last contraction or do you just want to pick a time… maybe 3am?
She was in 2:20-3:11 ish
She was there til almost 3:15… I’m wondering about 3:13:13…. auspicious number….
I did scroll back and look for a while. But I to leave for a bit. Will review more, but I think it likely was shortly after 3 am.
Very pretty eggs this year!
Yes.. …inspired to do eggs like them
I think Chesapeake bays eggs are always this color
Hopefully they’ll hatch!
Pic of Chesapeake Bay eggs
Your eggs are amazingly realistic, Isabella!! Beautiful job!
Thank you ChrisH 😊
Thanks Mary Anne!
Pretty sure the darkest one is the first
So keeping an eye to see if it hatches
Too funny…. I just started thinking the early morning visitor might have been Missy laying the 3rd egg. Watched it and it looked like a possibility. Refreshed the page and see yes, indeed, our sharp eyed students had spotted it! Good work, kids!
Here they are first thing this a.m. So #3 was laid between 2:20 and 3:10ish this morning. Just difficult for me to see as far as contractions. for the exact.
Thanks! They are very proud to have discovered it this morning.
Starting to rain…..moody blues
The students think they see a third egg in the live feed!
They do! Thank you!
Great discovery students. Keep watching and learning about ospreys.
Someone was in the nest between 2:20 -3:15…… probably George because it looked like they were settled on the nest.
Missy flew in just before George and his 5:48 fish delivery. He then stuck his tailfeathers in front of the camera and all we saw was the ghost of Missy leaving.
And George settled in.
She arrives….fish….helllo George
Sits on eggs….feed starts to freak
Night watch
Hope your day is a fiesta!
Mmmm…..dinner ideas 🌮🍹🍮
Tacos on my mind…..
Someone just left the nest….couldn’t catch it in time…maybe CarolV can scroll back and see?
Can’t see the eggs anymore
I think George left right about then. Eggs were partly covered by nesting
@19:20…. a small fishtail…… Guess George was hungry! Or, benefit of the doubt, it was a small fish…..
George hooks himself in…
And she’s back… no fish. Looked like a snackfish…
Our girl looked so pretty, all fluffed up. Something was getting her attention.
@16:48…. dinnerfish. Missy flew in a few minutes after George and took the fish ….
As she flew out, streamers flapping behind her, George stared after her.
Missy was back with leftover fish…
George decided he needed it, even though Missy tried to hold on…… Turnabout is fair play…. Now Missy takes it back! And ate to the last fin.
They hung out peacefully
More of the same…. trading spaces, occasional delivery, some mating,,,,
Showers forecast overnight. lows 48-50…winds 5mphENE.
Tells George she’ll be back in a minute….George comes down from perch…sits on eggs about a minute
And back up
TY, George….. wondering where you were…….
These two are a comedy act!
Missy is at her post near the rim when George flew in……. as George stepped to eggs, Missy took a step…. and again , matched steps…. then George settled on the eggs so she took off.
So here she comes with something to barter…. and George turns over the eggs and heads up….
She puttered around then headed off again.
And George came back down.
It;s as if she knows she should want to be there but doesn’t understand why…..funny, not funny.
And it’s continuing…..trading spaces
George doesn’t miss a beat…..geez George…she just landed!lol
And again
A little alerting…a little alluring
Is this thing on?
George tuckered out
Working on another egg to break our hearts….. I noticed yesterday was particularly busy…
Since brooding is so sporadic I have doubts that the eggs will hatch. Does anyone else feel the same?
Don’t know…… but here’s some info
George came and went with his fish…
Mr. Sparrow hopped by and was borrowing some nesting when George showed behind him….
George is back with his fish
Fish forgotten, George goes for the nest cup to nestorate….
Missy comes in but sees the fish and isn’t interested.
Missy was looming over George.
He stood up, going toward fish. Now Missy wants the fish. So George floats to the perch.
After he’s up, Missy sits for a few, then takes off with the fish.
And George comes back, to HIS nest.
Hard not to think he did it on purpose!!!!
A lovely morning at the Zone…. sarcasm….
George didn’t show til he drifted in with a fish @5:50.
Missy ghosted out with it…in the fog and rain
And Missy is back…….
It’s ok, soggy girl, it’s ending soon.!
Something interesting happening over there!
Drizzling at my house…. supposed to get to East Marion in 15 mins. or so. Chance of showers throughout the night, Temp 54, dropping to 48…winds ESE8mph
Kinda like the grasses……..we got pummeled with rain up Island
Missy taking off from perch…. you can see her in top right.
And, yes, those flapping grasses are a bit annoying, but at least we can see through them
@18:09….. Another fish… and George drop it off his foot and practically slid it over to her…. apologizing for shorting her on the last one? {;^}}
What new annoyance are you installing!!!!!???!!
We got lucky …. as he took off, George’s wing swiped it and almost knocked it out of the nest…
@16:00, George came in with a fish he wasn’t ready to give up.
Missy tried to take it but he wouldn’t stop eating. He flew back out. She went too.
G is back…. no Missy. He gobbles as fast as he can….
And here’s Missy. She got here before it all disappeared.
Before she’s even out of the nest, George is moving to the eggies.
Until now…she comes in to protect the nest….George alerting from the perch
George sits on eggs…she nudges him
Somethings up?
George leaves..she comes back to hover
George brings seaweed..intermittent egg sitting
I love when she nudges and pushes him! She’s got that down!
Thinking this is her….only a few minutes later George mated
Knew that stick would be back….I must have missed it being cemented in
George adds another stick and leaves
And as far as I know….nest has been empty since
I guess we all must live and learn. George was a rookie once too; I recall he had a hard time fishing that first year? Gracie showed him the ropes, and now he’s teaching this newbie. The circle of life happening right before our eyes.
Yes…and George was not himself last season….who knows what is why and why is what?
I’m not here to judge or bully
Those two eggs are so different, we could easily have kept track of who’s who ….. sssiiiigghhhhh…
I glimpsed Missy landing then looked away to comeback to someone snuggled on the eggs…. of course, I got excited….. then rewind for this quick exchange……
@11:44, another fish! George slid in behind Missy and we didn’t see much except talons and tails…..
And George wiggling in.
Missy(bottom) echoes George…. still adding to the nest.
And they are mating often.
HEY! Get a room!
Maybe Missy’s hormone production is so low that her interest for the eggs only lasts for a short time after the eggs are laid. Possibly due to her age? We can’t really know but certainly can’t hold it against her.
Doesn’t make her a “bad” mom… just unready.
While disappointing, be prepared. That warning about nature being brutal can apply here, too. These birds are not here just for entertainment. They are living their lives . It is a learning experience for us.
Carol— your second paragraph is a great way to say what we have to remember. Thanks for all your photo scaps. You and a few others do a great job posting the pictures.
Thanx, nfc… appreciate that.
George is usually such a good brooder, hopefully he will fill in the gaps while young miss figures out what to do. I think she is afraid to get too comfortable with all the incoming.
I think he would be on those eggs every minute he could but she seems to be pushing him off and then she just stands there. She certainly doesn’t seem to have a clue!
Missy delivers some bedding and shows where wonky feathers come from
George wows us with a SECOND fish! One hour after the first… the fish must be begging to be caught!
Missy and her wonky feathers take it happily.
Yes…. I’m back here…..
Look who’s back front and center
And Missy comes in, with George right behind…. literally
Good Morning, Monday!
Missy gets breakfish….. George gets his happy place…
Missy’s back. Little interest. I’m watching her now and she is cleaning around the nest cup ….. and nothing…. not even a hover
Why is she not incubating the eggs?? Can someone update me what is going on with George and who is this new female? She must be young if she does not know what to do….
Yes, you’re right, she is likely young, a first timer and doesn’t know quite what to do. She brooded a bit, I hope she starts brooding most of the time when she lays a third egg, if she does.
Thanks Mary Anne! I guess we have to hope for the best!
Seems like she doesn’t want to or know how to incubate the eggs….hope this is not a total disaster….
You’re killing us, Missy!!!!!
This hovering makes us think – hope- you may actually brood those eggs!
And off she goes…….
2 eggs and no one is incubating?? What is going on???
@16:38…. George brings a fish and spots the eggs.
He dropped the fish and couldn’t get on them fast enough.
When Missy finally flew in, she came so fast, poor George was startled and fell on his face trying to stand!
She took off and returned a couple minutes later. This time George took off.
Missy is in her place on the rim.
The fish is still there.
George came for the fish and flew out.
He was back with the fish and an eye on the eggs.
He gobbled down some of the fish before settling on the eggs.
Then, Missy showed up. I’m not sure she sees the leftover fish that’s there, unless George is covering it. She’s wheep-wheeoing at him.
As she wheeped away, George stood up and pulled out the fish, chomping on it. Missy came and pulled it out of his foot. She stayed on the nest to eat what there was.
Turns
Working on #3?
She learned this part!
She stood over G until he pushed her away. Then, she walked around and pushed him with her chest till he flew away ,,,,,
She hovered over the eggs and settled on them a couple of times, but something seems to be catching her attention.
She took off @15:38
And there goes all my excitement as she just hangs out on the side of the nest……
Now that there is egg #2…will she get proper name?
Isabella, I haven’t heard back yet..
Thanks Mary Anne!
Happy to see 2nd egg,,totally different color…congrats to family..
Maybe the first egg wasn’t viable….they know more than us
George steps on her tail….she moves out of his way…he sits on eggs
George broods eggs…she broods George 😊
So cute !
Thank you Trinity!😊
OH….SO…. Close!
quiet cheer…….. yaaayyyyy… bit by bit!
George has been in a couple of times and Missy stood.
Fortunately, he didn’t push his way in. She stood but went back down when he flew off……. small yay!
I took a good look and realized that was George in that bottom shot.
He is quick! He brought a big wet leaf and “requested ” tAT SHE GET UP. sHE HASN’T GONE FAR….
Pardon the caps… I wasn’t shouting just oblivious.
Except for a couple of short stints, George has been on the eggs since he came in with that stick.
He left about 12:45 to fish and is back at 13:16 with lunchfish.
Missy just stayed on the nest without going back to brood.
George is back on the eggs as Missy flies out.
Missy’s back, fish all gone . Someone flew behind her, drawing George out of the nest.
She is getting it finally, fingers crossed.
George shows up….. with a weapon!
Poor Missy , who has been doing a good job, was forced out….
George meets the new one and makes it feel at home….
Two eggs! Don’t know when second was laid, but Missy was sitting on them just now and then stood to show them off.
Joy, the second one was laid at 10:02 am.
And we have 2!
10:02, I believe
Is this a sit or a low hover???
I think she rested on the first egg for a bit… Let’s see if this lasts. hopehopehope!!!!!
Could hear George alarming and she stood….
Then settled back and even tried the hook&snuggle move she watched George do……….
Can see the eggs slightly better here….. and she snuggled right back on them……
Almost sitting on the egg….but almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades
Then trouble starts
And continues
Fish break
George egg sits
Does standing on egg count?
Btw …George stepped on egg ..couldn’t catch it in time…believe it was during alerting
Nookie break
Alerting
Does hovering over egg count?
George adds to the nest….resumes egg sitting
Resumes hovering
Having screenshot problems again. Working on it but no photos.
Missy was in early and poked around the egg. She fought off someone who was trying to land ….
George brought a fish @about 6:27….
Yay Me! Fixed…. by stumbling around as usual…
Just a few shots…
Missy & George early a.m….. back to back…
Fish came in….
Missy back…. seemed like she got to enjoy her fish without running home.
George is the best Osprey Dad I have ever seen!
I just hope he survives being Mom and Dad again.
Mother Nature keeps setting up these beautiful backgrounds…………….
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Sun is setting , the Lady is having some quiet time.
Missy came in and started working around George. She pushed him out of the cup.
She was primping and fluffing around the egg and even got to the “hover” over it.
George came in and Missy seemed to watch as he fluffed the egg and then did the “hook” in . Hope she’s taking notes.
Dinner is served @18:09…..
Missy dropped from the perch and out……
And George finds his happy place………….
Love the light… and those blues! The breeze is gently ruffling her feathers….. a few moments of serenity………….. George is upstairs
George came in with a fish @14:36.
Missy didn’t seem too interested, after her found fish earlier. George said… fine, I’ll just leave it here.
Then headed for his first interest… eggie… Missy seems to be watching him as he fluffs around the egg.
After a bit, she took the fish to go…
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After not being particularly hungry, Missy managed to polish off that fish to the last fin….. she brought the end bits back to eat here.
This appears to be a compromise crouch…. not on, not off the egg…. baby steps….
Missy decided to grab that fish that’s been lying there since about 8:30. Should be nice and chewy ! It was stuck on to some seaweed but she wrestled it free.
Room temperature fish …. yummy 🤤