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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
Just went back to find why the view of the eggs had improved…. one of those moments of “how could I not have noticed?” We have Missy to thank!
Missy wants to make sure we get her best angles 🌟
@6:47……. George is in with a fish….. Missy came in to claim it and went up……
George hauled a branch in but mercifully left it over on the other side.
Forcing myself to do some photo weeding……
I often forget just how dark Jane was! 6/13/18
Meanwhile on the west coast
Good thing Dad added another stick….these chicks are on the move!
Oh, look! Another couples’ brood! And our little lady is perfecting her techniques on how to jump on her mate! She does make me laugh, tho!
Missy tried her Ninja technique but George saw her coming and got out of the way in time……..
The pest is on overtime today! George went after it.
Just wait til I get my wings on you!
The winds have picked up today….w14mph…. but at least it’s sunny and temps rising to61. Still below normal but we’ll take it!
That plastic on the far rim is dancing.
Just wanted to share this from the Oyster Bay nest. Looked like someone wanted to have the nest but the other wouldn’t move. So cute….
Dealing with an intruder….. It flew right above them (you can see wings at top of frame) and must have hovered
Missy was right up at the camera and George yelled behind her……… good thing they were both there
After things calmed down and George was snoozing, Missy flew in and George looked carefully to be sure it was her
Wednesday morning…. Hump Day AGAIN! Didn’t we just do that?
No one stayed on the eggs overnight…………………………………. Missy is in just before 5.
I see that one annoying stick is down, but it bounces back up as soon as it realized we were here.
George in with a fish @6:29. Missy raced in to beat chant him in.
M comes back with a double footfull of seaweed. She didn’t disturb George’s happytime.
It appears as if the female at the Patchogue nest has gone missing. Eggs were alone all last night, from 6:25 pm. The male arrived this morning early to brood, but he left at one point and the crows are around. He is back now but it’s just a matter of time before crows take them. Very sad.
That’s too bad. They were a successful pair. Wonder what happened.
She might have been hit by a car, is my guess. So sad.
Thought of that. And all those wires…..
My husband drives through the Oakdale merge to and from work….at least 3 times an osprey flew right in front of the car
Went to arboretum yesterday….heard osprey but didn’t see any…doesn’t look like any of the nest there are occupied
At home we usually see them fly over every day….it’s been quiet for many days
There are so many things they have to deal with….cars, boats, raccoons, other osprey etc
We seem to be off to a sad season already 😢
This pic is 2018
I don’t see a pic, Isabella, it’s showing blank for me. Amazing that they fly so low at times, but they do! At least the Oyster Bay pair seems to be doing well.
Oopsy
A couple of my favorite pics
George zonked out
New Mate has been somewhat obsessed with this stick…..move it!!
She’s a funny girl………
Her latest assault to get George up…………… Mind you, he was gone for about 25mins. and she could have come down then.
This was very deliberate and certainly did the trick!
George was removed and she assumed her position….
Snakfish @18:52…..
Thought she was headed to perch, as usual….. but she shows up behind him heading to the left
And she’s back in 10 mins., fishless. Just a quick stop as George got down to business.
@15:48….George comes in with a big fish, looking around for Missy………………… she hurries in a minute or so later and gets the fish in her beak and surprised me.. and maybe George…. by flying out.
George settles in . Then, here comes Missy, flying for the perch, and happily the fish was still with her.
Happy eating sounds and George in his happy place.
Missy came back, with a nice crop.
And George… well, we can see where he is.
Seen George brood eggs….haven’t really seen him roll them?
George brought tribute to exchange but Missy wasn’t interested. She’s in hover mode.
George tried sliding in maybe hoping she would move but…no.
He only stayed a minute. He’ll be back.
I would have thought Missy would see him brooding and take a hint…… I made a comment that when Missy took parenting classes, she excelled in swaddling (all the seaweed wrap) but was absent for incubation class. I wonder what it will take to make the connection?
George’s peace is broken with an intruder…..
It flew right over, fish and all. He went out after it.
There’s an egg out of the cup… George hooked in right next to it but he’s not seeing it.
Not that it’s likely to make a difference.
Missy was alarming….. looks like George came in to back her up
This is going to be a repeat of Jane’s first year! I just hope George is up for it, he is a few years older.
I really hope he starts eating more of the fish Missy insists on him providing for her.
She really is spoiled. Jane at least fished for herself most of the time.
Thanks to everyone who posts the pics and updates. I find the rewind annoying and only do it when you guys let me know it will be worth it!
If you can, go back to 7:24 am, with an oblivious Missy and a stumbling George.
Missy, when you’re done chewing on that stick, could you shove it overboard???
Breakfish @6:36….. Missy took upstairs…. another big one!
Missy is back with leftovers….
Yesterday was tail feathers…. today it’s wing…..
It’s going to take a wing…tail… and a prayer
While waiting for George…..and moving the grass
She kept stepping on the eggs 🍳
Her way of brooding?
She was getting annoyed and yanked on front stick
Was hoping she would move it
Super sized breakfish coming!
Hmmm….maybe I should have eaten more
New Mate took it to the perch….still complaining
Just shut your beak and eat!
Sitting on scrambled eggs
Catching a cat nap 💤
George stayed on the nest all night. Missy rousted him out about 4:50. But all his hard work will be for nothing, since she’s not doing her share…………… my pictures won’t open so can’t post any till I figure that out.
Got some use back…yay!… Missy pushing him out. Waiting for her breakfish order….
Now no computer. So much for fixing by myself.
Will work on this
Night shift
Looks like spent the night 👍
New Mate shows up…nudges George to get breakfish
Walks on eggs
George comes back empty taloned
Looked like the poor guy went into a coma…. he hardly moved, from what little we could see!
George brooded for about 1 1/2 or more, flew out about 8:30…. that’s fairly normal. Then he came back and was nicely settled in.
But Missy showed. She stood behind him till he left….. and now she will leave, too.
which she did.
Oh, look, he’s back! Let’s see how long he stays…………….
Hi All,
I was shocked when I read about the 5 eggs but at the same time thrilled that hopefully at least 1, maybe 2 will hatch. Missy has seemed to get a little better at incubating so maybe, hopefully she’s finally done laying and now she’ll want to incubate the way she should. Finger’s crossed!
Some sun before the day is done…… George is alarming.
Pest patrol flew over, annoying George.
Cloudy overnight, dropping to mid 40s.
Every time I peeked in…pretty vignette ….sky , the bay
Nest is pretty right now
In this pic looks like 4 eggs
@18:42….. Dinnerfish…. BIG one!
Missy took it to perch…. can hear her up there….
Missy was bringing in all kinds of stuff today….. here’s a lovely clump of kelp…..
She even tucked it around the eggs…. no wonder we can’t see how many eggs are there. She pulled some of it off…
George has cleared some of the stuffing from around the eggs,
Each of them has brought in clumps of that dark grassy seaweed.
Missy is crazed…. some more kelp that came in and back out. That nest is crowded!
These birds have an interesting take on “ nesting “ in preparation for the babies 😀
Love wing pic 4!
Apologies for posting wrong screenshot before. Same comment – somebody tell me I’m not seeing FIVE eggs??
I just posted one. It sure does look like it. If you scroll back to 10:20 and watch, she has contractions and is grunting. Final contraction about 10:21:25. She fooled us as she did not stand up for a while and we couldn’t see the egg when she did.
Amazing— I thought I saw at least four this afternoon. George and the new female have been busy. Now all we need is some incubating. Maybe we can have a hatch!!!!!!!!!!!Fingers, talons, and toes crossed. Thanks to all he people who post the pictures. Your stories are entertaining as the nest drama!!!!!!!!!!
I think I need glasses…because it looks like five eggs.
That was her 5th egg that she laid but one of the earlier ones was buried. Guess it finally got uncovered….
I didn’t see that! It’s hit and miss on sighting those eggs,!
Laid between 10:15 and 11:15 ish today
Maybe why she doesn’t want to sit on them….she’s backed up with eggs!
Enough George 😬😜!
Thank you dear Admin,for this incredible info,really thought it wasn’t possible,but wowzer, our OZ soap opera continues…😳
Yet another gripping episode of “As the Egg Turns.”
Hope it doesn’t turn into the show
8 is enough!
Holy moly 🙀
Somebody tell me I’m not seeing FIVE eggs??
Look at those clouds! And the line of sun that is sneaking thru a break in the clouds, reflectied on the water….. pretty spectacular for a gray day!
Missy sees George coming….
Fish delivered @12:14…………………….. and there’s someone right behind him….
Intruder flew right over…. Missy wasn’t interested in eating so George had a few bites .
Missy took off and George had his eggs.
Is he counting???
Missy came down from the perch to grab that fish; headed right back up there…
George having a snack….sitting on eggs
Why does it look like 4-5 eggs?
Never mind egg with green dots…saw George standing on it
Egg with purple dots?
New Mate comes and goes with fish snack
George is off to guard his territory
Wind must be picking up….bay was like glass….now slight ripple
Looks like the Easter bunny was here, Isabella….
Here we go again….. I’m always suspicious when Missy broods for any length of time…. sat for an hour before a flyover got her up…. I’m seeing 4
Maybe a little clearer?
Bottom shot…. she had the 3 by the front foot, one back behind the other foot…
Have I mentioned how much I dislike that frickin’ stick?
Maybe once or twice. :>)
It made me laugh when Missy flew in and suddenly decided this “chair” belonged on the other side of the room.
She struggled to work it loose then flipped it over her head, to snuggle it in on the other side…
With a very brief egg sit to follow….
For some reason, Missy likes to have a foot on an egg
And she’s a beauty when she defends her nest
GM, Missy…. GM, George….. Hazy Momday morn…
As George sits the eggs….. SURPRISE!!!!!!!! @6:15, Missy shows with a partial fish….
I went back to see if I had missed a delivery or any leftover fish on the nest and found nothing.
What I did find was Missy leaving the nest @5:34 and circling down to the bay and what looked like her skimming the water
So it looked like a little roll reversal….. and George was fine with that as he headed to accept the fish……
But Missy wasn’t sharing!
Just noticed my spelling of ROLL in role reversal….. I’d like to pretend it’s an egg reference but……… carelessness
Hi,I swear I see four eggs @1:54pm
You do. Likely laid three days after the last overnight when we didn’t see.
Just like this pic
George watching New Mate fly off with fish
Looks like his “hair” is blowing in the wind
Then back to the eggs
An even quicker turnover…. Missy was right on George’s tail… and the fish’s…. when he came in @16:11:14…
Knocked several seconds off the turn around time by getting out by 16:11:22!
Missy is lobbying for the spot.
And they are alarm calling, George from the nest cup.
Add to that the wind is picking up and whistling across the microphone…… just a little noisy!
Wind is up to ssw16mph…. chance of a shower in the next hour. Increasing likelihood of rain into tonight and thru to morning. At least it “s warm at 63.
We had a beach gathering in memory of my Mom and got the advantage of that sunny morning.
M finally chased G and he’s just a dot in the sky. And then she left. Her job is done.
Glad you had nice weather!
Thanks! It was a nice gathering, especially since first time we all got together in a LOOOOOONG… time
This came and went so fast I had to run it in slo-mo to get pics! George came in; Missy plopped down from the perch and did a grab-n-run…
Fish at 13:10.:o6….. out by 13:10:20……
Happy healthy Mother’s Day wishes to all!
🤙🏼🤙🏼🌈🧡
Osprey communication….. when being ignored, walk on his tail….
Take your time and be sure to hit ALL those feathers….
All that for 5 minutes…. sheeeeeetz!
Tip toe through the feathers
Looks like the fish are changing over from bunker to blue fish, which must be a welcome change for the birds.
Happy sunny Sunday!
Looked like Missy was on the nest early. Not sure when she came in but started getting glimpses of movement just around midnight.
George was in for an early morning “meeting”
Breakfish @6:48. Missy was starving and had the fish and out in seconds…..
George straightened up a bit and settled in the sunshine.
Hope everyone has a day to enjoy!
Thanks, CarolV….wishing you the very same!🌸🕊
Right back at ya…and. Happy Mother’s Day to all…
Oh, yeah…. the rain we weren’t supposed to get….. surprise!
Supposed to blow thru by midnight,,,,
Temps mid 40s tonight. Clearing to a sunny/ partly cloudy Sunday… may hit 60.
Missy was harassing George till he moved along…..
She yapped in nest till minutes before George came in…..
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@17:28, George brings the fish but Missy is out… possibly on perch.
There was some commotion with a flyby…………………. George puts fish aside and heads to the bowl
Missy plops down ON George. She has to harass him till he gets up before deciding she wants the fish…..
She took the fish to the perch…. and George settled in
Usual osprey afternoon…. ins and out..
George takes the fish; brings some back when he returns…. left on back of nest
Missy was in and out…. did some preening
Sometimes, I think she just likes his company
And of course, a flyby….
There was a fish delivery @11:41…. nobody home but us eggies…
Missy is behind him but goes for perch.
When she came down, she ignored the fish and pushed out George.
She flewoff to come and go with this chunk of goop. She flew up to perch with it still stuck in her foot.
George came back to get comfy and keep the fish company.
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Oops, der it is…….
Wish they’d stop playing games! Now you see it, now you don’t!
around 11:40
Missy iced a stripe across that back left one earlier
Not to be obsessive but…… I think there’s one buried there…. Maybe Missy spent part of the night on the nest to lay a 4th egg
George was trying to tug on this (arrow) as he fluffed ..
I see what you mean, it does look like it, she would have laid it three days after the third. Sadly, not that it matters, as they are hardly being incubated.
I know… not gonna have 4 chicks fighting each other, that’s for sure.
Maybe George is just gonna keep trying till she gets it right! They were mating again.
She needs to start brooding and I am not sure she is going to come to understand that. It may be too late already. We shall see. But when you think about it, if she does not have a clue, and George were to somehow brood enough that just one egg hatched, I don’t know if she would bother at all with a chick.
I thought of that, too. Just hope George stops trading spouses so we at least have hope next season!
As clueless as Jane was, she at least had the brooding down and, after her initial reaction, fed Squirmy enough to give George help. I think this girl skipped her Child Rearing classes.
That’s what he gets for continually courting younger women.
Did we get another egg last night? I think I see 4?
Carol took a very good look, does not appear to be 4 there.
Sorry, Mary Ann…. ever indecisive….. not that it matters, but maybe…
This shows it slightly better….. looks smooth
Thought that was another fish for a sec.
George just wants the eggs back….
She’s not quite ready to clear out….
A bit overcast on this Saturday morning…. may be a quick passing shower but most of the day just cloudy. Mid 50s.
George was in @5:15 and went straight on the eggs.
Missy came in @5:44
Breakfish @7:16
Missy went up to perch with her big, juicy fish
Do I see for eggs or is the bottom left just bedding?
I think there are still three…
Thanks… not that it makes much difference… poor Missy…feel sorry for her…. and George
You’re right. George was fluffing and there’re his toes in that spot.
So do I, much more for George though. I think she is young and has likely not experienced having chicks before, so she probably isn’t missing anything.
Someone on the nest
Shhhhhhhhhh…… That’s Missy!
She;s been waiting for a fish….. surprised none came in….
Wonder at the possibility of a 4th egg?
George came with a fish and Missy’s not interested…. He even took a bite …. then he flew.
Missy’s restless,,, has gotten up several times and I figured that was it… but she’s still there…
9pm…. video is flicking off and on…… but she’s still there….
11:07…. she’s still there
Looks like she stayed till 3:45ish…
And at some point, she was upright
Missy disagreed with this stick….. she kept going after it , in between skywatching….. and she made it better for our view!
And that skywatching paid off… challenged someone who made a double pass. It sounded like George yelling in the distance as support.
George is upstairs”visiting” with Missy….. accompanying chirps and camera bounce to accent the shadows. I ‘ve heard them more than a few times
Just when we we rejoicing at the removal of that stick..
George brought one that thankfully made it over to the far side….
But he wasn’t done………….. must have flown straight down and back with this monster……
Ahhhhhhhh…. job well done…….
I’m convinced that he is actively trying to block our view. He knows we are here and he doesn’t want us watching him and all of his women.
Hey, bird watchers, can anyone identify that species? {;+}}
C-130 from: https://www.106rqw.ang.af.mil/
Thanks! I”ll note that in my audonon guide! ((;^}}
My husband, the aircraft buff, says it’s a C-130.
Our warrior Prince and Princess…..
No audio…..
Never mind! Just found another way audio can be unknowingly muted…. dang! Too many choices!
@8:32….. George shows with another fish…… settled in with the fish behind him.
Missy came in , saw the fish and just stood for a while……….. she went out and came back with seaweed which she put right on his fish!
George couldn’t see burying his fish, so he went behind her and took off, fish, seaweed and all…..
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George was back, once again, carrying that fish…. he settled in
This time, Missy grabbed the fish to go.
Friday fineday! No rain on the menu!
Missy beats George in to say GM…
He did a clean up before he went fishing…
@6:29, breakfish by George…..
Missy sings him in and goes…………… he gets eggie time
Minding his own eggs
Later on busy chasing
Returned with a snack for the pantry
Settled back on eggs
Bothered by fly overs
Hi All,
Beautiful Iris on Hellgate nest laid her first egg last night. Just know it will end badly, like the last two years.
Here’s our Gorgeous George needing a brooding female and there is Beautiful Iris needed a providing male.
Too bad we can’t bring them together!
What happened to male that fertilized egg?
Louis? He has with another female downriver, this is his third year with her. They raised chicks to fledge in 2019 and 2020. But he still mates with Iris.
Yes and he chases of any potential new mates for Iris!
It’s so sad to watch her fabulous genes not get passed on to another generation year after year!
He’s a gigalo with a second nest…
Gigalo is harsh and wrong…. he’s just in demand
Missy was going all around the nest, trying to move large items, testing all the big sticks.
She was on tippy-talons trying to pull something near the far side …..
She even had a modified chest push and a moment in the cup, chasing a waving grass……
I know, too little too late…. but she was cute…….
And she flew up to bed
Well if George brooded eggs enough..and she takes over..may have a chance
It ain’t over til it’s over
Missy was in a couple of times with the fishtail…..
George decides to go for it…. it was so firmly stuck on her talons, it took a 22sec. tug o’fish to get it loose!!!!
He left till Missy flew, then came and finished his snack in the nest
Now that’s a pedicure!!
Leaving the fish, George clears the nest cup and gets comfy….. within minutes, Missy is wheep-wheeping behind him…… that face says it all!
She moved upstairs, still complaining. From up there, she spotted the fish laying on the other side of George.
She jumped down to get it and went to perch to eat………………….. George can relax in quiet!
@15:43…… George is back with another fish.
Someone, I thought Missy has been on the perch. But she flew ouy over the bay and circled back and hovered over George, then back to perch……………. a little strange.
George took off.
He was back in a few and acknowledged someone on the perch. He decided to eat right there.
Sorry for reoeat….
I don’t see any eggs…where are they?
The cup has gotten deeper and there are grasses around it. George usually digs them out when he decides to brood. But it’s not looking likely for chicks…
@13:51…. George brings a fish. He hasn’t been in for a while…… he looks around but no Missy.
Fish got put to side.
He was just getting comfortable when someone dove in to the nest, sending him flying…. and he didn’t come right back.
Missy came in to stand on fish….
Someone is flying around, getting her upset.
And now she’s yapping, as if she’s calling George, while still standing on the fish….
Oh, hey! Forgot there was a fish down here! Bye!
Missy has been in charge, either on the perch or keeping the eggs company.
One lookie-loo flew over, to M’s displeasure.
Lookie-loo😆
George egg sitting
New Mate perch sitting….with 🐟