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Belle’s Journey
Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky
Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
I keep cheering #3, who I’ve nicknamed Junior, on at feeding time. He looked like he was doing good this morning.
Love this site. Thank you
Good afternoon. I am new here. Which is the mom of the two? Do the mom and dad take turns feeding? If the smallest chick dies, will mom have another or is she done for the season? Is this a reasonable amount of chicks or is it heavy/light compared to average? What is the water in the distance? How old before the chicks start to fly? Do Ospreys mate for life?
Thanks, Becky
Hi Becky, thanks for the questions! The mom is a little larger than the dad, and spends most of the time in the nest. She seems to do most of the feeding. They will not have any more chicks this season, and three chicks is fairly common for ospreys. They will start flying 7-8 weeks from hatching, so maybe at the beginning of August. Ospreys usually mate for life.
Thank you so much. I appreciate your time and the beautiful Ospreys.
Coming in back to back.. L headed to perch.
A blushing sunrise turns to a symphony of fairies!
Together time
George has been in and out several times working on the nest but this one got the better of him.
He had to fly around at least twice trying to get height… And then it slid right back out!
if she dosent get enought fod she will die…..they will kick her to the side…i know she was born 3 day after the first to but…..SAD
Little one didnt wake up for the 5:45 feeding? When he did wake up…he tried to eat from his siblings…no food for lil one ?
well 600 pm feeding is heaet breaking, the 2 big birds are on top of bird #3 he did not get any food this is so not right dosent she know she has 3 kids
I have to post again! so at 5:15 dad comes home with no dinner! gracie is not happy! babies are up looking for food. George leaves and comes back 20 minutes later with a fish for dinner! Good Job Dad! So
Today #3 is one week old! Its amazing how much they have grown over the last week. It has been fun to check in and watch the feedings. It looks like all 3 are flourishing and are going to be ok, even little #3 is eating well. Too bad he is 1/2 the size as the other 2.
It seems they are now following mom around the nest. Where ever she goes they seem to mosey on over close to her. Now I am worried about them falling out of the nest.
hopefully the smallest will survive but unfortunately as with many raptors, although i am not sure about Ospreys, many times only the largest two will survive and the smallest will starve to death because the larger ones will take all the food or be pushed out of the nest. mother nature can be cruel and hopefully this time all will survive.
I am so worried about the little runt…why doesn’t Gracie help the baby?
Rocky seems to be getting a little stronger!!! I was worried for awhile, but I think ole Rock will make it!!!!
OK, never mind. One decided to go on an adventure. Spunky little devil. He’s back with the other two now. Whew.
Oh no. What’s happening to one of the babies? Looks like it rolled to the edge of the nest.
Hope the one of the larger babies didn’t just fall out of nest.
thank God Gracie has decided #3(which we call Brenda) is a girl and needs a little more attention, fed her real well today and only hope her strength grows. Love watching these amazing birds. #1 and #2 are not to nice to Brenda but she is beginning to fight back a little and if Gracie keeps feeding her she is gonna whip some butt after the abuse she has taken.
The little one has gotten feisty and tougher. The bigger ones do not mess around when Daddy George is in the nest. Let’s call the little one, Pee Wee, after the Mickey Rooney character in “Boys Town”. In the movie, Pee Wee was,at first, picked-on by the other boys,but over time became everyone’s favorite.
I anyone else having a hard time viewing this morning???
Chin up little Pip! Dont let your siblings get you down. You have to squeak louder for Mommy
Sometimes George is sitting on the camera box so he’s there the entire time but just out of shot. In the afternoons you can see his shadow looming over the nest.
They did a great job cleaning and tidying up the nest. See the plastic bags are gone. Love tuning in to this often during the day.
It’s breakfast time. Two of the chicks have grown much larger than the third. So, for breakfast, they eat while sitting on top of little one’s head and not allowing him to eat.
yes much better this morning even can now see te pin feathers starting to pop out
Wow. Baby # 1 is H U G E! I hope Baby # 3 will do OK. They get awfully close to the edge. Beautiful & scary at the same time.
A similar scene for the 5:40Pm fish. The little one didn’t get a single bite. Very upsetting to watch. I hope ot fed at other meals.
Baby #3, who I have named Rocky, was front and center this morning at feeding time and ate very well. He appears to be getting stronger and I think I even saw him nibble back at baby 1, who I named Gigi, when she tried to take a bit of the offered food. WTG, Rocky. Fight on!!
We call #3 BRENDA not Rocky We believe she is a female and needs more attention than a Rocky would
I think Ole Rocky is going to be OK!!! Lets hope so!!! I’m rooting for him!!!!!!
the little one, the runt, didn’t seem to get any food at this evening feeding …. I’m rooting for him … but sadly I don’t think he is going to make it. Too bad the parents, with any bird, feed them most attentive ones who are screaming for food … but I’m still rooting for the little one ….
I already do that. What just happened?
If you miss a feeding or want to see what’s been happening while you were away you can back the feed up by moving the slide bar to the left. I love this feature. It lets me see feedings.
I saw the notice about scrolling … But there is no bar visible on my screen. Any suggestions?
There should be a red bar at the bottom of video window, try using a different device, might not work on some mobile devices.
Thanks. I’ve been on my iPad, I’ll try a computer.
Hi the red scroll bar only appears when i watch from my smart TV not from my cell phone… Both devices are Samsung
Hope this helps
Tho for me, lately, the video is freezing a lot
Maybe your pixels are set too high for your screen?
Did anyone see a fish brought in or know if the little one got to eat?
Yes, the little one got fed and is fine.
Did the lil one flip over yet?
Yes, the little bit righted himself.
Did the little one flip back over?
Its so crazy how I found this website browsing around. Its amazing what you find on the internet these days LOL
What’s with half-a-fish.??? Does George dine first and then brings in THE LEFT-OVERS?
Gracie is such a good mother. NR 3 WILL MAKE IT – I just watched her now before bed time and she really catered to the little thing – now I can sleep well. Rodee
Oh good so he did flip over?
Sometimes George eats first. Sometimes Gracie yells at him and takes it while its still flapping around…lol. So much fun to watch this Osprey family ?
Where has George been all day? He’s been gone a L-O-N-G time, which is quite unusual. It looks like Gracie is worried & calling out to him. It’s dinnertime for the babies & George hasn’t come back with any fish to eat.
Sometimes George is out of the cameras view because you can hear him and sometimes you can even see his shadow on the nest. He probably perches on the tower behind the camera and sleeps there. Like when Gracie leaves to get sticks…or plastic bags for the nest…lol
Wow. Is Mom off the nest?
It looks like the little one has been fed, the crop looks fuller. Can anyone confirm?
The big chick has become a major bully
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Little one has righted itself. Whew!
Happy Father’s Day George
The little runt got its’ belly full today, so glad to see it (she) was up front and fed first. I didn’t see it fall backwards but I’m sssuming it was from a very full tummy.
So good to know – thanks for the post. Thought the crop looked fuller but nice to have confirmation.
wow one chick struggled for over an hour on its back unable to turn over. finally Gracie went over dropped a twig on him and gave him a nudge. He Flipped over.
They are really moving around the nest today! The little one has flipped onto his back, i sure hope he flips back over soon ? (I saw this happen in another nest and i watched in horror for 2 hrs but it did eventually make it back over). It is awesome to be able to watch nature but it can also be hard.
yes it was kind of sicking watching the little one trying to flip over finally got off,could stand it any more happy to see its ok so far.I could tell its crop was full so had plenty to eat .
Nice to see the lil one eating! and eating! and eating! 🙂
The two larger chicks have ventured perilously close to the edge of the nest on the black plastic. The tiny chick is on his back and flailing about frantically.
The little one is struggling. Is that why the other two have moved away?
Looks like #3 chick isn’t going to make it…sad…
The little one seems fine. He was flipped over for a while, but seems strong and good at getting his share of the food.
Oh thank goodness. I was unable to watch for a while and didnt know if he made it back over. Whew
Is that little guy stuck in the bowl??Looks like he cant get up out of the hole
And now the little one has fallen on it’s back and can’t get up.
Oh dear, is Mom eating trash and feeding trash to the babies. It is definitely not a fish.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! ?
The stream is so intriguing and I find myself checking in many times a day; it’s super cool on my 55 inch!! ?
So fascinated by their behavior ie collecting a bag for shelter; who would have thought!
I am now an official bird watcher and it’s so much fun.
Yes, please, perhaps when the nest is empty (might that happen in the future?), a partial covering can be erected? I imagine the ospreys enjoy the sun ? but dislike the relentless rain…☔
12:24 PM Central time. The annoying plastic bag just blew away from the nest after a gust of wind. Hallelujah!
Thanks and greetings from Vienna Austria 🙂
I’ve been able to copy still shots using Print Screen but does anyone know how I can copy video clips from the live feed?
Anyone know if those white “thing’s” starting to infest nest and ospreys are ticks? Any suggestions ?
I first called them “buttons” on the osprey that helped with the fish because he was loaded, now I think ticks.
I just want them all to live.
SOMEONE FEED CHICK #3!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy father’s day George! Hope you have a birdie day! Make sure Gracie feeds chick #3!
Yes, he even pecked at mum and then mum moved away as if to say “there now, none of you will get any, until you calm down”
I’m still worried about the littlest baby, #3, as to whether he’s getting enough food. I don’t know if the two larger siblings are keeping him from eating or can’t he see which way to turn to get his food. Wish there was some way to make sure he get’s the food he needs!
Yikes! Anyone else see the wrestling match between the older two at breakfast? I’m so glad #3 wasn’t involved. One was actually biting the other!
If fishing is challenging due to the storm, the babes are likely hungry which contributes to the competitive attitude. The more fish, the less bonking going on.
The more fish, the less bonking going on. Could be it’s tough to bring home the bacon in this storm.
I saw it. They are getting big and aggressive. Was glad #3 stayed out of it (though he was in the middle of it)! He better grow before they fight with him like that!
Yes, I also saw the 2 older ones fighting! I was worried about #3 also. I was surprised that they were so violent at such a young age. This site is so educational and I can’t get enough of these birds……
Wow! The rain is so heavy now. Poor dear Gracie continues to sit. And, while it rains, there is very little if any food being brought by the male; despite Gracie’s repeated calls for food.
can we please build them an umbrella for the rain tomorrow??
It’s been raining most of the afternoon. The smallest chick doesn’t look so good right now as Gracie is feeding the other two. One chick is now about twice as big as it is and sitting on top of it. Can only hope that it will survive.
This is my fifth day and a lot of the night being mesmerize with these majestic ospreys. I’m born/raised in S Fla. and have seen a lot of birds, most are just pretty and not like the ospreys. Thank ALL for such a great experience in my retirement…
Now, what happened to the handsome male that continually got fish in a snap when George couldn’t and his leg’s got pretty banged up yesterday getting Gracie fish? He has like little buttons on his coat and resembles Gracie.
Any windshield wipers on the lens? LOL
They seem to want plastic in the nest.
What a joyful sight to wake up to. The mother really catered to the little one (9am) , which seems to be getting more frisky.
Then there was another pair in the air nearby and she immediately stopped the feeding and sat on top ….. such sweet motherly protection. Rodee
I thought I saw one bird actually flying in with the plastic bag and then cover the babies briefly. Unbelievable. They are smart enough to know that a sheet will shield from the elements and provide cover even if it is a plastic bag.
I was really worried about the little one, but after tonight, that little one is tough.. During dinner time, he was being smothered by his siblings and couldn’t t up. The others were eating and he wasn’t. But he didn’t give up and he finally broke free and Mommy fed him really good… He is really small but he or she is tough..
Should we be concerned for “Gracie”? She seems to be losing weight and looking quite ragged. She also is not standing on her right leg very well at times. “George”, on the other hand, looks very rigorous and sleek.
Gracie hurt her leg yesterday, (on top of being sick and weak) looking for a fish George did not bring. The other osprey also hurt his legs really bad, but boy is he dependable. George isn’t ready to do his part feeding his family.
Wouldn’t be wonderful if the human race took care of their children as this two great parents do?
It’s so funny you say that because I just said to a friend of mine today that every animal in nature, except humans, know how to raise their babies. No other animal goes to parenting classes or to Lamaze or anything like like the way human beings do. And the other animals do a great job at nurturing their young.
Happy Early Father’s day George
I think there is always a “runt” in every “litter”, so to speak. I think it happens in all animals species that have multiples at birth. Poor little #3 is being pushed down, sat on & having his (her?) head jammed into the nest. It did fight back & get some dinner from Gracie though. I was happy to see that. I’m so glad a friend told me about this site!!
Earlier this morning, both Mom and Dad were away from the nest for a few minutes leaving the little ones alone. For a minute or two there were three heads bobbing about crying out for food. Then, the one runt of which you speak began pecking at the other two siblings until they laid flat and didn’t move. A little bully forcing out the competition.
Maybe, FINALLY, the little one is getting strong enough to beat on his/her siblings!! Bigger siblings have to beware when they bully a smaller one and then the smaller one grows up—-they don’t forget!!!
I can hardly watch the feeding, only one is being fed. The runt is trying but I’m afraid it won’t make it.
Unfortunately, plastic is everywhere; this is not an isolated incident. Take a walk along our shoreline- it is littered with plastic! The best thing you can do as a concerned observer is to avoid your use of it and ensure the proper disposal/recycle methods of the plastics that you do consume.
Did the plastic bag fly up and get caught on the nest or did one of the ospreys bring it in?
I watched one of the birds bring the plastic up to the nest and actually cover the babies with it, it blew to the side and there it remains. I believe it was the day after it rained all day and #3 was born. I’m wondering if their saving it for another rainy day? It’s on disk and will be included with the highlights eventually. So far we’ve been able to record just about every minute since June 1 and are planning to go through it all this summer and will publish everything here.
Wow that will be wonderful!
Can’t wait…. thank you!!
And if you need any help going thru the videos….?
Gracie brought it back to the nest and tried to do something and push it in the nest but the wind blew it, so now it just hangs there.. But she tried
George came back without anything, Gracie is not happy. You tell him.
I have not seen George come back with anything since this morning except a stick. I imagine them to be quite hungry by now.
Just found this fantastic coverage of these wonderful birds hope they do will will be watching their progress,we have also Ospreys nesting here in Scotland one nest sight the female has been nesting at the same nest for over 20 years …….Eddie.
I was thinking the same thing! How about that sibling rivalry! pecking at each other, and then cuddling the next minute. Little #3 is even standing up for himself.
The next time one of your people climbs up to the Ospreys, would he/she please remove the plastic Mrs.Osprey unsuccessfully tried to make into a blanket for her kids ?
Unfortunately, we can’t get up there without both George and Gracie’s authorization! Also, the nest is 80 feet up, so it isn’t easy to get there. Maybe they are saving it for a rainy day.
They will not be climbing up to the nest. Once the nest is occupied it’s usually a no interfere situation. Hopefully in time the plastic will dislodge on its own.
Sorry for my post I didn’t notice is was answered all ready.
Oh I see the 3rd!!! He was hiding under his brother/sister
The last couple of days mom seems to be scratching and picking at herself. Is this stress?
i think its that bag stressing them out. i wish someone could remove it from nest.
I only see 2 babies!!!???
I do not get anything done around here, but then all else can wait. This is totally mesmerizing. Nr 3 is sad to watch. Hope for its survival. Father and mother’s interaction are almost human. Her vocal chords tell stories. Now they are building higher walls in anticipation of their starting to wander.
KUDOS to the creators of this most amazing project and THANK YOU for letting us all share in this experience – I am blessed and enriched. Rodee H.
I do not get anything done around here, but then all else can wait. This is totally mesmerizing. Nr 3 is sad to watch. I hope for its survival. The interaction of father and mother is almost human. Her vocal chords tell stories.
KUDOS to the creators of such an amazing project and the kind spirit to let us all be part of it. THANK YOU. Rodee H.
wow talk about stress…that white bag whipping around crinkling. Gracie flew and stretched her wings. First time I have seen her do that