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Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.
IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Hello Paul,
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
charles.
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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com
June 18 @ 7:45 p.m.(EST) of course as soon as I said that the fogging the right side was where we didn’t get a great view anyway which is true but it now has become the area of choice for Gracie and the babies for some time now. DiD George return with that huge fish he briefly brought to the nest about 5:06? I have scrolled back but haven’t seen him return and Gracie has been calling for him for a while now. So that means no inner tonight?
7:36pmEDT 6/18 Well, I did the scrollback and am not sure if there was feeding happening. Something was happening in the blurry zone that looked like it. I’ll have to wait for afternoon comments to see what went on today.The timeline on the video is 19:30:18(10 min. slow) so I don’t know if there is a glitch. George just came in (to blurry zone) and Gracie is chirping like he might have something.
PHIL: I did a quick reply after your 8:43am post, if it fills in..just wanted to add this year’s statistics,so far,on 4 other sites I check in on….one nest..3 eggs, two hatched, one chick stolen by predator(prob owl) and 3rd egg destroyed by female….site 2..4 eggs, 4 hatched, 3 died to unknown causes, possibly virus or parasites(only a few days old)…site 3 3 eggs, 3 hatched, 2 chicks taken by magpies….site 4..3 eggs, 2 hatched, 1 chick having possible impairments, 3rd egg still in nest, prob not viable. I’m sure other sites all have their own stories.These are just some I happen to have stumbled upon.
And no rain in forecast…..
And gosh darn it!…the almost full moon and clear night…..and the blur….bad timing, naughty chick, bad timing………
CarolV: If we could only see into the future we would have appreciated the little blur!! (We were warned, though … although I think the tottal whiteout occurred before anyone thought it would!! 😀
Good bye clear lense. Hello chick poop!!
3:17pmEDT 6/18… Well,,,,,,,,,, so much for the clear view. Saw the wind up, aim and shoot ( on rewind). And the best part was the big glob that peeled off and fell..yum…
June 18, 2016, 6:38 pm. I cannot see chick #3. He might be under Gracie.
June 18, 2016, 6:42 pm. It looks like George is trying to help Gracie, because she looks quite tired and sleepy.
June 18, 6:30pm Ugh. What happened today ? Why is right side of screen unclear ? This morning it was crystal clear.
Scrolled back to see at 3:15pm Chick no 2 squirts the glass in front of the camera… lucky it was only on the right side…
June 18 @ 5:06 P.M. (EST) George brought in a huge whole fish about 2 min. ago, Then left with it guess he will eat the head then bring it back. The fish have been so big I wonder if the Riverhead Aquarium has left one of it’s tanks open?
Well there goes the right side of the lens!
June 18 @4:40 )ES) well at about 3:20 baby #2 who I call Ali (like it or not ) squirted the right side of the lens so it is now fogged up. It is not going to rain soon and it is going to be unusually hot for June around here this coming week so no chance of it being washed off any time soon. Luckily it is fogged where we do not get a great view of what is happening there anyway (lower right hand corner) This entire baby naming situation is so silly. I am calling them Frasier, Ali and Rocky. Those are the names I will submit if we have a contest. Frasier and Ali because they go at it like they are in a boxing ring and Rocky because of his spunk, determination and will to succeed. The final determination will be made I assume like last year by a baby naming contest and then I will abide but the decision made after the voting.
@ 3:17 the oldest chick amined right for the camera and got one side, so there is a blurred area for now until we can have some rain wash it off.Little one had a wonderful 2 pm feeded all by it self.
Lots of nest restructuring going on by Gracie – first she lifted big piece of garbage bag to corner, where hopefully the wind will take it.
Next she moved a big stick to the edge of the nest the chicks seem to favor, to heighten the barricade. Baby has stayed close to or under parent, better to be away from the two big ones. Showing very good judgement.
Ok…. Which one nailed the lens?? (16:07 time frame)
June 18th – 15:17- Chicklet # 2 did a #2 and took out a third of the camera lens…uuuugggggg
LOL nice poop shot from chick # 1 at camera lens!
3:17pm, either #1 or #2 squirted the lens, now we’ll need a good driving rain to get off the baked “shizzle”.
I think one of the osprey family decorated the camera lens on right side. I may be wrong.
OOPS! TeeHee, first camera lens squirt of the season!
June 18, 2016, Chick #3 got fed while the other two chicks were sleeping/resting. I think Chick #3 looks good and stronger, even though he is smaller than the other two. Maybe he will catch up in size later on, even though he is a week behind the others.
They really seem to have a “pack” mentality – all the chicks want to be huddled together and seem to know where they stand in the “pecking order”. It is fascinating to watch the dynamics – I was not here last year – this is my first time watching osprey cam but I am very much enjoying it and can’t take my eyes off. I am so pleased to see food is bountiful! Thank you to everyone here and especially those who made this possible!
2:15 PM – baby getting fed almost exclusively by mom. They were all a little too close to the edge, just looking off into the distance. All getting along.
I would like to name our babies WINKEN, BLINKEN AND NOD. THEY ARE TOO ADORIBLE. THANK YOU FOR THIS AH HA MOMENT.
That suggestion was made a couple of days ago. I thought it was adorable. That would be great!
I like that option. It had occurred to me as well.
The little one is getting pummeled. I can’t take it. I will check back in a couple of days and Ill pray in the meanwhile.
OMG. I hadn’t seen that happen. I figured the 2 older ones were too busy pecking each other, they would leave the little one alone. 🙁
Geez. Nos. 1 & 2 seem to double in size almost daily ! No. 3 is coming along but he sure needs to catch up !
I posed this question yesterday but my post seems to have been removed. I was wondering if it is normal for Ospreys to hatch three chicks and have one underweight and not survive, or is it just bad luck that this pair have had such a problem two years running ?
Ospreys stagger the laying – and consequently hatching – times of their eggs to ensure that the first born has the optimum chance of survival. The last born will always have the smallest chance of survival.
I used to watch the nest at Wertheim a few years back and they had success with 3 normally. One year she had 4 eggs and let the youngest starve. What I have noticed is that she had her brood hatch around Mother’s day and left for the south right after Labor day. This nest seems to start very late. I don’t know if that is what makes the difference.
I’ve been watching several osprey nests for years, phil. This seems to just be a 2-yr bad luck streak w/ this pair. It’s not so much a matter of being strong & healthy, as much as when the chick is born compared to it’s siblings. #3 is fairly healthy, it was simply born later than the others. Okay, perhaps it’s a bit on the “runt”-ish size, but it should catch up to the others. At the Dyfi nest in Wales, the 2nd of 2 chicks was a bit of a runt, but it caught up to it’s sibling after a couple weeks. As I said, it’s just bad luck. If you look at the Hog’s Island nest over at explore.org, you’ll see that Steve & Rachel have a clutch of 3 quite healthy chicks.
Phil, most osprey nests with cams that I’ve seen seem to have 3 eggs. Check out the osprey nest cam in Audubon. Steve and Rachel have 3 chicks. Steve brings in an average of 11 fish a day. Very different. There doesn’t seem to be the fighting. Although George is definitely bringing more fish this year than the last year.
Phil..others will probably answer you, who know more than I do, but I don’t think there is a “normal”. I believe I read that chick mortality is something like 50% in the first year ( I don’t know how that factors as for the first 3-4 months). I have only watched two seasons, but visit several other sites, and our couple are doing pretty darn good so far. This is only their 2nd year as a breeding couple. Having viable eggs their first year together was good. Having those 3 eggs all hatch AND raising two of those chicks successfully, in a bad year(food supply wise),,,,,possibly, a mini-miracle.
As I said, no expert, just an observer, and obviously a fan of these two birds.
Hey, “Tammy”: I’ve been thinking … you watched my video, right? And you didn’t say anything nasty about it (and on YouTube you didn’t either nor did you dislike it) so you can’t be an all-around, all-around horrible person. Why DON’T you stay and watch OZ (OspreyZone) – you could really learn a lot. And, I sincerely mean that, without any trace of irony or malice. They truly are fascinating to watch!!
George stops by 4:44 …leaves come back around 5:21 fish with head..small..
Babies all fed..geoege comes back 5:30 with another fish with head leaves..comes back with headless fish eats fish himself for a while Gracie gets up about 10 min….Gracie feeds all again…
At 6:20 George comes back with another small fish…
4:44amEDT 6?18 George arrived in the nest, chatted with Gracie, surveyed the waters and went off to pick up breakfast. He brought in a medium sized fish @ 5:11am., which Gracie tried wrapping in plastic.The two big peepers were right in there getting pieces of the face, so Gracie didn’t even wait to feed herself first. Trey is still sleeping or just laying low
And George is back @5:21 with FISH #2 !!! Looked at the size of first fish and the size of the kids and knew there would be no leftovers !!!.He took off again to eat in peace.
Trey is up and getting a share.I think he benefited from the shoving match between the two amazons.
YOU ROCK,George !!!TWO in ten minutes !!!!!!
Gracie just did a quick breakfast, then herded the peepers under her (as best she could) while George came home to eat in. Gracie’s fish still off to one side.It is a little chilly-57′-so guess she wanted to warm the kids.The day looks good-high 70s-so sunburn the only concern.
AND the pest is out early…5:41 and the are both alarming. Jeeezzzzz, pesty, sleep in, why don’t you
HAGD everyone !!!
This a.m..I had a quick peek before I left, to see that Gracie was taking George’s fish, while the remains of the first one was still laying to the side….His was fresher? by 10 mins?
Reply-Ospreylover are you referring to one of the babies or a person??? Were you watching last year?
Ospreylover June 17, 2016 at 10:19 am
GREAT…..Now there’s a bully in the nest ?
Checking in on babes, George i applaud!, working very hard and providing for family-Gracie with the lots of TLC/both doing a great job, chickpea is growing i see ;-)!, been so busy at work & didn’t get time to see them for a couple days..was exciting to see how much they’ve all grown so fast in such short time 🙂 and getting well fed makes a difference..i see alot of new names to this site joining in on comment list. Hope all can settle in and enjoy this amazing privilege!!! We have some great people on here that are dedicated to making this experience fun ,exciting, & educational for all keeping it with all due respect in PEACE. God Bless our Ospreys! 😉
Oh BRE what a wonderful name for baby 3 “CHICKPEA”. I love it ! What do you say everyone?
Kathy
Amen
Around 7:58 p.m., with the sun casting a shadow over the nest, I could see George’s shadow of him with a big fish on the perch. Finally, he came to the nest but still was having a difficult time with it. Chicks #1 and #2 came to check out the activity. The first was real interested and came up to the fish, but then George took off with dinner. He returned a few minutes later with the fish, minus the head, and Gracie took it for the babies. Our little friend ate quite a large amount. Yippee!!
Pecking and sibling rivalry is actually a good thing for these birds. It teaches them how to defend themselves. It’s hard to watch but in the grand scheme of things, the birds are better off for it. Food has been so plentiful here that the pecking has been under control. Little one is the smartest little one I’ve ever seen, and I have seen 3 chick nests. It knows to stay out of the fray and it’s bold enough to move to the front and also to fight back. All good signs that this one is here to stay!
8:01 – three chicks snuggling together without tension. Good to see!
Reply Gina M -I totally agree love the saying marching to his own drum!! I think so far we count ourselves lucky there is no food shortage and it seems if Ronnie and Sandy would have had the fish supply we have this year pee wee might have made it. They only fought when it came to food. However the babies this year are fighting for dominance. I do worry about bb2 and bb3 still a lot can happen as you know.
I just saw a video even though I did not enjoy watching 3bb and 1bb didn’t stop fighting tell he killed the other sibling that was the same size as him or her. Don’t know if it was because of food shortage or not I just goggled Sibling rivalry of ospreys how depressing sure happens a lot more than I thought. I know its nature not complaining just didn’t think it happened as much with ospreys as I know it is more common in Eagles since we do have a lot of Eagles around here.
Gina M -Comparing it to last year, the baby chick #3 seems much stronger than PeeWee was. He seems to be very independent, staying on his own side of the nest, marching to his own drummer so to speak.
I think it will fun to see three of them grow up in that nest. But I also think it will be harrowing to watch because the sides are so low that before long we will be asking Paul and Tommy to build a net around the base of the nest! 🙂
Any news on the comment system, i like instant stuff, that’s new technology.
All have huge crops again from last feeding. So happy fish are plentiful !
Reply CarolIV- pretty much they do stay in my area. That does not mean all stay but the ones I watch do. You can see and hear Ospreys on any given day. The thing I hate the most is not knowing for sure if the family living on our lake on cell phone tower dressed up like pine tree is for sure the same ones that built the nest.
I do enjoy seeing them flying w a fish but they don’t always fish at the lake. Atlantic Ocean is real close and St Johns river about 1 mile. From experience the nest in my lake they will be on their 2nd set of babies around August I think.
Sometimes u see the Hawks and the juv Ospreys all fishing and flying from tree to tree making their noises.
But good with the bad today it is 108 degrees even with 14 mph wind it’s just hot wind. I can’t even swim to long in my pool and costs a lot money in summer to keep adding cold water and AC running. Our Ospreys are use to the weather.
Rjoneal…do your osprey stay all year? Since they had their broods there, there is no need for them to fly north, I guess, but do they “vacation” elsewhere? Always good to see your comments..Hi, by the way..
loved the 6:30 feeding.., today I saw #1&2 fisticuffing,, then little fiesty # 3 keeping his own for a round, love the nest building too, hugs to all,bless this site!
Betsy….you did have a bug zapper on board the nest package? I’m getting dizzy from the swarm…poor birds have to live with them!
CarolV: You come up with the BEST ideas!! 😀
This is the second year in a row that there have been two strong and one weak chick in the nest. Is this a standard pattern of production or is number three just an unlucky number the past two years ?
I saw chick #1 pancake today — this morning — for the first time. And chick #1’s eyes have also started to change to orange for a couple of days now … best seen in the afternoon and when s/he is closer to the camera — there’s a tint of orange.
6:00pm George is on perch with a fish..you can hear him munching and see the shadow…Gracie is getting impatient.
6:06pm George drops down to the nest with his prize, but he’s playing keep away. Not quite done with his share, obviously…one chick is going in to observe..I’m guessing #1..soon being backed up by #2..first chick moving in closer and making snipping beak motions toward fish. That was more than George could take..He flew out and up to perch, but thought twice about it and slipped down to nest @6:12. Gracie takes over and dinner begins.
Trey is still sleeping @6:23 while the amazons eat. His crop is still huge and I know he can only hold so much! This fish looks good sized, so it will probably be back for re-runs if he doesn’t get ant now.
And up he popped as I typed, wiping sleepy eyes on sib’s rump, heading for the trough..room for him now that one has tapped out and other slowing down.Correction, 1 back in the game, but Trey is jockeying for position…He is really capable of swallowing large pieces now, and taking them as fast as Gracie can get them past #1?…who just passed out. I’ll be honest and say I’m having difficulty with #1 & #2 and telling them apart…So if I guess wrong, it will just be a repeat of last year.
Michael G…
Great idea for names. Finally a voice of reason. It has been very disturbing reading the recent comments. Viewers who can’t wait to point out someone’s mistake and petty remarks. My final comment last season was to say how thankful I was to all who who had made this remarkable experience possible. I also thanked all who had taken the time to post such informative and witty comments . What a difference a season makes. Where is the appreciation and the nice, thoughtful, witty comments? Let’s get back to where it was!
All of the chicks this year seem to want to hang out at the edge of the nest, they are all dare devils..much more so than last years chicks. Maybe they will take flight sooner.
All the fuss over the names is silly. Some seem to have a name they prefer. Until it’s officially done I’ll call #3 as I like. I started calling #3 peewee just as I did last years littlest one, because it is so small it fit.
Although it was very sad what happened to the wee one last year, the youngest is still a peewee to me. I’m hoping it had a good feeding day so it will hurry up and grow. The oldest ones are growing leaps and bounds.
4:58pm Gracie’s addition to the nest almost took out two chicks in the process. !!! Too close, mama!George was inspired to go find a stick of his own to add. And Gracie’s off again. And back with another stick……..Well fed family means some construction is in order.
G&G seem to be taking turns bringing in nest additions. Think they read your comment, Gina M? It popped in just about the time they started nestorating!!!!
Is there some reason the camera position wasn’t fixed over the off season? I mean come on!!
The very dopey George blocking the camera. 4:39
Or Gracie
Earl Hafler: They take turns!! But that time, yes, it was Gracie!! 😀
Robin, I, too, thank you for that link re wildlife rehabilitators. I have also bookmarked it. I was so upset two years ago, because there was a fawn residing on a busy parkway in Suffolk County, Long Island. When I first saw it, I called the police department. They said other people called about it, also, but nothing was being done about it. I tried another agency, to no avail. About a week later, I heard that it got hit by a car. It broke my heart. I couldn’t believe there was no organization to help a baby deer. Its mother must’ve been hit by a car and it was lost. So sad.
Betsy & Marlene: Your welcome! I am the same as you – someone else provided the wildlife rehab link on another cam site and I too bookmarked it – it is good to have if needed or to provide to someone else. Marlene – so sorry re the baby deer – it is terribly sad for them – there are A LOT of deer on the east coast and I see many of them along side the roads (both dead and alive). I agree it is heartbreaking.
I don’t know if this group was on the list, but the founder especially loves deer and probably could have helped. They are called STAR; Save the Animals Rescue. They are in Middle Island and are great.
4:28 pm Gracie looking right at the camera with her chicks off to the side.
Hi how is everyone? just checking in to see how Lil Bit and the sibs are doing.
I just took the tour of ospreycams and am feeling very grateful for the tranquil nest we have right now !!!! Between predator attacks, illness, eggs not hatching…it’s been a rough year ! The Sandpoint nest had two out of 3 eggs hatch and now it appears one chick has some physical issues. They are waiting to see how that pans out. The healthy chick was watching a maintenance vehicle rolling around the baseball field below it, like it was watching TV..Too cute !
BETSY…I’ve been recommending your video…with the disclaimer”No ospreys were harmed in the making of this video”.I laugh each time I watch it….
Here I was talking about tranquility when the G’s had an intruder alarm..George was upstairs and they shrilled in unison. I got a good photo of George having Gracie’s back…you can see the shadow of his head in profile on her back….
4:20pmEDT George brings in a fresh fish whole. He is trying to get a few bites of fishface before handing it over. Gracie is standing next to him and chatting at him, but not frantic.I see two passed out pippers so I guess there is no urgency on Gracie’s part.
I like the way that upper left corner is like a little veranda.Congrats to the architects. I don’t like that it seems to have become a habit for Gracie (and George,too,sometimes) to stand in front of the camera. Very rude to us peeping toms! OK, she just turned and looked right at us! She told me !!!!!!
It looks like George is feeding a chick, according to his motions, but I just see Mommy osprey back. It would be Trey, as Uno and Dos are flat-out asleep by the “veranda”.
I swear, every time I type something about her, she looks right in to the cam…good thing I’m not really paranoid !!
4:40pm Gracie takes control of the fish as the big pop-ups awake. It seemed that when she saw them immediately sparring, she went for the fish. As she moved, I could see that George WAS feeding Trey all this time, so hopefully, that is one stuffed weeble…George moved upstairs as Gracie starts feeding the raptorettes.
Can we get the comments updated faster I mean this is just aggravating. Thanks
15:36:15 Baby 1 & 2 at it again..close to edge…little one smart, close to Mom
5:14pm I just read that it is instinctual not to get to close or to jump before they’re ready. But I guess we worry more about that blasted wind!
Dear Group
I was doing some Biographies concerning George Burns and Gracie Allen and their children, Ronnie Burns and Sandra Luckman. It seems that George and Gracie had Seven Grandchildren. Three Boys from Ronnie
(1) Brent
(2) Brad
(3) Bryan
And Four Girls from Sandra
(1) Grace
(2) Laura
(3) Melissa
(4) Brooke
In keeping with the Legacy and Family of George Burns and Gracie Allen, we could possibly consider the Names of their Seven Grandchildren as possible names for Our George and Gracie’s new family.
It is food for thought and May Cut down on some of the heated discussions
We are really and truly Good Friends here on this Site. And myself and the majority of other Ospreyphiles don’t want to see Other Friends quarrel about a name
So if we can, let anyone call Chick#3 whatever they want, we all know who they are talking about until their names are Official.
Mike
Good research Mike!! I had another name picked out for chick #3 (secret — haha) but one of these would most likely win — in keeping with the family of George Burns and Gracie Allen!!
The little guy is certainly older and much stronger than the poor thing from last year. I feel positive this year!
The little one seems to be stuck at the edge of nest
Comparing it to last year, the baby chick #3 seems much stronger than PeeWee was. He seems to be very independent, staying on his own side of the nest, marching to his own drummer so to speak.
I think it will fun to see three of them grow up in that nest. But I also think it will be harrowing to watch because the sides are so low that before long we will be asking Paul and Tommy to build a net around the base of the nest! 🙂
The #3 did get viciously pecked today by #1 at 10:17 am. Later when Gracie was near #3 and ripped off a piece of fish, #3 flinched and ducked. Thought about posting a video but I would have to rate it R: Violence.
I must say it is funny watching bit get tossed around by his sibs LOL
Lil bit does not seem to bright. It takes him forever to figure out how to get of its back when it rolls over.
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You are getting mixed up with Hog Island. Osprey Zone is George and Gracie. Rachel and Steve at Hog Island. I know it is just a mix up since you watched with us last year
As well as this year. Don’t feel bad
One day I said Happy Wednesday and it was only Tuesday we all get brain overload. Glad your watching again.
CarolIv &Betsy what about the ice cream truck we haven’t heard it but maybe once this year we should be hearing it a lot more maybe that will preoccupy all three babies so they wont Wrestle each other.
Waiting to hear it!
Hi all our babies seem to be doing well today. Did Lil Bit take any tumbles?
Hi Betsy!! It might get a little confusing with two people named Betsy. But, everyone, the real Betsy is the one with the intelligent comments!! 😀
June 17 11:57 a.m. It’s so amazing to see the crop on the little guy. He’s been eating steady. George and Rachel have really matured. George has picked up on his responsibility and really been supplying enough fish for his family.
8:11am..George brought Gracie the whole BIG fish.At least it’s not flipping around the chicks, like last night! Everybody got fed; chicks seem to have it down on eating order, so minimal fighting. Feedings are close enough together that sometimes, a chick will sleep through while others eat. Trey’s caloric needs still much lower so he’s not pushing in and getting pecked.
At one point, Trey managed to flip over backward and do the turtle. Sib was right there and I think I heard snickering. He’s fine………
At various points, nestorations are ongoing. George decorated the kids with seaweed at one point.
It’s looking overcast on the North Fork. Here, on the South Fork, it has been sunny with a gentle breeze.So close in proximity yet we are like different climates at times….
Just got caught up on comments…PHILK. Your choice goes to the top of my list of names…SPIRIT is a new favorite !!!!
Rjoneal…do your osprey stay all year? Since they had their broods there, there is no need for them to fly north, I guess, but do they “vacation” elsewhere? Always good to see your comments..Hi, by the way..
For CarolV – The name “Spirit” sounds great to me. I guess there will be a naming contest soon.
Hi Carol thought we were going with Lil Bit. Just love that name for our youngest
CarolV—Spirit has a double meeting. I am 60 years ale and remember Mr Burns in Oh God. He referenced “spirit: several times. And clearly this little chick has huge Spirit to compete with the older siblings.
I don’t really care about the names. However it would be nice to continue the theme established by the nice people at OZ that give us this opportunity to experience this wonderful example of nature in action. Names that connect to George, Gracie, New York and Vaudeville would be similar to how racehorses are named. Connect to the legacy.
I like Spirit, or Spunk because this year’s little one has both.
11:20 At approximately 11:20am 6/17, the little one got knocked over accidentally by one of the older chicks. It seemed like forever, but the little one righted its self. Thank goodness.
I saw that…you could see his nice full tummy..
Good morning to all my wonderful friends. Great news! My friend who is a raptor expert may be joining us on a regular bases. How great would that be. Im stil working on convincing him though but looks promising. 🙂
Such a great thing to see and appreciate. Been watching from the beginning and the food supply is very plentiful. Barring an unforeseen occurrence it appears that all 3 will make it to fledge. I boat in Seaford on the South shore of Long Island and we have at least 8 pairs of Osprey within a 4 mile radius all with young. Hoping they all do as well as Gracie & Georges family.
To all: Trying to make my way through the comments, but every time I blink, more keep popping up … the number from yesterday is growing faster than the chicks!! I’m glad you liked the flapping fish video. And, George keeps bringing them – although not as lively!! And, this morning he brought a tailless fish – that’s a new one on me!! 😀
BTW, I didn’t mean to cause a firestorm!! But, I call it as I see it. Glad to know, though, that people do read my comments (and watch the videos!). And, I’m glad to know that there’s such passion!!!!
Hi Tammy You seem to be the leader among us all. There seems to be confusion to the names I thought we were going with Lil Bit. Is that right?
Chick 1 and chick 2 are always fighting and leaving chick 3 alone. That is more of a fair fight. I hope it stays that way.
Baby was pecked by older sibling just before feeding at 10:30 am. Yesterday, also pecked for no reason – they had all just eaten. He tries to stand up to them, then just ducks for cover.
Very disturbing. Maybe knowing when to hold ’em and when to fold ’em will save him.
Not sure what you guys saw, but #3 was holding his own and biting the older chick….not backing down. Good for him/her for standing up. He’s a fighter !
I think he has a good handle on self-preservation! As long as the food holds out, I’m liking his chances.
GREAT…..Now there’s a bully in the nest 🙁
ps I have been watching these two- this is my second or maybe third year now. So I am not a newbie, I just do not post a million posts. As someone said- opinions are just that- opinions. 🙂