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Belle’s Journey

Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky

Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.

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IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts

Rob Bierregaard July 1, 2015 at 7:24 am
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.

4818eecc88292926c58414a82c884c71Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.

Reprinted with the permission of John W. Fitzpatrick, Executive Director of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology.

Hello Paul,

Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.

Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.

I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.

Best wishes, and good luck,

John W. Fitzpatrick

Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology

In addition, Charles Eldermire, Bird Cams Project Leader, Cornell Lab of Ornithology Writes:

It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.

Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.

charles.

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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology

Paul,

I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.

Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com

“Interesting. They don’t often take over osprey poles—probably too small for them. They will coopt tree nests, which they can expand. We had a pair of eagles do this on the Vineyard. They built up the Osprey nest a lot and then the Ospreys came home and drove the eagles away, in a David v. Goliath story. The Ospreys successfully bred. They looked tiny in the nest, which sadly blew down this winter.”

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    1. CarolV July 18, 2020 at 9:25 am - Reply

      Saturday starts out foggy……………
      Northeast is under watch for a heat wave…. we should be slightly better out here… a little cooling effect from the water.

      Jane comes in to rearrange the furniture.

      George stops by. You can see the fog rolling away over the bay

    2. CarolV July 17, 2020 at 8:02 pm - Reply

      I may be biased but……………… aren’t they adorable!

      • Trinity July 18, 2020 at 4:40 pm - Reply

        Agreed 😀

    3. Trinity July 17, 2020 at 3:01 pm - Reply

      The Yankee highlight video was so well done , thank you .

    4. CarolV July 17, 2020 at 2:37 pm - Reply

      Jane is hanging around….. looking for someone to listen…

      • CarolV July 17, 2020 at 2:48 pm - Reply

        And the yammer pays off………. @14:34

    5. CarolV July 17, 2020 at 2:16 pm - Reply

      Newfoundland nest…. The chick on the left has not moved all day.
      The chick on the right was moving this morning… Male brought a fish but chick watched without begging and mom did not feed, as far as I could see.
      The chick on the right is now not moving……………………………………………………….

      Mother is still protecting from rain….

      • CarolV July 17, 2020 at 2:39 pm - Reply

        Female was only out for short trips in those pics. She has been diligent about taking care of them.

      • Admin Mary Anne July 17, 2020 at 6:53 pm - Reply

        They both passed away this morning. Too much rain, three days of it and not enough sheltering by the mother. Very sad.

        • CarolV July 17, 2020 at 7:49 pm - Reply

          Everytime I ran through the video, she was on them, soaking wet herself…. for hours at a time, To the point where the male left fish and she ignored it. How old were these guys? Had they gotten their protective feathers yet?
          It just looked like it rained so much for so long, the whole nest was soaked…..
          But you know I stick up for the birds….. nature just sucks some times….
          Incredibly sad

          • Admin Mary Anne July 17, 2020 at 9:19 pm - Reply

            The chicks both were 17 days old. They cannot thermoregulate their core temperature at this age, so they are saying they died from exposure. They didn’t have their protective feathers yet. I have seen this happen before at other nests during days of rain when there are young chicks. I feel bad for all of them, including the parents.

            • g willie July 18, 2020 at 6:46 pm

              Some of this info is inaccurate……..yes, weather was horrid, very cold w driving wind and rain from the NE…BUT
              Chicks died of starvation, not exposure. Fish deliveries over the previous ~week were few, puny and infrequent. Laterally, when they arrived, female would devour the tiny fish. On the 15th, one chick was so weak it could barely beg, it barely moved on the 16th and died overnight. ~6AM on the 17, a tiny fish was delivered and was devoured by female in front of the remaining screaming chick. A second small fish arrived ~10AM, last chick barely moving went unfed. Mother was ALWAYS nestled over both chicks (ex feeding), providing 5-star shelter. Ironically, one of the largest fish ever delivered to that nest arrived after 2nd chick’s passing….mother snatched it and flew away. (fwiw, 1st hatched Jun 30, 2nd Jul 01)

              Is this nest discussed elsewhere? The locals slammed the door to their FB group, and a few outcasts from there set up a 2nd group…..private, of course. Einsteins!!!!

            • Admin Mary Anne July 18, 2020 at 6:57 pm

              Try typing Snow’s Lane Osprey Nest with Beaumont and Hope into a FB search and see if it comes up.

            • CarolV July 18, 2020 at 7:18 pm

              I typed it in several different ways and get a non-descript page for newfoundland power…. and each time, different posts appeared. Not many. But sometimes, different posts I put here showed up there. It just shows up on youtube as a live stream. Says there is a chat you can join but I didn’t.

        • Paula July 17, 2020 at 8:16 pm - Reply

          I know that nature can be cruel but we really need to ask ourselves WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON THIS YEAR? I watch 6 osprey nests and there is only 1 with chicks this year. There is something going on and I don’t think that it is “just nature”. I think that all the roll backs of environmental safeguards has really impacted the avian world. I have noticed it in my own backyard. I used to go through a 25# bag of thistle seed for the goldfinches every 2 weeks, this year I might need a 10# bag a month because I don’t have the goldfinches I usually have. There is something going on!
          Sorry I got on my soapbox but I really am concerned!

          • Admin Mary Anne July 17, 2020 at 9:28 pm - Reply

            I don’t know, Paula, but I don’t have the songbirds I used to either. This has been a rough year for ospreys. I recall saying that last year but this year seems worse for chick fatalities and eggs that didn’t hatch. Do you watch The Marders cam? It’s a Long Island nest. I know 2 out of 3 chicks have fledged, at least, you can see them flying around over the water and flying in to land. Quite enjoyable to watch.

          • Isabella July 18, 2020 at 1:51 am - Reply

            Paula… was just discussing this with my husband….we used to have what I called bird hour….early evening we would sit out and watch them take dirt baths…go in our fountain…take turns in the birdbath. We would see sparrows, finches, cat birds, morning doves, mocking birds, chickadees, cardinals, blue jays, wrens, robins, humming birds, etc…..this year mostly sparrows and cardinals. Also have not seen a butterfly or dragonfly. Something we also saw daily. Bats flew back and forth every night…now occasionally. I am thinking maybe due to people are home more…hanging out in their yards. Letting their dogs and cats out more. Doing more yard work…bbqing, fire pits etc. maybe the pandemic is affecting them in this manner?
            Two nest I’m watching with chicks.. Patchoque and oyster bay

            • Isabella July 18, 2020 at 1:52 am

              ❤️ to ❤️

            • Isabella July 18, 2020 at 1:53 am

              Osprey “fan”

            • Isabella July 18, 2020 at 1:56 am

              The very loud barnegat

          • CarolV July 18, 2020 at 9:20 am - Reply

            Here’s another one….. I think I mentioned it. You can play a game of WTH are the kids…. They blend in so well…. I always forget the time change.

            There’s also Port Lincoln ospreycam …. they are just starting… no eggs yet….. and a real time change!

    6. CarolV July 17, 2020 at 9:54 am - Reply

      It’s Friday……. yes, I checked my phone! I’m getting some rain on my side of the Island. Jane is yapping away as I post…

      George was in early… this is his 2nd load of seaweed…

      • CarolV July 17, 2020 at 9:57 am - Reply

        Jane came in to re-do some of George’s choices…

        • CarolV July 17, 2020 at 9:58 am - Reply

          G brings in a small stick; he and Jane catch up

      • CarolV July 17, 2020 at 10:10 am - Reply

        @10:00….. here’s the fish Jane has been yapping about! She raced back in just ahead of him…
        George manages to stand in the way but glimpses of the fish show a good size breakfish.

    7. nfc July 17, 2020 at 9:06 am - Reply

      Great video on Jane and George fighting for the nest and then taking care of Yankee. They have really had a tough year fighting for the nest. They took care of Yankee as best they could. So glad that we can see the nest this year. Hopefully next year will be better. Thanks to everyone involved in this website and the posts and pictures.

    8. Isabella July 17, 2020 at 12:17 am - Reply

      Smarter than your average osprey!

    9. CarolV July 16, 2020 at 7:30 pm - Reply

      @17:50……….. I wasn’t sure this was George at first. Couldn’t get a good look at him . He was acting very “flirty”, guarding the fish and doing the wing waggle. Jane paced back and forth behind him but couldn’t get to the fish. When she tried a little harder, he took off.
      About a minute later, he was back. Jane took no chances and got that fish…. a good one….. and took off like a crazy person!

      • CarolV July 16, 2020 at 7:33 pm - Reply

        STUDMUFFIN………………

    10. CarolV July 16, 2020 at 3:32 pm - Reply

      This is another nest I watched last year until chicks pooped all over lens…. sound familiar! For some reason, I couldn’t find this year. Happy to stumble over it.

      2 healthy chicks and a beautiful view. Family portrait
      Whatever kind of wood that is, those chicks really blend in…

    11. CarolV July 16, 2020 at 1:32 pm - Reply

      PAUL and your videographers..
      Loved the highlights video for Yankee…… Brilliant representation of the relationship between G&J and how hard Jane fought to protect her eggs.

      Thank you so much for commemorating that short life…. and co-star, eggdoodle

      Have your tissues ready.

    12. CarolV July 16, 2020 at 1:08 pm - Reply

      More rain in Newfoundland…. at least it will be green!…Looks like rain may last into tomorrow….. temp about 50…

      But I did see the kids getting fed….

    13. CarolV July 16, 2020 at 11:34 am - Reply

      George had a stick in bright and early…….

      And later, he runs in to Jane while bringing another……. She reminds him she needs to eat

    14. Isabella July 16, 2020 at 12:17 am - Reply

      Looks like a girls club

      • Isabella July 16, 2020 at 12:21 am - Reply

        This chick is ready to go!…..was making me nervous on the edge…….very dark markings under wings

        • Isabella July 16, 2020 at 12:25 am - Reply

          Huge 🐟!……chick in back is self feeding…..mom is feeding one in front….one on right looks like she’s had enough!

          • Isabella July 17, 2020 at 12:11 am - Reply

            🐥🐥🐥🐟

      • winnie esoff July 16, 2020 at 6:50 pm - Reply

        thats a beautiful picture-lovely family!

    15. CarolV July 15, 2020 at 7:20 pm - Reply

      Deliveryman @19:04…… I think I saw a smile on her beak as Jane left…..

    16. CarolV July 15, 2020 at 5:57 pm - Reply

      It’s pouring in Newfoundland………………. Mom has had the kids on lockdown almost all day. There was even a fish delivery that she ignored. It sat in nest about 2 1/2 hrs. until the male came back to collect it.
      The little guys are getting restless…. Mom having a harder time keeping them covered. Little butts are popping out as Mom keeps shifting….

    17. CarolV July 15, 2020 at 4:41 pm - Reply

      You can see the additions to the nest today…. George has been busy……………………. leaves, grasses, more sticks…..

    18. CarolV July 15, 2020 at 1:47 pm - Reply

      GM, George

      • CarolV July 15, 2020 at 1:52 pm - Reply

        Visitor…. female by George’s actions. Hard to get action shots in low light of early morning….
        As visitor left, a second osprey flew beneath the nest to escort it away and Jane landed seconds later……… looks like George was apologizing for flirting….

        • CarolV July 15, 2020 at 1:56 pm - Reply

          Return for fly-over…… mighty Jane guards

          • CarolV July 15, 2020 at 2:01 pm - Reply

            A neighbor took a stroll around while the O’spreys were out

            I haven’t seen a fish delivery today, but Jane is yammering as I post.

            • CarolV July 15, 2020 at 2:13 pm

              Yes, that was lunch arriving @ 13:39…. decent sized! TY, Honey

            • CarolV July 15, 2020 at 2:14 pm

              One of those shots that just caught my attention…… layers of feathers …..

    19. Isabella July 15, 2020 at 10:50 am - Reply

      Jane watching sunrise

      • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 10:51 am - Reply

        Hello Jane….good bye Jane

        • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 10:54 am - Reply

          George’s turn…hello George!

          • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 10:57 am - Reply

            Alarming and claiming his nest……good bye George!

            • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 3:20 pm

              Hello again George

            • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 3:23 pm

              Kicking up “dust” as he goes

            • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 3:25 pm

              And goes…and goes….and goes……..and goes

            • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 3:33 pm

              Don’t know who this is….Jane chased him off

            • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 3:35 pm

              You go girl!

            • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 3:37 pm

              I showed him!

            • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 3:39 pm

              Now George gives a helping wing

            • Isabella July 15, 2020 at 3:41 pm

              Then sets up a slingshot!

    20. CarolV July 14, 2020 at 8:16 pm - Reply

      Lady i n waiting………….

      • CarolV July 14, 2020 at 8:18 pm - Reply

        George came in the blind corner with the dinnerfish…… it was hard to see but didn’t look very big……..
        Jane wasn’t gone long. George was on the perch when she came back and the quiet yapping started……….

    21. CarolV July 14, 2020 at 8:14 pm - Reply

      And in case they need extra……

    22. CarolV July 14, 2020 at 8:03 pm - Reply

      George was stuck in sticks today…… Started with a double…..
      If he keeps going, they may have to level the nest before next season!

      • CarolV July 14, 2020 at 8:05 pm - Reply

        More of an art piece……

        • CarolV July 14, 2020 at 8:08 pm - Reply

          Jane gave some help….AND an opinion

          • CarolV July 14, 2020 at 8:12 pm - Reply

            And in case they need extra……

    23. Isabella July 14, 2020 at 12:04 pm - Reply

      Eggdoodle with sunrise…..Jane or George could be heard on perch

    24. CarolV July 14, 2020 at 11:45 am - Reply

      What a puss!!!!!!

      Jane, you’re on camera…. not a good selfie look!

      • CarolV July 14, 2020 at 11:53 am - Reply

        George delivers a med. small 1/2 fish.
        Jane was in and out a few times, waiting…….. but I think this was the first time they were there together.
        After Jane got her fish, she sat and chatted at George as he cleaned his beak…..even while she ate, she stayed in that right corner. Even tho G had gone , she sat for a bit after she finished.

    25. CarolV July 14, 2020 at 6:21 am - Reply

      Checking this a.m. to see if Jane came looking for breakfish…… I didn’t see her at the nest yesterday after George brought her lunch.
      Here’s our handsome boy, bright and early……. he calls for Jane and, in a bit, I can hear her . Sounds like a breakfish order to me! But she’s out of sight. Doesn’t sound like she’s on the perch either.

      • CarolV July 14, 2020 at 6:28 am - Reply

        Here she is! Our pretty lady is lobbying for table service.

    26. Isabella July 14, 2020 at 1:49 am - Reply

      Realized that particular piece of trash wasn’t in nest before……pipe insulation?

    27. Isabella July 13, 2020 at 7:48 pm - Reply

      Beautiful morning!

      • Isabella July 13, 2020 at 7:52 pm - Reply

        Ale and itty bitty are 5 days apart. Can you tell?

        • Isabella July 13, 2020 at 7:54 pm - Reply

          Self feeding already!….and fish to spare!

          • Isabella July 13, 2020 at 8:01 pm - Reply

            CarolV…l have posted barnegat a handful of times. One is down below . And yes turn your volume down before you click on!!!
            I like this site for the info, chicks are banded, and you can donate to wildlife conservation.

            • winnie July 14, 2020 at 10:39 am

              awhile back this nest was bothered by ravens divebombing the ospreys-dont know if they still do!

            • Isabella July 14, 2020 at 11:56 am

              Winnie…saw them also being struck repeatedly by red wing blackbirds a while ago. Tried to get pics. They were too fast!

    28. CarolV July 13, 2020 at 3:54 pm - Reply

      I made a comment comparing judging osprey to reading Sanskrit…………………. just for fun, I wanted to see OSPREY…………. it ain’t easy……

      • Isabella July 13, 2020 at 8:07 pm - Reply

        Don’t let rodee see this

      • ChrisH July 14, 2020 at 10:14 am - Reply

        That’s too funny!

    29. CarolV July 13, 2020 at 3:41 pm - Reply

      I don’t remember checking this cam before….. Was just flipping through some videos of various cams. When I tap on this one, my nicely relaxed cat shot up and off the couch! This is the noisiest nest I have ever looked at! Holy moley…. every bird and insect in the place must be sounding off and sounded like highway noise in the background.

      Barnegut Light in NJ.

      • winnie July 14, 2020 at 10:44 am - Reply

        AW so beautiful-I have a Maisy she is blonde rescued from Mercy Hosp parking lot-Ginger a4yr old torti rescued fro JFK-Skitty who arrived here about 5 yrs ago & KittyWitty who comes & goes & I feed 7 feral at the KP Bluff & 2 at the trainstation keeps me busy & broke-I love it!

    30. CarolV July 13, 2020 at 3:15 pm - Reply

      George brings a nice fluke for lunch……………….Jane has been yammering for at least 10 mins……….

      • Trinity July 13, 2020 at 3:55 pm - Reply

        I wonder if Jane will start fishing on her own .

    31. CarolV July 13, 2020 at 3:12 pm - Reply

      Calm bay makes a beautiful reflector for the sky….

      • Isabella July 14, 2020 at 1:25 am - Reply

        Beautiful!…looks like you could go skating

        • ChrisH July 14, 2020 at 10:13 am - Reply

          Yes!

    32. CarolV July 13, 2020 at 3:10 pm - Reply

      My son spotted this over in Westhampton….. Squatters as he calls them.

      • Trinity July 13, 2020 at 3:54 pm - Reply

        Nice way to save on a summers rental cost 😀

        • CarolV July 13, 2020 at 7:58 pm - Reply

          They get charged extra for the penthouse

      • Isabella July 14, 2020 at 1:29 am - Reply

        Squatters rights…..and the best view!

      • ChrisH July 14, 2020 at 10:11 am - Reply

        Beautiful house and great spot! Wonder how much fighting there is over THAT nest in March!

    33. CarolV July 13, 2020 at 2:06 pm - Reply

      Eggdoodle goes under……

      • CarolV July 13, 2020 at 2:08 pm - Reply

        And more is added on top…..

      • Trinity July 13, 2020 at 3:54 pm - Reply

        Doodle is being fertilized with a lovely dark mulch .

      • Leesa Downs July 13, 2020 at 4:16 pm - Reply

        I watched this, too, and am soooooooo sad. I didn’t know the first chick had died until late yesterday, so I was so hopeful that the 2nd egg would hatch and they would have one successful young one this year. But it seems that they, too, realize the other egg isn’t going to hatch. So sad to just watch it disappear under the nesting material.

    34. Isabella July 13, 2020 at 1:28 am - Reply

      Fishing 🎣 and dumpster diving

    35. PattyK July 12, 2020 at 3:09 pm - Reply

      Wow, teary-eyed …still been watching the nest and Gracie incubating….wondering where their instincts will send them….just watched George do his nestkeeping, rearranging the logs and….covering the egg….he is literally staring right at the camera into my eyes….they are both standing apart in the nest. I find some solace this afternoon…Belle’s Journey book arrives from Amazon a few hours ago….looking forward to learning more about these incredible creatures from Rob Bierregaard and Kate Garchinsky….maybe will learn about what comes next for our George and Jane…..Hugs to all….xoxoxoxoxo

    36. CarolV July 12, 2020 at 2:57 pm - Reply

      Thought we lost eggdoodle! But he’s there! Hidin’ in the weeds!

      • Isabella July 12, 2020 at 7:21 pm - Reply

        In hiding no more

    37. CarolV July 12, 2020 at 2:32 pm - Reply

      Battle of the mini-titans! Went on more than 3 minutes….

      Kid on left started it………………. kid on right finished it……… who’s sorry now?????

      Newfoundland Power Co. nestcam

      • CarolV July 12, 2020 at 2:35 pm - Reply

        Knew I’d mess that up! My other left and right! You can see…..
        as soon as I hit send…. duh!

    38. CarolV July 12, 2020 at 11:48 am - Reply

      Happy Sunday! Weather is great! Enough of a breeze to push away some of the humidity…..
      Jane’s hsc shell has been relegated to that bottom rt. corner……. miss seeing it,,,,,,,,,,,

      George provided a breakfast appetizer…..@ 09:20

      • CarolV July 12, 2020 at 11:51 am - Reply

        The couple spent a bit of time just surveying the neighborhood………

    39. Roberta Schoenbrun July 11, 2020 at 2:18 pm - Reply

      Is the deceased hatchling still in the nest?

      • Admin Mary Anne July 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm - Reply

        No, Jane removed it.

    40. kathryn kovacs July 11, 2020 at 10:40 am - Reply

      Looks like the season is over for this year. They will stay around until September then fly south. Hope next year will be different but Jane and George should take parenting lesson when away.

      • Trinity July 12, 2020 at 4:04 pm - Reply

        Each season viewers must still be reminded that Mother Nature is very often brutal , completely different than humans raising offspring and lastly to not pass judgement on these birds. We shouldn’t try to analyze their behavior , either enjoy the show or move on.

        • CarolV July 12, 2020 at 8:33 pm - Reply

          Well I am guilty of trying to analyze behavior, it’s just curiosity or a learning tool..
          But judging them is like trying to read Sanskrit…… leave it to the experts.

    41. Isabella July 11, 2020 at 9:53 am - Reply

      Mary Anne…..is it alright to post other nest?
      Throwing some shade on mom!

      • Isabella July 11, 2020 at 9:54 am - Reply

        Not enough shade for three

        • Isabella July 11, 2020 at 9:56 am - Reply

          Where are the humans?

      • Admin Mary Anne July 11, 2020 at 1:03 pm - Reply

        Once in a while, as long as you don’t go crazy..we wouldn’t want to offend our hosts who created this site for the OZ nest.

        • Isabella July 11, 2020 at 9:37 pm - Reply

          Okay Mary Anne 🙂!

    42. CarolV July 11, 2020 at 8:54 am - Reply

      Friday……. used to be my day off…. now every day is off…. in fact, I’ve been a little off for a long time….{;*))

      George at work early…
      Most of the storm missed us. Rain and now some wind from the back end of the front. Hmmmmmm…..
      Anyway…… life goes on and they are still waiting for eggdoodle. Kind of sad, but instinct over rules …..

      • CarolV July 11, 2020 at 9:00 am - Reply

        Yeah, I know, Saturday. today. oooppppsssss.

      • winnie July 11, 2020 at 9:25 am - Reply

        was watching the Barnegut nest-those 3 babies were braving a gusty wind for sure-talk about “ruffling feathers” they are fine Thank God!

      • Isabella July 11, 2020 at 9:43 am - Reply

        Okay CarolV…I was going along with Friday.lol………wind from the back end of the front…..funny!

        • Isabella July 11, 2020 at 9:50 am - Reply

          Ps….how are you liking retirement?…..I went to see you in king kullen. Think I went to wrong one( Hampton bays)?….don’t know what department you were in. For some reason I was thinking deli.

          • CarolV July 11, 2020 at 4:48 pm - Reply

            Isabella… I worked in Cutchogue on the North Fork. Cashier. If you’re ever out that way, look for the Verizon nest in the KK shopping center. You can’t miss the tower! I miss checking on Vic and Vera.
            Glad to be retired and missing all the necessary precautions to work with the public. Loved my regular customers but people in general are such pains!
            And I still value my fingers too much to work in deli…. somehow, I don’t think I would have done well there!

            • Isabella July 11, 2020 at 9:36 pm

              Yes…was thinking you got out just in time for the pandemic!

    43. Isabella July 10, 2020 at 9:17 pm - Reply

      Goodnight Jane 💤🌝

      • Isabella July 10, 2020 at 9:21 pm - Reply

        CarolV…this made me think of your fairies!

        • CarolV July 11, 2020 at 8:47 am - Reply

          The fairies having a meeting…. TY

    44. CarolV July 10, 2020 at 9:44 am - Reply

      It’s been a foggy morning… both fog on the bay and fog on the lens.
      George was moving the hsc shell around. Ins and outs…………..

      The atmosphere is heavy, waiting for TS Fay to come up the coast. Hope all will be well at the nest. Wonder if they will head for the trees or will the pull of Eggdoodle keep someone in the nest?

      • Isabella July 10, 2020 at 9:19 pm - Reply

        Eggdoodle🥚

        • Isabella July 12, 2020 at 1:43 pm - Reply

          Poor Jane….still incubating eggdoodle

          • winnie July 13, 2020 at 1:58 pm - Reply

            Dont see the egg anymore? Am I missing it?

            • Isabella July 14, 2020 at 1:40 am

              Winnie…..you can see just a bit here

    45. CarolV July 9, 2020 at 8:51 pm - Reply

      The importance of a good babyrail!

      • Trinity July 10, 2020 at 7:05 am - Reply

        Oh my goodness that was nerve wracking !

      • Isabella July 10, 2020 at 9:26 pm - Reply

        Oopsy daisy…..like the end when sib puts his “arm “ around her!….glad you’re still here!…….sadly saw a video where chick was blown off nest

    46. CarolV July 9, 2020 at 8:18 pm - Reply

      Storm Fay heading this way……. right now, they are predicting the main force of it to hug the coast, running through NYC.. We are far enough out in the water that we may miss the brunt of it. Providing it stays on course…. batten down the hatches, birdies!
      That’s more towards tomorrow night, Sat. morn. But they also forecast 40-60% chance of rain tomorrow morning. Hopefully will cut this humidity!

    47. CarolV July 9, 2020 at 6:38 pm - Reply

      Shadow of George on perch obviously eating fish……… Jane is yammering in complaint!

      And not only did he eat the head as usual, the tail is gone! Has he developed a taste for tailfin???

    48. CarolV July 9, 2020 at 4:00 pm - Reply

      Could someone with a memory please tell me the names of the 2 chicks from 2017,,,,, and that was the year of eggbert?

      • CarolV July 9, 2020 at 4:04 pm - Reply

        Oh! Maybe Solar and Eclipse? And the unnamed little soul who passed’

        • CarolV July 9, 2020 at 4:06 pm - Reply

          Sorry…. that little nameless chick was last year. Eggbert was 2017 I believe

          • Admin Mary Anne July 9, 2020 at 4:11 pm - Reply

            Just saw this, Eggbert, LOL!

            • CarolV July 9, 2020 at 6:34 pm

              He lasted in the nest forever. Chicks used to lean on him and he became like a 3rd kid!

        • Admin Mary Anne July 9, 2020 at 4:09 pm - Reply

          Carol, yes, those were the names of the chicks in 2017. But there were only two chicks. The third egg that year did not hatch.

    49. CarolV July 9, 2020 at 3:00 pm - Reply

      George brings in a fish and plays keep away, but Jane got it anyway…..
      As she went, she hooked the rope and out it went….. didn’t look tangled, just snagged on claw.

      Not the first fish today, so George is on the job.

      • CarolV July 9, 2020 at 3:37 pm - Reply

        Jane is back…. no rope… buh-bye, ugly rope!

      • nfc July 9, 2020 at 5:15 pm - Reply

        Carol. I saw that rope disappear live. I said to myself— Carol will get that picture. Sure enough you got it. Thanks. It was pretty big. Hope it didn’t hit anyone when it went to the ground. LOL

        • CarolV July 9, 2020 at 8:07 pm - Reply

          If we could target who left it around………

    50. Laura July 9, 2020 at 8:19 am - Reply

      Thank you to all are involved with OspreyZone. I have been watching this since its inception and look forward to it every spring. Have to say, it is an emotional rollercoaster at times, actually most years. This year the eggs came so late in the season. Yankee was born at a time when most are getting ready to fledge. Who knows if there was something wrong other than the timing. I have always found that nature takes care of itself. While it is so sad and heartbreaking, it is nature and it’s not for the weak of heart. I have found this a sad year for lots of nests. One nest I watch was made a few years ago by a couple that was forced out of their nest by a young Osprey pair. They built a new nest on a small tree. This year they were here when we had a storm. The branch broke on the tree and the nest was lost. A couple of days later, I found Osprey eggs on the sand. The next day they were gone. I am sure some sort of animal got to them. Such horrible timing for this pair. This couple has since built a new nest in the same small tree. Another nest was built on an electrical pole. PSEG did put up a new pole and move the nest with the two eggs. It took the female a few days accept the new nest. She sat on the eggs for such a long time but the eggs were not viable and they abandoned the nest. Three nests, six eggs, zero babies. I am sure there are many more as well. I am hoping George and Jane have a safe journey south and make it back here safely next year. Hopefully, 2021 will be a better year for them and for humankind. Thank you again for this wonderful site. I will be looking forward to watching it next spring.

      • CarolV July 9, 2020 at 12:16 pm - Reply

        As I believe someone mentioned, what we see on ospreycams is such a small segment of the osprey population, we have little idea of what is happening all over. We have been blessed with 10 fledged birds since this nest was established. I think we have done well. And enjoyed the ride to boot!
        Thanks for your story… that had to be heartbreaking. Take care.

    51. CarolV July 9, 2020 at 7:22 am - Reply

      An osprey day….Things still need to be done……

      Jane did some nestoration. That thick rope was moved out. Then, when Jane moved a stick, the rope rode back toward the rim…… like a snake waiting to pounce……………. ( too dramatic?)

    52. Isabella July 9, 2020 at 1:36 am - Reply

      Good night Jane and George….sorry for your loss

    53. CarolV July 8, 2020 at 8:13 pm - Reply

      Jane pulling a George……..
      I think she wants him to fish. I haven’t seen him bring in a fish since about 9:05am…… was in and out with leftovers throughout the morning……. Did anyone see a fish this afternoon?

      • Isabella July 9, 2020 at 1:40 am - Reply

        Sorry CarolV…didn’t watch the afternoon…only saw this whopper

    54. ospreyzone July 8, 2020 at 4:16 pm - Reply

      I’m saddened by our loss and reminded how privileged we are to be able to witness nature in the raw.

      The good news is that the Ospreys have come back, from near extinction. In fact, almost too strong. There are Ospreys everywhere, there was a lot of fighting this year, it seems there is a shortage of nests but the Ospreys are abundant.

      Please explain why you think the other egg will not hatch. Yankee was born on July 3rd I believe and if I remember correctly the eggs were laid 5 or 6 days apart. I’m thinking there is still a chance. Please advise.

      Also, do we really know if it’s the Jane from last year, or the original George, for that matter. Seems to me that the female was at a loss, what to do, except for defending the nest , which made for some great highlights. The “intruders” were so persistent, especially the female, it always made me question if our couple were originals or not. Maybe the couple in the nest are the intruders, Do we really know?

      • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 4:54 pm - Reply

        Hi, Paul….
        We are all sad, too. We compared pics from previous years with this female. The under wing markings are distinctive and show that this is Jane of 2018.
        Same with George. He has several i.d. spots and his head markings compare.

        There may be a slight chance of a hatch. Since we can’t tell those beautiful eggs apart, let’s assume that is #2 still sitting there. Laid on 5/29, with an incubation of 34-40 days (varies between sites- some say 42) we are on day 39-40.

        So, we shall see…..
        And thank you for all you and your “helpers do to keep this site going! I’m especially glad Tommy and Christina named this baby so early… something to remember her/him by.

        And, although many blame the parents, there is a good chance there was some deficiency in the chick that the parents sensed. We don’t know.
        Take care………… stay healthy

        • gail wright July 9, 2020 at 4:19 pm - Reply

          With all the confusion in the begining this year are these george an d gracies eggs for sure?

          • Admin Mary Anne July 9, 2020 at 7:00 pm - Reply

            George and Jane’s eggs…

            • gail wright July 9, 2020 at 7:55 pm

              Oh yes sorry.

          • Isabella July 9, 2020 at 10:36 pm - Reply

            Gail…it should read Jane and George’s first chick ( Yankee ) has passed away. I don’t think there’s any chance of other egg hatching. Don’t know who puts up message, it is wrong info

            • ospreyzone July 10, 2020 at 10:14 am

              Agreed, thanks for pointing that out, should be fixed by the time I hit return.

      • Admin Mary Anne July 8, 2020 at 5:22 pm - Reply

        Paul, today is day 40 for the second egg, if that is the second egg. If it’s the first egg, which I doubt, then it’s at 45 days and it’s for sure not viable. Second eggs most often hatch at 36 or 37 days and we are past that time frame. But nothing is etched in stone. And as Carol said already, we know we have George and Jane on the nest. Thank you for everything that you do!

      • Isabella July 8, 2020 at 6:04 pm - Reply

        If Yankee was not ill. Think intruders played a part. At least a handful of times seemed Jane and George were going to feed her. They were sidetracked by relentless intruders.It is their instinct to guard the nest

      • GinaM July 10, 2020 at 10:55 am - Reply

        Hello Paul,
        I don’t think that was Jane. I did think it was George because of his underwing mark. But the way the nest was being “claimed” by other ospreys, I can’t help but think that maybe our original Gracey or even Jane were returning and fighting for their real estate.
        That said, I didn’t think either egg was viable and was surprise when Yankee hatched.
        Again, we remember that nature can be brutal, and we’ve seen our share here on Ospreyzone.
        Thank you, as always, for allowing us this glimpse into the lives of these magnificent birds.
        gina

    55. Trinity July 8, 2020 at 3:22 pm - Reply

      Every year there are new obstacles for our beloved Osprey to face , and 2020 was no different , for animals and humans alike. Little Yankee has passed on , we will watch George & Jane finish out the season and look forward to next years adventure . 💚

    56. Ospreylover July 8, 2020 at 3:01 pm - Reply

      What happened to the baby????

      • Admin Mary Anne July 8, 2020 at 3:21 pm - Reply

        Ospreylover, the chick passed away this morning, due to not being fed enough.

    57. Elaine July 8, 2020 at 2:30 pm - Reply

      Hello everyone. I am so sorry to hear about the passing of little Yankee. This sure has been uncertain times for all of us including wildlife/birds.

    58. Sue Diehm July 8, 2020 at 12:27 pm - Reply

      I’m so sad to hear about Yankee‘s passing. It didn’t look good yesterday. I guess we’ll never understand George and Jane’s behavior.

    59. CarolV July 8, 2020 at 12:08 pm - Reply

      • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 12:11 pm - Reply

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        • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 12:25 pm - Reply

          Top pic from yesterday when she was still able to hold up her head.

          George covered her with seaweed……..

          • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 12:26 pm - Reply

            he covered her after she passed, of course……..

            • JanL July 10, 2020 at 1:21 am

              hi CarolV…I happened to see that event live, watching as George covered baby w/ seaweed. I hadn’t been watching for a couple days, and immediately thought, oh my, something is wrong with baby. And amazingly, Mother Nature takes her course, the parent knowing when it’s time, and that covering by George was something to see.

    60. Pat Sledjeski July 8, 2020 at 12:02 pm - Reply

      Where is the Chick? I saw him earlier this morning but it didn’t appear he was moving, now I don’t see him.

      • Admin Mary Anne July 8, 2020 at 12:06 pm - Reply

        Sadly the chick passed away this morning.

      • Pat Sledjeski July 8, 2020 at 12:07 pm - Reply

        Just read all the posts. Sad, but unfortunately that is nature

    61. kathryn kovacs July 8, 2020 at 12:00 pm - Reply

      Look like they cover Yankee with seaweed. Hatch July 3 and died July 8 rest in peace.

    62. Kammy McLoughlin July 8, 2020 at 10:55 am - Reply

      Little Yankee is no longer suffering but flying somewhere over the bay. Thank you to Carol and Isabella for all of their photos and comments. Thank you to the Aprea family for this gift. Thanks Mary Ann for your work.
      Kammy

      • Isabella July 8, 2020 at 6:10 pm - Reply

        Kammy…..thank you so much! I love the thought of her flying over the bay ! X0

    63. kathryn kovacs July 8, 2020 at 10:19 am - Reply

      The osprey move the egg around to nourish the embryo. Maybe they didn’t do that enough and took a long time to hatch.

    64. Admin Mary Anne July 8, 2020 at 9:13 am - Reply

      Good morning everyone- The chick appears to have passed away sometime before 7:49 am. We won’t ever know what happened or why George and Jane did not feed the chick enough. The second egg is unlikely to hatch now, it is day 40. Special thanks to Carol Valk and Isabella for their frequent updates, screenshots and colorful captions. RIP little Yankee.

      • winnie July 8, 2020 at 9:39 am - Reply

        Yes thank you also for allowing us to view these beautiful creatures! They are amazing!

      • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 9:44 am - Reply

        TY, Mary Ann, for all you do. Fly high, fly free, little Yankee

        • Helen July 17, 2020 at 8:39 pm - Reply

          Yes indeed

      • PattyK July 8, 2020 at 9:47 am - Reply

        So very sad. CarolV and I commented to each other about our concerns on the very little parenting, especially by Jane this season.RIP little Yankee…..Another sad event for 2020….

      • Isabella July 8, 2020 at 9:47 am - Reply

        Good morning Mary Anne…. thank you for all you do.
        Such a sad ending to a season we were all so excited about. I like to think Jane and George knew something was amiss with Yankee. This is nature’s way,as awful as it is to witness. Yankee, your sweet little soul is now in heaven

      • June c July 8, 2020 at 10:06 am - Reply

        I am so sorry to see…what a shame..we will never know why Jane didn’t feed chick right away…knew last night seeing chick could not raise head to eat…actually shut computer down
        site….

      • ChrisH July 8, 2020 at 10:19 am - Reply

        Thank you, Mary Anne. This is heartbreaking for sure, but I’m so grateful for the camera and all the posted pictures and comments over the years. This is the risk we take for that benefit. RIP little cutie Yankee.

      • nfc July 8, 2020 at 10:22 am - Reply

        Thanks Mary Anne for the update. It is sad. Now Yankee will fly free . Glad that Yankee had a name. It has been wonderful to see the nest this year. We can hope for a better outcome next year. The camera placement was great. Now we can watch George and Jane and see how they handle life. Special thanks to the owners of the cams and all who work to make it work. Thanks to Carol and Isabella for the posts and pictures that make the chat interesting. Glad that we have this community to chat on.

        • Isabella July 8, 2020 at 12:46 pm - Reply

          Thank you nfc
          I agree about the chick having a name. Gives her dignity. Seems in the past, chicks weren’t named til almost fledge time.

        • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 4:08 pm - Reply

          TY for the kind words. Being in a good community helps in the tough times. (:^}}

      • Isabella July 8, 2020 at 12:41 pm - Reply

        Sending out a big, far reaching hug for all!….although we don’t see each other. We are feeling this loss “together “.
        Actually glad second egg won’t hatch. It is brutally hot and humid. And will be for a while. Too late in the season for a newborn. Chicks in other nest are older and have a better chance of surviving it.

        • winnie July 8, 2020 at 2:03 pm - Reply

          And right back at you Isabella As I am typing this I am crying-so sad-but you are right! Hoping Mom & Dad are safe in their journey South-Prayers for a better Spring next year!

      • JanL July 10, 2020 at 1:11 am - Reply

        Just catching up w/ this latest news. Thank you for the update, and as always, we send our wishes for little Yankee, that he fly high and free. RIP little one.

    65. kathryn kovacs July 8, 2020 at 8:47 am - Reply

      Don’t look good. Maine’s Hog Island didn’t have any luck having their chicks. They were brother by owls. This is day 40 for second egg thinks it is to late in the season for it to hatch.

      • Admin Mary Anne July 8, 2020 at 8:58 am - Reply

        Yes, that egg is likely non-viable.

    66. CarolV July 8, 2020 at 8:47 am - Reply

      Life goes on…….. Jane continues to incubate eggie….. presumably non-viable and George continues to build…………… he must have an endless supply of these crazy branches.

      I.m very sad about Yankee. Taking a break for a bit

    67. Paula July 8, 2020 at 7:49 am - Reply

      They let the chick starve to death. The baby is dead!

    68. CarolV July 8, 2020 at 7:41 am - Reply

      I prefer to think the parents sense something wrong with their chick. Trying to feed her would have been a way to evaluate it.
      Many years ago, my cat had a litter of kittens. One had a birth defect. Beyond initial contact, the mother ignored it. (Sadly, I had no money for vet care…. rough memory) And the kitten died.
      As observers, we would not know this. The evidence for me is knowing past performance of this pair. Perhaps a little spotty with Jane, but George has always stepped up.
      I for one, won’t judge them or speculate further……….. it is what it is…

      • winnie July 8, 2020 at 9:21 am - Reply

        it is painful to watch-maybe thats what happened to the blind baby deer we rescued-also happened to me with a litter of kittens-when there is a “runt”as they say Mom rejects it! That is nature & sometimes can be heartbreaking! God Bless Mom & Dad they did the best they knew how!

      • Isabella July 8, 2020 at 9:53 am - Reply

        I’m in your camp CarolV….sending you a hug! X0

      • ChrisH July 8, 2020 at 10:00 am - Reply

        I agree with you, Carol. I kept thinking the same thing over and over all last night. Was praying for a better outcome, but the fact that their behavior, especially George’s, was so off this time definitely seems to indicate that they knew something was wrong with the baby. So very sad.

      • Morrison5 July 8, 2020 at 9:58 pm - Reply

        Something must have been wrong with the baby. On Saturday we watch as one of the parents tried to feed Yankee, the baby was not lifting it’s head for the food being offered. So sad.

    69. Wendy July 8, 2020 at 7:38 am - Reply

      Yankee looks abut weak is he getting enough food.? I have only seen him fed occasionally and by George.

    70. CarolV July 8, 2020 at 7:25 am - Reply

      GM, Jane……. must be leftover fish from last night.

      • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 7:27 am - Reply

        GM, George…..

        • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 7:30 am - Reply

          Jane did not take fish; George ate it……………. Yankee is moving around the eggcup but not really raising her head. George checks her over and settles.

          • CarolV July 8, 2020 at 7:32 am - Reply

            They trade trade nest duty several times and George brought a long branch….

    71. Isabella July 8, 2020 at 1:56 am - Reply

      Wondering if Yankee was born too late in the season. So hot and humid!….Squirmy, Sunny and Breeze were earlier……..pic of Jane feeding Squirmy……feeding Sunny while George was eating the bugs in egg shell……maybe one of the experts listed above can give an answer or opinion!

      • Isabella July 8, 2020 at 1:58 am - Reply

        Sunny

    72. JoJo July 7, 2020 at 10:17 pm - Reply

      I’ve been an OZ viewer for several years but not often enough to tell one parent from another. This year I share concerns that Yankee is not being properly parented. I remember reading some early comments that perhaps this mom is not Jane. Is it remotely possible that this is an accurate assessment and Jane’s replacement sadly doesn’t understand family life?

    73. CarolV July 7, 2020 at 8:30 pm - Reply

      Sorry…. lens has fogged over…..

      George brought in a fish………….. Jane left without it.
      George has been patiently waiting, but the chick is not responding. She has moved around the eggcup but not lifting her head.

    74. kathryn kovacs July 7, 2020 at 6:17 pm - Reply

      Your date is wrong it is the 7th not the July 6

    75. CarolV July 7, 2020 at 6:04 pm - Reply

      @17:43…… fish in; fish out…………….. and we wait with fingers crossed

      • CarolV July 7, 2020 at 6:27 pm - Reply

        Jane and her empty feet are back….

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