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Belle’s Journey

Written by Dr. Rob Bierregaard & Illustrated by Kate Garchinsky

Take flight with Belle, an osprey born on Martha’s Vineyard as she learns to fly and migrates for the first time to Brazil and back–a journey of more than 8,000 miles.

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IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts

Rob Bierregaard July 1, 2015 at 7:24 am
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.

4818eecc88292926c58414a82c884c71Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.

Reprinted with the permission of John W. Fitzpatrick, Executive Director of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology.

Hello Paul,

Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.

Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.

I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.

Best wishes, and good luck,

John W. Fitzpatrick

Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology

In addition, Charles Eldermire, Bird Cams Project Leader, Cornell Lab of Ornithology Writes:

It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.

Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.

charles.

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Charles Eldermire
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology

Paul,

I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.

Rob Bierregaard
Academy of Natural Sciences
Drexel University
http://www.ospreytrax.com

“Interesting. They don’t often take over osprey poles—probably too small for them. They will coopt tree nests, which they can expand. We had a pair of eagles do this on the Vineyard. They built up the Osprey nest a lot and then the Ospreys came home and drove the eagles away, in a David v. Goliath story. The Ospreys successfully bred. They looked tiny in the nest, which sadly blew down this winter.”

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    1. Donna June 28, 2015 at 7:55 am - Reply

      Another not so good feeding for the runt. It may have gotten two mouths full. I like the suggestion to giving it to the pair that lost their young.

      • andreaallennyc June 28, 2015 at 8:29 am - Reply

        Unfortunately, the little one is already too old to be given to a new pair. The raptor biologist who switched the 2 into Audrey and Tom’s nest (and had done this sort of thing over many years) said they have to be under 2 weeks of age. There are many other reasons not to do it, but this is a straightforward deal breaker.

        For those who are concerned about bad reactions to humans messing with Osprey nests, first he put two eggs that needed to be moved into another nest. That gave that pair 5 eggs, which they kept incubating. One egg disappeared. They speculate the parents got rid of it, but it could have been a predator. The four remaining eggs hatched and he took the two biggest/strongest and put them in the new nest. All are continuing to do well. It is also clear that having chicks taken from a nest, weighed/measured/banded, and then returned to the nest doesn’t result in the parents abandoning them or the nest. They squawk, are agitated, stay nearby and watch, and very happily return to the nest. Certainly one doesn’t want to disturb a nest for no reason, but it seems relatively safe if done by experienced folks (safe both for the humans and the Osprey).

      • Judy June 28, 2015 at 8:31 am - Reply

        It is sad to watch this little guy trying to get something to eat..we are all praying that he or she will make it… The thing is that this baby is so little..
        I am hooked on this all day long just to see how the little one is doing…Hang in there little one…

      • susan June 28, 2015 at 9:07 am - Reply

        If it is deemed necessary, the runt could be taken to the raptor facility ion the Easter Shore where they took on of our falcon babies (Chesapeake Conservancy) to be rehydrated….they could access him/her, give him fluids and food and get him stronger, then return him to the nest…..I know this is a lot of human intervention, but we have seen babies taken from nests, eggs taken too, and juts from the nest w/cams….I wonder how many babies will actually make it to adulthood and beyond? Good luck little one! I see the netting has stayed to the side and doesn’t seem to be posing them a problem…glad for that.

      • Judy June 28, 2015 at 9:20 am - Reply

        Gracie is a good Mommy.. She has been moving one of the bigger babies away from the little guy..he is right in the front one so we can see he or she good..

      • Patty June 28, 2015 at 9:31 am - Reply

        Oh, NO! George brought home a whole fish, he landed at the right edge of the nest and, oops, out went the fish. Gracie is having a fit! George is off again to hunt!

    2. DAvid June 28, 2015 at 7:47 am - Reply

      He made it another night! Go Little Guy!!!

    3. Nicky June 28, 2015 at 7:25 am - Reply

      watched the end of the 7:15am feeding … the two big chicks being fed well. The poor runt is just lying there … I don’t know if he was able to get any food at the beginning of the feeding … but one of the older ones started pecking at it…. sadly it wont survive … 🙁

      • linda June 28, 2015 at 7:54 am - Reply

        I watched that feeding also……pretty discouraging.. poor little one!

      • Barbara June 28, 2015 at 8:15 am - Reply

        I didn’t see this feeding, and to be quite honest, I don’t know whether or not I can watch anymore. That little one always gets neglected!

    4. Bonnie June 28, 2015 at 6:51 am - Reply

      Can someone post a weather report for today PLEASE . . maybe everyday ?

    5. JB June 28, 2015 at 6:48 am - Reply

      Looks like the rain cleared the fogging at the bottom of the camera lens, and the three chicks are hanging in there despite the hard challenges. Hang in there George and Gracie. And George, get busy catching more fish. Your family is growing.

      • ospreyzone June 28, 2015 at 7:24 am - Reply

        I’m thinking the lens is looking much better as well. Thankfully, whatever might have been blurring our image appears to be gone. Supposedly the camera case is sealed with rubber gaskets and Tommy put water absorbing dry packs inside the housing, so moisture inside was unlikely. Now it’s looking like it could have been salt residue possibly from one of the birds shaking off the salt water after fishing or a splash from a frisky fish. Someone mentioned they saw a “squirt” that could have clouded the lens which might have washed off from the rain. Either way we’re delighted to have our image back.

        Paul

        • JB June 28, 2015 at 8:27 am - Reply

          There’s a lotta “squirting” going on up there from five squirt at will machines. 🙂

          From the look of the stain on the lens yesterday, it appeared that water or condensation may have intruded into the camera casing. But, since last night’s rain, that stain has clearly been washed away from the exterior of the casing. This adds more reassurance that the integrity of the camera case if fully intact since it’s weather some of the harshest conditions mother nature has to offer. Great job Paul and team and go Gracie and family.

    6. JO June 28, 2015 at 12:39 am - Reply

      Hello Paul,

      This is just a thought, but since the lil one keeps being attacked by the older two and may not survive from it, is it possible to take him and put him with Steve and Rachel(ospreys ) on the Hog Island nest since they just lost their two chicks from an eagle attack ?? Just wondering.

      • ospreyzone June 28, 2015 at 7:14 am - Reply

        Great concept, someone suggested that yesterday.

        We can’t help but wonder if we would just be feeding the local Eagle, as opposed to this little guy possibly surviving. If he does he’s going to be one tuff hombre. I saw him pecking back yesterday and several experienced members of this thread have said that they have seen this kind of thing work out before.

        And then there’s the “Prime directive”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive
        Many would agree that there is a line to be drawn as far as interfering with nature.

        Then there is the practical issues of getting up there and handling the little one as well as if Steve and Rachel would bond and raise it.

        Yep. we’ve given it some thought, curious what others think.

        • Peter June 28, 2015 at 7:31 am - Reply

          Paul,
          I would guess part of your intention of setting this whole thing up was to observe nature.
          In that capacity it has been totally successful and wonderful to watch.
          Observe is the key. Obviously we are all pulling for the runt and he may yet make, although by human standards, the odds do not seem to be in his favor.
          Human interference at the height of this nest would be extremely dangerous to humans and the birds. It is easy to say “let’s pull the chick out”. Doing it is another matter. More harm to the nest could result in many ways, unforeseen by us at this time. I believe the “Prime Directive” should guide us.

        • Mike June 28, 2015 at 11:44 am - Reply

          “Prime Directive”? Seriously? This isn’t Star Trek.
          This is nature and life and sometimes death. This nest is NOT being observed thru a camera that is miles away or across a parking lot. The camera was deliberately placed 3 feet from a platform that was deliberately built to lure the Orpreys to nest there. This nest is NOT in the middle of a jungle, it is NOT hanging off the side of a cliff somewhere else in the world. It is on a piece of property that has a steel tower. It is in a place in the world that has MORE THAN ENOUGH FINANCIAL RESOURCES to do the right thing. Please don’t say its unsafe, and talk about the wind, the height and all the rest. It was safe enough at one point to put a camera on it, then a platform. Then it became a local sensation with tons of coverage. Local media outlets as well as some national coverage have ensued. Then there was issue with bandwidth that apparently has been “updated” to handle as many as TEN THOUSAND viewers at a time. TRS is plastered all over the web page. And perhaps rightfully since it is obviously sponsored by them. I wonder what the real reason for this is. For us to actively be able to watch nature in real time in a way that we would never be able to see otherwise or to drum up business? Either way, there is an inherent responsibility for those who deliberately placed a nesting platform on top of a radio tower.
          I support fully that the little one needs to be removed from the nest and placed somewhere it can be properly taken care off, before his execution is witnessed by anyone of the potential ten-thousand viewers.

          And if its marketing the website that is a concerned, well what better tag line then “TRS FIGHTS FOR THE LITTLE GUY”
          That is how you get people to buy in by NOT be allowing them to watch the little guy become a victim of the PRIME DIRECTIVE.

          • ospreyzone June 28, 2015 at 12:37 pm - Reply

            Mike,

            Nature can be brutal and anyone who’s not sharing your feelings is “dead inside”. I respect your opinion and share your emotions, we all do. Obviously your feeling very strongly about all this, but there are other opinions, please respect them too. Many feel that Nature should take it’s course and weeding out the week is a very common and necessary part of nature.

            There are many different opinions regarding undertaking such an effort and diverse theories concerning the likelihood of success, all covered elsewhere in this comments section.

            Yes, we have extended lots of resources to bring this first hand account of nature in the raw. And yes, TRS has sponsered this site with the intention of promoting our services. If you have a problem with that concept you might want to get rid of all your tvs, radios newspapers, magazines and computers.

            Just for your information the platform was installed from a bucket on a boom truck that hardly reached the top of the tower and the owner/operator has indicated that he would “never do that again” just too dangerous. The camera was installed by a climber who had the advantage of an empty platform and no aggressive, protective birds on site. Have you seen the pictures of the nest I posted?

            Since I opened up this topic for discussion I’ve gotten lots of good responses on both sides of this drama, I suggest you peruse to perhaps get a better balance of the issues.

            Thanks for your comment

            Paul

      • Linda June 28, 2015 at 7:36 am - Reply

        I understand survival of the fittest…….but this poor ‘ity bity’ one….getting attacked.. Bad bad family dynamics!! I am so in love with these Ospreys.. but this baby one… I just get so teary …….

    7. Marilyn June 27, 2015 at 11:34 pm - Reply

      I see a little movement, a light colored something. I hope its not the little guy out in the cold & rain. Not under his mom for warmth & staying dry.

    8. Marilyn June 27, 2015 at 11:20 pm - Reply

      Pretty cool here tonight and raining on Long Island, I hope mom or dad are keeping those babies warm.

    9. Marilyn June 27, 2015 at 11:16 pm - Reply

      Haven’t been able to watch since late this afternoon, but not liking the posts I see about the little guy. He seemed to be ok in an earlier feeding, while his two siblings slept. I really hope he gets through this & survives.

    10. Rose Petejan June 27, 2015 at 10:54 pm - Reply

      It’s been a sad year for the osprey’s. Stanley and Iris (Allaboutbirds) lost their three eggs to a hail storm days before hatching.
      Rachel and Steve lost their chicks to eagles.
      On the bright side, the Chesapeake mom Audry had a chick under each wing, while Tom fed her and one of the chicks. Was beautiful to watch.
      George and Gracie are trying their hardest. Feeding 3 chicks is not easy. But, George has really picked up on his deliveries. As long as the eldest 2 chicks are kept full the little one stands a chance. Let’s pray George picks up on the clues.

    11. emilie June 27, 2015 at 9:27 pm - Reply

      Wow !!! it is REALLY windy there. The camera mic is howling. Sounds like a jet engine! Hang tight Gracie and babies!!

    12. Judith June 27, 2015 at 9:08 pm - Reply

      I’m glad to see that all will have a good feast when the wind dies down, probably toward morning.

    13. andreaallennyc June 27, 2015 at 6:54 pm - Reply

      I’ve never seen this much sibling brutality at an Osprey nest. Some, yes, but mainly at later ages when it doesn’t really matter so much for survival. This is very difficult to watch … Not an experience I’ve had before. But the two previous three chick nests I’ve watched, there was a lot of food and all three made it easily. The two chick nests, of course, are much less competitive because it is much easier for the parents to meet their needs. This is a very difficult situation for these inexperienced parents. They are doing a heroic job.

    14. ospreyzone June 27, 2015 at 6:43 pm - Reply

      You know it’s windy when they don’t have to flap their wings to take off, just spread them!

      Big storm coming, lots of rain.

    15. Carol June 27, 2015 at 6:40 pm - Reply

      Please don’t give up on #3. He is working out some great strategies and is still strong. I have seen chicks at other nests get beat up and they survived. #3 is getting enough food to sustain him. His crop even looked good after getting some decent bites of fish at 6pm. As one of the other commenters said, #3 isn’t giving up, so let’s not give up on him either.

    16. Redkayak June 27, 2015 at 6:39 pm - Reply

      As hard as this is to watch, I don’t agree with intervention. It’s their ways of their world and if humans get involved they may never come back to this platform again. I’m pulling for you little Squeak.

      let it be

    17. DebbieDritz June 27, 2015 at 5:16 pm - Reply

      I just watched the feeding session which started about 4:20pm nest time and lasted about 40 minutes. George brought in a very big fish which I was sure would feed Gracie and all 3 kids! It was rather brutal to watch with what I assume is the #1 chick beating up on #3 and then #2 also doing some pecking as well. I don’t know if #3 will survive but I’m encouraged by a few things. He seems to be smart and also a fighter. He kept his head down to protect it when the pecking was at its worst and he stayed down but not forever, calculating when to try again. He kept trying to get his share of the food and while he was attacked many times, he didn’t give up! He finally got what appeared to be a very good meal thanks to Gracie and his own smarts and resolve. While Gracie didn’t intercede when the others were pecking #3, she did try to entice them away with food and that worked several times. I’ve seen O’s come back from conditions like this so while it looks bleak and we don’t know if he’ll make it through this tough time, he isn’t giving up so we shouldn’t either! Hopefully George can keep the food coming and there will be enough for all, allowing #3 to grow and thrive. So, saying prayers, thinking good thoughts, keeping my toes and fingers crossed that he will make it through!

      • Jessica June 27, 2015 at 7:01 pm - Reply

        I’ve been watching all sorts of bird cams for years, and of course there’s always a runt of the group. It’s always upsetting. It’s always upsetting for me to see the little one being beat up and abused. But almost always they end up getting enough food and growing as big as the others.

      • Sheryl June 27, 2015 at 7:01 pm - Reply

        I watched the feeding too; it was difficult to watch the little guy bearing the brunt of the sibling rivalry. I share your sentiments and I remain optimistic that he is strong enough to make it through! I am rooting for you, baby!

      • Patty June 27, 2015 at 7:09 pm - Reply

        Hugs to you!! Thanks for that post!!

    18. Don Strashinsky June 27, 2015 at 5:01 pm - Reply

      Tears of joy for the little one!!! Got fed pretty well this time around!!! We all want to see more of that…

    19. Eva June 27, 2015 at 4:59 pm - Reply

      Oh Lord that was hard to watch! So glad the peanut finally got to eat. I know its the way of nature, but my heart breaks for the little one.

    20. BA Lynch June 27, 2015 at 4:51 pm - Reply

      C’mon guys… time to get the little one out of there, this is brutal.

    21. Donna June 27, 2015 at 4:39 pm - Reply

      After watching the feedings today, sadly #3 will not make it. He/she has not eaten today and #1 has been extremely aggressive towards it and trying to kill it. Very hard to watch and to know that it won’t make it .:(

    22. Nancy June 27, 2015 at 4:37 pm - Reply

      can you call a bird rescue in NY and get help for the littlest baby bird, everyone is watching to see what you can do to help.
      Please do something

    23. maryann June 27, 2015 at 4:36 pm - Reply

      someone has got to help that baby

    24. Pat June 27, 2015 at 4:34 pm - Reply

      Doesn’t look good for junior. The older ones just peck and peck at him. I know that’s nature but so sad to watch

    25. Elaine June 27, 2015 at 4:33 pm - Reply

      At this feeding, PeeWee appears lifeless. One of the older two looks as if he is holding and preventing little PeeWee from getting any food. What a shame. It breaks my heart so see such action. Then the other two were fighting each other for bites of fish.

    26. JB June 27, 2015 at 4:30 pm - Reply

      Each feeding is becoming increasingly brutal.

      • JB June 27, 2015 at 4:33 pm - Reply

        🙁 🙁 🙁

        I don’t expect that the little guy can survive this much longer.

    27. Cathy H June 27, 2015 at 4:26 pm - Reply

      I agree.. so hard to watch.they wont let him eat..breaks my heart..

    28. Dorothy June 27, 2015 at 4:04 pm - Reply

      In watching other nest, mostly the bald eagles, I’ve found, things happen in the world of these critters and we really have no say so…This is nature at it’s finest, sometimes it’s hard to watch but this is nature..There have also been a few times when I’ve had to step away and not watch for a day or so…And I also confess, I’ve shed quite a few tears over my nest watching……I’m constantly amazed at the devotion the parents have for their little ones and each other, some times more than humans do…..
      Watching “my” eagle nest last winter, during a very, very cold snowy evening, the male eagle came to the nest and covered the female with his wing to help keep her and the eggs warm….Little things like that really makes a person think….

      We can only hope and pray, all these babies will survive……

    29. ospreyzone June 27, 2015 at 3:38 pm - Reply

      We were having some technical difficulties since yesterday which were unrelated to our volume of concurrent users, which at times have exceeded 500. We have structured our system to be scaleable and should be able to handle thousands of simultaneous users. We started experiencing “slow down” and “freeze” yesterday afternoon and I’m glad to report that Cablevision got right on it this morning and now we have the best bandwidth I’ve ever seen here.

      So Thank you Cablevision for being so responsive!

      The other problem, I’m sure you have experienced is the camera is a little unclear at the bottom. Not sure why that is, but we are hoping it’s moisture that will evaporate as it hasn’t really been very sunny since it appeared, just very humid.

      Paul

      • Lyn June 27, 2015 at 4:45 pm - Reply

        Geez Paul, it seems like pee wee is just being savagely beaten up by the others. Unless there is an intervention to get him the heck out of that nest, he’s done for, unfortunately. He’s received only a smidgen of food all day and can’t fight off those other siblings. Sooooo sad, it makes my heart break.

      • Renee June 27, 2015 at 4:53 pm - Reply

        This is incredible ! Thought I could no longer watch but now the little one is getting his share of the food. Ahhhhhh !

      • Mary June 27, 2015 at 5:16 pm - Reply

        What a great job you are doing. The little one is hanging on! Let’s hope it makes it. Your nest is close to our home. We are on Greenport Harbor and watch the parents fish from our deck. They are getting bunker right now.

    30. ospreyzone June 27, 2015 at 3:22 pm - Reply

      So one of the babies is helping mom arrange sticks on the edge of the nest and the other one is pecking at the little ones head. Would Anyone like to speculate which is the male and which is the female?

      3:25 The little one is facing off against his brother and pecking back!

      • maryjo June 27, 2015 at 3:26 pm - Reply

        Haha! Actually, could be either!

      • Carol June 27, 2015 at 4:07 pm - Reply

        I would say the oldest is female and the youngest is male. Not sure about the middle one.

      • BostonBean June 27, 2015 at 5:36 pm - Reply

        The aggressive one is the female, I’m guessing.

        • andreaallennyc June 27, 2015 at 6:48 pm - Reply

          I don’t know that there is a difference in aggression between the sexes in Osprey. Among siblings I think it is a birth order/size thing … With the older ones being bigger. I guess if a younger one becomes bigger, it might become the most aggressive … the sexual dimorphism in size does show up soon … They use measurements at banding to sex them … But the difference is not dramatic, they need to measure to get it (and I think they compare it to age norms, but maybe not!). The differences in size now seems related to age advantage.

      • Judy June 27, 2015 at 5:36 pm - Reply

        Paul . . . I appreciate the positive report regarding the little one pecking back. Regardless of the outcome, it is gratifying to read that so many of your viewers are concerned about the outcome of the most helpless AND about the trash we leave around in our environment. Thanks again for this feed.

      • Patty June 27, 2015 at 7:05 pm - Reply

        Hi all, and to JB, have also watched from almost inception, experiencing many highs and lows. This site is spectacular, the good .the bad and the ugly The good being so very very privileged to see Mother Nature first hand, the bad, having human nature wanting to “fix”everything to make it nicey nice for us, the ugly-what we don’t have the heart to see first hand about wildlife…Cannot thank Tommy & Paul enough for the most incredible laughter and tears in my life, xoxoxox, Patty

    31. JO June 27, 2015 at 2:25 pm - Reply

      Hi everyone, I just love watching this nest and seeing all the lil ones.The other site that I watch is also an Osprey nest,and they had two babies that were both ripped off the nest by an eagle so my heart is broken and feel so bad for the parents. The nest is on Hogs Island,Maine, Too bad we can’t take our lil runt here to the other nest, it would get the best care and spoiled being the only one .

      • ospreyzone June 27, 2015 at 2:29 pm - Reply

        Love the concept.

        By the way, our picture slider is now working in the highlights section of our website and I’ve posted some images of the tower and nest. Note the attention this photographer was receiving from the bird on his perch.

        • JB June 27, 2015 at 2:39 pm - Reply

          WOW! Those pics are awesome. That’s quite a sturdy tower you all built. Great job. It’s just about as safe as it could have possibly been made.

      • JB June 27, 2015 at 2:35 pm - Reply

        Hello Jo, welcome. I had been watching the other site also since the beginning and saw the first egg hatch and then the second. The third of course did not hatch, but it remains in the nest even today. It was so shocking to see the helpless chicks snatched so harshly and quickly. It didn’t even seem real. Everyone was still in shock after the first and then so quickly the second was gone. I noticed that site was not built in an elevated position like Gracie and George have here. Rather their site was built below many trees making it easy for any predator in a nearby tree to just sit and watch. But, this is life in the wild, and despite it’s harsh reality we can only hope that Gracie, George, and their three chicks will make it.

        • JO June 28, 2015 at 10:02 pm - Reply

          Hi JB, Thanks for the information about the Hogs Island site. I too have been watching the nest for two years now, including all the hatchings and was hoping the third egg would hatch but its not. I just saw the chicks sleeping and then it happened. I still am totally heartbroken over this.Maybe because of the attacks, they may raise the nest higher and make it safer for all the future chicks, it would be a wise thing to do.

      • Adriana June 27, 2015 at 5:02 pm - Reply

        Just reeling from the events at Hog Island… my first time visiting this nest. Beautiful chicks! Although I heard from folks at the HI site that these chicks appear to be rather violent towards the small one…might have to pass…at least until I’m emotionally stable to deal with more nest tragedies…ugh

    32. goodson June 27, 2015 at 1:44 pm - Reply

      Can’t watch anymore. Too heart breaking to see nothing being done for the little guy. Signing off.

    33. thomas goodson June 27, 2015 at 1:32 pm - Reply

      Please have wildlife people get the runt out of the nest. The bully will likely beat up the the other largest chick too. The runt has a right to live and God has given us the technology to help out nature now and then.

      • Ted sheckler June 27, 2015 at 1:50 pm - Reply

        It’s called survival of the fittest. Let nature take its course. If it doesn’t survive it wasn’t meant to be

        • andreaallennyc June 27, 2015 at 3:15 pm - Reply

          “If it doesn’t survive it wasn’t meant to be” To me, that is a non sequitor … To me, if it doesn’t survive it means there wasn’t enough food … not enough available, dad not a good enough fisher, at this point in his life, parents not experienced enough to know how to feed them what they need, whatever the reason. It has pretty much nothing to do with the little chick at this point.

    34. Skip Edwards Telluride Colorado June 27, 2015 at 1:29 pm - Reply

      Re: the mesh in the net. Thanks Paul for all your concern and attention to this situation. Possibly with all the attendant dangers to people re: its removal, best to let things take their course. As an earlier comment stated, leaving such hazards in the outdoors such as netting and fishing line, etc, poses a very dire situation for unsuspecting wildlife. This site is very educational for all of us. Thanks.

      • andreaallennyc June 27, 2015 at 3:18 pm - Reply

        If there are actually attendant dangers. Any possible dangers from the parents can be easily dealt with … dangers from the pole, location, etc, are something else and I don’t know about those.

    35. Elaine June 27, 2015 at 1:10 pm - Reply

      Gracie is off the nest. Babies are left unattended like yesterday. This makes me very nervous.

    36. John G June 27, 2015 at 12:52 pm - Reply

      Wonderful to see how the osprey family lives. Disturbing to see the sibling rivalry at feeding time. Survival of the fittest ? Perhaps, but still disturbing to see the little one beat up daily. Hope he(she) makes it.

    37. Elaine June 27, 2015 at 12:11 pm - Reply

      It appears that PeeWee ate more at this feeding. He was at the head of the group and got fed first for a change. Now I think Gracie is calling for George again. Poor George. He is getting a workout. Maybe Gracie needs a break, however I hope the nest is not left unattended like it was yesterday. That makes me very nervous. I am glued to this site now.

    38. maryjo June 27, 2015 at 12:07 pm - Reply

      Also…George is one of the best fisher ospreys I have seen! It has amazed me to see the number of fish he has delivered in not so great weather. Winds and storms do not allow for great fishing. He is also very selfless, many times bringing whole fish instead of eating the head first for his own nourishment. He has sweetly fed Gracie and fearlessly defended the nest. Love George! <3

    39. Don Strashinsky June 27, 2015 at 12:03 pm - Reply

      I wish I wish the little one could eat some fish…It’s so hard to watch as the other siblings beat the runt to submission when all she wants to do is have a little meal. There is plenty to go around, and as a matter of fact, I think that was the biggest fish yet! And the irony of the whole thing is that the dad placed a huge fish bone on the runts neck to wear. I just hope she gets to eat and not starve to death. Anyway, It’s a great pleasure to see how nature does it’s thing and how impressive it is. Thank You Paul for bringing us this live footage to enjoy. I look forward to this every day!!!

    40. maryjo June 27, 2015 at 12:01 pm - Reply

      They are definitely in the sibling rivalry phase. It does get better! This is purely survival instinct and not cruelty or meanness on the part of any of the chicklets. They each exhibit varying degrees of assertiveness and submissiveness. The bigger chicks instinctively fight for food to survive. Lil’ one submits as a form of survival when necessary, but the little guy shows a lot of spunk as well! Gracie seems to know if she feeds the larger two first, they’ll “food coma” eventually and little one can eat. Hang in there people! Nature as it should be! 🙂

    41. Cathy June 27, 2015 at 11:36 am - Reply

      I’ve bee receiving comments via email regarding the little one. I can’t watch 🙁
      Haven’t had the heart to watch the live feed. All I can do is pray for runt. So sad!

    42. Debra June 27, 2015 at 11:12 am - Reply

      I can hardly watch this feeding at 11:10 AM ET! It just kills me to see the two older ones peck and bite the baby. Urghhhh … will they ever stop treating the baby so terribly?

      • andreaallennyc June 27, 2015 at 11:50 am - Reply

        The chicks are all fighting for their own survival. If there were enough food, the bigger ones wouldn’t be beating up on the little one much at all. The patents are working to make sure some chicks survive, if they fed all the chicks equally when there is not enough food, it would undermine their effort.
        In some bird species, I think siblings will routinely kill the younger ones. In Osprey, I think food supply seems to be what pushes extreme behavior between siblings.

        • Liz June 27, 2015 at 2:16 pm - Reply

          Just watched a show about maribou storks. They also have 3 eggs and normally in the wild only two will survive since it’s difficult for the parents to provide enough food for all 3. It’s said, but it is a fact of nature. I have multiple bird feeders in my yard, and from time to time a hawk will get one of the birds. This probably happens more often then I see, but at least some of the birds survive and the hawk gets to feed her family.

      • Nicky June 27, 2015 at 11:51 am - Reply

        11:45 am feeding … one of the larger chicks really beat up the runt. thought it was going to bite its head off.. poof little guy, don’t think it will survive much longer….natures way.. survival of the fittest….feel sorry for ‘da runt”

    43. Peter June 27, 2015 at 11:08 am - Reply

      Unfortunately, it looks as thought he end is near for the little one.

      • andreaallennyc June 27, 2015 at 11:53 am - Reply

        I think the baby is two weeks old so, according to the data presented earlier, this is the critical week (for the survival of third hatchlings). Yes, it doesn’t look good.

        • JB June 27, 2015 at 12:35 pm - Reply

          Yes, the critical week is beginning now. The truths of nature on earth are very difficult as we all become shielded from it with our own daily lives. Most of us just don’t see it, and if we do it’s our natural inclination to look away. The following video is quite graphic as it follows what happens in an Osprey nest when a chick has difficulty. The parents and siblings just ignore it and are not there to lend aid. I watched this video several days ago. The content is educational, but it’s hard to watch.

          ****Graphic Content*****

      • Patty June 27, 2015 at 4:38 pm - Reply

        Breaking my heart to see the siblings tearing at Pee Wee and not letting him get any fish from Momma….. I don’t think he’s going to make it….so so sad….

    44. Donna June 27, 2015 at 11:05 am - Reply

      The second feeding is even worse for the runt. The oldest has become very aggressive and beating it up badly. Its missed two feeding now.

    45. Peter June 27, 2015 at 10:42 am - Reply

      What is also amazing is the seeming indifference of the attending parent.

      I guess this helps insure “survival of the fittest”.

      • ospreyzone June 27, 2015 at 10:58 am - Reply

        I agree, it’s hard to accept that mom isn’t sticking up for the little one.

        • Patty June 27, 2015 at 11:48 am - Reply

          Whew!!Yay!!! Momma feeding Pee Wee now!!!!

      • Judith June 27, 2015 at 11:37 am - Reply

        I think the mom was doing the only thing she could do – feed the big ones faster so they’d fall asleep. By that time, the little one was asleep, too.

    46. Marilyn June 27, 2015 at 10:41 am - Reply

      I have to agree with Eleanor from this morning. It’s hard to watch that poor little osprey get beat up by the bigger ones. It surely will not survive, especially since it seems to get much less food than the other two.

    47. Joe S June 27, 2015 at 10:40 am - Reply

      Horrible to see the big chick beating up on the smallest one. 🙁

    48. Peter June 27, 2015 at 10:36 am - Reply

      The alpha chick is starting to really get aggressive with the baby. Hard to watch nature in it’s intensity.

    49. Rose Petejan June 27, 2015 at 9:35 am - Reply

      It’s so hard to watch the little one being pecked at by the older siblings. George needs to bring in more food.
      On a positive note check out http://www.cams.allaboutbirds.org It’s a very informative site; 4 barn owls nearing fledging. 3 hawks that have recently fledged, etc.

    50. Donna June 27, 2015 at 9:33 am - Reply

      I thought that the little one was doing great. But after watching this mornings feeding it was heartbreaking to watch. It was beaten up on by both and not fed well at all.

    51. Eleanor June 27, 2015 at 7:27 am - Reply

      As much as I have enjoyed watching, after this mornings feeding I’m not sure how much more I can take. It breaks my heart to see the little one get beat up, pooped on and get very little food. I keep telling myself to put the video down and let nature happen. Thank you Paul for providing all of us with this wonderful video of real nature up close and too personal. I’m sure I’ll be back…

      • andreaallennyc June 27, 2015 at 9:28 am - Reply

        And George taking half a fish away! The little one would have been fed enough (for this meal anyway) if he had left it. This pair is just not experienced. They will do better next year.

      • JB June 27, 2015 at 10:35 am - Reply

        Yes, it is getting more difficult to watch now. The biggest one is really pecking at the RUNT today and trying to take bites out of him. Sad to see, but a fact of life according to Darwin. Survival of the fittest doesn’t seem fair to we human beings.

      • Kim June 27, 2015 at 10:35 am - Reply

        I can’t watch anymore. I thought survival of the fittest was up to the parents, and didn’t know it would be the siblings. The baby will get weaker and not be able to fight back if they don’t let her eat.
        I was all for nature of things, but now I just want to get the baby out of there under the premise that the species was “endangered” and if allowed to eat and grow and catch up in development it will be just fine.

      • Heather June 27, 2015 at 10:56 am - Reply

        I am feeling the same way. The big babies are becoming increasingly violent and won’t let him get any food…even when they have had their fill. I don’t think they’re going to let him live. It’s getting harder and harder to watch.

      • Redkayak June 27, 2015 at 10:57 am - Reply

        The 10:30 feeding was awful. Pecked at by both syblings. Barely a morsel eaten.

      • Jo July 27, 2016 at 6:44 pm - Reply

        Although the little one does get boinked on occasion and has not had it easy, he does get plenty to eat Since I’ve been watching this nest, I’ve found the food supply is more than plentiful.

    52. Leanne June 27, 2015 at 5:42 am - Reply

      I don’t think there is anything more beautiful than when the sun comes up over that majestic bird in her nest. It’s absolutely breathtaking.

      • Patty June 27, 2015 at 10:40 am - Reply

        Addicted to this site! Sometimes it is heartbreaking. Gracie is feeding Big Guy and every time Pee Wee tries to get close to be fed he beats him to a pulp.Feeling so sad for the little guy………

    53. Leanne June 26, 2015 at 10:52 pm - Reply

      I agree that the mesh has to go but I’m not so sure George or Gracie would allow anyone to get close enough to actually remove it. Has anyone ever seen an instance where a chick was tangled and then removed? What did the parents do? If someone is sent to remove the mesh, I hope they wear protective gear because I sure wouldn’t want to mess with George or Gracie. I just hope the wind takes it! 🙂

      • ospreyzone June 26, 2015 at 11:25 pm - Reply

        Thanks for all the constructive information, we are reaching out to several possibilities for removal of mesh. I think that everyone is on the same page about removal but it doesn’t seem clear to some how challenging that might be. The nest is about 90 feet up in the air on an old TV antenna which sways a little in the wind (see pictures under the highlights section). We considered sending a willing young man up there this afternoon but decided that it was way to dangerous. It’s a long reach from the highest step to the camera. Both parents were watching us “like Hawks” and the likely hood of opposition to approach was a real concern, especially at 90 feet! In addition the tower is on a very small road with lot’s of big trees and over-hanging branches that will limit the size of equipment which can be brought in.

        Thanks

        Paul

        • Pat June 27, 2015 at 10:19 am - Reply

          George and Gracie know what they’re doing. They’ve now brought in a piece of burlap. Gracie knows her body will soon not be big enough to protect her chicks from the elements and from predators. I’ve seen both parents cover the babies with this cloth. Nature is wonderful. Great website. Thanks for sharing it with us.

        • Rose June 27, 2015 at 10:37 am - Reply

          Sad. I think this is little ones last day. Older one very aggressive and trying to kill him

      • andreaallennyc June 26, 2015 at 11:53 pm - Reply

        There are lots of instances where wildlife officials go to osprey nests and put things in or take them out … Including banding all the chicks (taking them out, banding them, returning them). This seems to be done with NO serious consequences. I’m certain there are ways to do it successfully, precautions to take, and things not to do … But you just need to talk to the folks who do it all the time.

    54. Elaine June 26, 2015 at 9:12 pm - Reply

      I think Gracie is very tired at times, especially when I observed her nodding earlier. I hope all of them get a good night’s sleep.

    55. Susan June 26, 2015 at 9:03 pm - Reply

      The net needs to go……You could ask the fire dept but you really need help and advice from a raptor biologist…..US Fish and Wildlife in your area could give you some assistance or direction in how best to get that net removed…..The Chesapeake Conservancy had a problem with an osprey with his talons caught in a net in a nest, and they climbed up it and helped untangle the bird….he never left the nest even after freed! I did see Gracie pick at it and carefully tug at it and move I off to the side so it’s not an immediate danger to them….Hope all works out for this osprey family!

    56. Rose Petejan June 26, 2015 at 8:56 pm - Reply

      Does anyone know how many fish George brought in today?

    57. Roise Petejan June 26, 2015 at 8:39 pm - Reply

      I’m thrilled that the little chick was able to get away from that mesh and you’re considering the removal of the mesh. Does the tree cutting company not have the trucks with the bucket attached to an arm. I believe they’re called boom trucks. Would this make removing the mesh a lot easier and less dangerous. I’ve seen pictures of this in Montana when they rescued a few osprey tangled in mesh?

    58. Nancy June 26, 2015 at 8:27 pm - Reply

      The only way ro remove the mesh is with a crane and a long arm to pick the mesh up amd throw it away

    59. Elaine June 26, 2015 at 8:25 pm - Reply

      I think Gracie is calling for George. Occasionally she looks as if she is nodding. I guess she is pretty tired. Hope they all sleep good tonight and stay safe.

    60. Debra June 26, 2015 at 7:54 pm - Reply

      Just a vent … It makes me so angry to see the older birds peck on the little runt!!!!!! I sure hope the little one is getting enough food, without being hurt!

    61. Bunny June 26, 2015 at 7:47 pm - Reply

      WHY does the camera keep freezing, is it because of the Newsday article and everyone in the whole of Long Island watching now?

      • ospreyzone June 26, 2015 at 11:46 pm - Reply

        It did seem comprimised, hopefully it will get better tomorrow. Sometimes the internet just slows down, and then comes back.

    62. JB June 26, 2015 at 7:03 pm - Reply

      The popularity of this website is increasing exponentially. It’s no small wonder that for many of us this is the first time viewing the wildlife of earth living their lives and having offspring in real-time. For me, it’s been a life-changing experience. I only need to click here and listen and watch and I feel more inner peace than ever watching mainstream TV. The bandwidth usage much be approaching maximum capacity as the video feed is experiencing ongoing delays tonight. So, to our kind owners of the site, and for all they have done to enable us to view these amazing activities, I want to make sure they know we have their backs. To ensure all those now viewing around the world can see without delay or interruption, it is important to purchase and enable more bandwidth to accommodate the increasing volume. I am sure many of the viewers, me included would be happy to contribute funding to that cause.

      • Leanne June 26, 2015 at 10:54 pm - Reply

        I’d be happy to contribute 🙂

      • Marcy June 27, 2015 at 7:56 am - Reply

        I agree, many of us would be happy to contribute money for more bandwith. Please post an address where we can send!

        • ospreyzone June 27, 2015 at 8:14 am - Reply

          Appreciate the sentiment, we are having some technical difficulties right now which are un-defined. We have structured our system to be scaleable and should be able to handle thousands of simultaneous users. The cable company is coming today and hopefully we can resolve. The other day we had over 500 concurrent users with no problem. We started seeing slight issues around 3:00 yesterday afternoon and the problem has been escalating ever since. Now it’s intermittently slowing down, seems better now. Let’s cross our fingers. Maybe Cablevision reset something?

          Paul

          Addendum: Cablevision came and now I have super bandwidth, whatever they did worked great. Thanks!

    63. Judith June 26, 2015 at 6:47 pm - Reply

      That was brilliant: George and Gracie both lifted the two-forked stick over the head of chick and moved it to the outer nest to provide a higher wall. What a team!

    64. Cathy H June 26, 2015 at 6:32 pm - Reply

      I hope the little one is ok.. It seemed like that one was either picking on him or fighting .. but he hasn’t moved since that happened.. I sure hope he’s ok..

      • Leanne June 26, 2015 at 7:11 pm - Reply

        The 2 older birds do tend to pick on Rocky, especially #1, who I named Gigi. I’m hoping Rocky is just tired from wrestling out of the mesh and is napping until the next feeding. 🙂

      • Barbara June 26, 2015 at 8:04 pm - Reply

        I am finding this hard to watch since one baby is attacking the littlest one!! Nature isn’t always fair! Mom is doing her best to feed all of them!

      • Moe June 26, 2015 at 8:51 pm - Reply

        The little guy (I call him Ronnie Burns) is fine. They lay low after getting picked on. Survival instinct I guess. Poor Gracie can’t fit over them anymore their getting solo BIG!

    65. Debra June 26, 2015 at 6:24 pm - Reply

      I am thankful the little one is now out from under the netting! One question: why is Gracie flapping her wings up and down, as if she’s upset about something. Is something wrong? After seeing the previous post about the baby birds being taken from the nest, I’m worried the other bird I’ve seen flying around may be a bird looking at picking up Gracie’s babies.

      • ospreyzone June 26, 2015 at 6:38 pm - Reply

        We’re all very grateful that things worked out. We would love to remove the mesh, however the tower is 85 feet above the ground which makes access very difficult. Please see the picture of tower in the highlights section. I went down with a local tree climber and we contemplated him climbing the tower but we both agreed that it was just too dangerous with the likelihood of mom and dad wanting to protect their young. They were agitated by our mere presence under the tower.

        • andreaallennyc June 26, 2015 at 8:57 pm - Reply

          Have you consulted with osprey experts? They seem to take nestlings from nests and put them in other nests and remove netting etc all without any major problems from the adults. I’ve seen the videos.

    66. JB June 26, 2015 at 6:23 pm - Reply

      NO, please NO!!! What is that bird? There is a large invader threatening Gracie and the nest.

    67. JB June 26, 2015 at 5:45 pm - Reply

      Are those “peck” marks on the back of the little RUNT’s head? One of his bigger siblings has been poking at him a bit lately.

    68. Marilyn June 26, 2015 at 5:30 pm - Reply

      I hope the little one survives & thrives.

    69. Jennifer June 26, 2015 at 5:10 pm - Reply

      Yes Baby #3 is fine.. I know he is small but he is very strong. I think he was hot and needed some shade..

    70. Denise June 26, 2015 at 5:07 pm - Reply

      How can we tell Gracie from George?

      • liz June 26, 2015 at 9:19 pm - Reply

        Gracie is the larger of the two and spends most of the time on the nest with her chicks. George is smaller and sleeker.

    71. ospreyzone June 26, 2015 at 4:50 pm - Reply

      Hi everyone,

      We are doing everything we can to get up to the nest and remove the mesh. It is very difficult to get up there. Fortunately, the chick seems to be out of the netting now.

      • Jara June 26, 2015 at 4:54 pm - Reply

        I’m beginning to think we should name the little one Houdini. This is the second time he had a run-in with that mesh and got himself out. There’s no holding that little guy back.

      • Heather June 26, 2015 at 5:13 pm - Reply

        His poor little head is stuck under that mesh 🙁

      • Barbara June 26, 2015 at 5:13 pm - Reply

        CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT! I am sure that the East Marion Department would gladly help!!

      • Loraine June 26, 2015 at 5:15 pm - Reply

        Thank you for helping them! I will feel much better when that mesh is removed. I am so grateful there are people who care. Thank you!

      • Judy June 26, 2015 at 5:25 pm - Reply

        Thank you. Our fingers are crossed.

      • RealNature June 26, 2015 at 5:46 pm - Reply

        This is nature we’re watching, so no helicopter-parenting allowed.
        ……and besides, that material is not the real danger…its the two siblings. Just go back and watch the last feeding. Sorry to say it, but I doubt the last hatchling will last more than a few days as food becomes more of a priority.
        Will be sad, but that is how nature is.

        • Susan June 26, 2015 at 9:12 pm - Reply

          One of the beauty of these cams is that while we can’t save every nest and every osprey, we can do something about the nests we have set cams up on…..It’s not a part of nature for a net or material that humans carelessly discarded be a threat to our wildlife….This will help educate some as to why it is so important NOT to carelessly discard your trash…Since this is a nest with a monitored cam, Fish and Wildlife in your area(I am from Md Eastern Shore area) should be called and get their advice on what to do about the net; also the siblings may be attacking the runt more since that net is in the nest….it’s strange to them and very unsettling, even to Gracie…..Just a thought…….Let’s all hope and pray for a positive outcome!

      • bean June 26, 2015 at 5:58 pm - Reply

        all of are prayers got answered god bless that little one

    72. Capt. P. June 26, 2015 at 4:49 pm - Reply

      Someone has to do something quickly as the little one (runt) seems to be caught in that netting in the nest and can not get out!

      P.

    73. Elaine June 26, 2015 at 4:49 pm - Reply

      I think PeWee is under the net. This is making me very nervous. I wish the net could be removed somehow.

    74. Rose Petejan June 26, 2015 at 4:47 pm - Reply

      I’ve tweeted a message to the osprey site in Montana and asked that they contact you.
      Something should have been done when it was first brought to the nest.

    75. Elaine June 26, 2015 at 4:45 pm - Reply

      I don’t see PeeWee (the smallest). I hope PeeWee isn’t under the net, because I see periodic movement of the net. I hope he is ok.

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