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IMPORTANT: Messages from osprey experts
I haven’t seen the little guy yet this morning, but I would be very surprised if he survived the night. That sure was tough to watch yesterday, but that whole process is as much a part of the essence of being an Osprey as is eating a fish. It’s part of the life of Ospreys that was rarely seen before we started putting cameras in nests. As hard as it is, we should not label the behavior as mean or cruel. Being mean or cruel implies that there is intent to do harm just for harm’s sake. Those young were responding to a set of stimuli (very little food being delivered to the nest and the presence of a very small young) in a way that evolution has hard-wired into them. It helps ensure their survival. Nature is not cruel. It is harsh, unforgiving, and often random (had the little guy been born 1st, he would have been just as aggressive as was his sibling), but not cruel or mean.
Paul Henry ospreyzone July 1, 2015 at 8:17 am
Thanks Rob for bringing your knowledge and experience to help us all gain perspective here. We are all saddened by the events that unfolded before our eyes and it’s only natural for all of us to feel and express our emotions appropriately. There have been many issues pertaining to intervention which have been discussed amongst us all. There is no doubt in my mind that the right decision was made, to let nature take it’s course. By the way, that doesn’t equate to heartless, on the contrary, nobody feels worse about this then the apparent decision makers. I say apparent, because when all was said and done, and all the issues were properly weighed, there really weren’t any other options. It was clearly pointed out, by experts, that intervening at this stage could have spooked the whole nest to the point of losing all the young. If the little one was saved, and nursed back to health, what kind of a life would it have had, perhaps caged up in a zoo. I remember when I was younger I saw a golden eagle in captivity, caged behind a wire mesh. I could practically see it’s tears. As far as placing the little one in another nest, such a low probability of success would never have justified the possibility of spooking the nest. There’s a piece of me, however heavy hearted, that believes that perhaps it is better to be born free and die free. We mourn for the little one as we marvel at the wonders of nature.
Thanks for your query, and you have my admiration for persevering. We know very well how tough your job is, including dealing with an anxious public.
Our policy with our Bird Cams project is essentially “just say no” to pleas for interference. The behavior you are witnessing – while seemingly cruel and heartless to us – is natural for many kinds of birds, especially those that feed on variable, unpredictable food supplies. The little nestling does have a chance to survive, but if it does not then that result was “meant to be” by the nature of Osprey breeding strategy. The wonderful things about these nest cameras also sometimes yield the difficult things for us to watch. As you might know, we actually post a “siblicide alert” on some of our cams where we suspect the possibility exists.
I’m copying your note to Charles Eldermire, project leader for our Bird Cams. He may have some additional comments, and he would be the one to ask if we might be able to use your stored files for biological analysis.
Best wishes, and good luck,
John W. Fitzpatrick
Director, Cornell Lab of Ornithology
It’s also important to acknowledge that intervening can also cause problems of its own—depending on the ages of the birds in the nest, disturbing them can trigger an early fledge. We have restricted the scenarios in which we would even consider intervening to injuries or dangers that are explicitly human-derived. For example, 3 or 4 years ago we were alerted by viewers that one of the osprey chicks at the Hellgate Osprey nest was entangled in monofilament line. We consulted with our partners there (wildlife biologists, raptor researchers, raptor rehabbers) to determine if the monofilament was an issue, and if intervening was both likely to solve the issue AND not have bad effects on the other nestlings. In the end, a quick trip to the nest was scheduled via a bucket truck, the monofilament was removed, and the nestlings all eventually fledged. In that case, all of the permits were already in hand to be studying the ospreys, and we had already discussed how to approach issues in the nest.
Good luck to the young one—hope it all turns out well.
Bird Cams Project Leader
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
I’ve been to your site—great cam! And I noticed the runt in the nest. This is just normal Osprey reproduction. It happens all the time and you should not intervene. It’s tough to watch, but it’s how nature works. Ospreys almost always lay 3 eggs and on average fledge between 1 and 1.5 young each year. They stagger the hatch so there is a spread of ages in the young. That way, if food is short, the first-hatched (and therefore largest) will get enough food to survive while the smaller nest mates do not. If all three young were the same size and there was only enough food for 1 young, none of the young would get enough food and they would all die. If there’s lots of food, the smallest will eventually get fed and can survive. These nest cams can show some gut-wrenching scenes. The most infamous perhaps was one of the very first Osprey cams (on Long Island somewhere), where the smallest young died. One of the adults carried it out of the nest and after several minutes flew back into the nest and fed it to the other young. Waste-not-want-not at its goriest. At Hog Island up in Maine just last week a Bald Eagle came in and took the young out of the nest. Last year at another nest, cameras documented a Great-horned Owl taking young Ospreys out of a nest in NJ or MD. All of these things have been going on for millions of years and Ospreys are doing fine.
Academy of Natural Sciences
About 15 min. ago George came with yet another headless fish and Sandy flew in landing on top of George. Very funny. Sandy didn’t stay long. Gracie is eating and there are now 2 other fish in the nest. No bird is going hungry today-thankfully!!
8:55 PDT Well , as several have already commented on, what once appeared to be a lack of fish is no longer the case at least for today. In my scrolling back the past 4 hrs. I can’t believe how many fish have come in and one was even left on the nest. I don’t know if the fish have become more plentiful or George has just matured as the season has gone by and now knows what he is to do. With luck these two will return next year with better parenting skills than they sometimes showed this year. If I remember this is their first year as parents is that correct ? Paul ? And with any luck Gracie will learn to be a better nest keeper !! :)))))))
All 3 were on the nest, Gracie and both chicks, each with a large fish. Chicks took off leaving Gracie with 3 fish!
1145 George brings in fish with head off Gracie still nest eating a fish baby two is trying to eat a whole fish with head on decisied let Gracie feed him or her instead
Gracie’s at the nest now. She looks a little worse for wear and exhausted. Hope she’s OK.
Yea, she’s sleepy. She has a fish in her talons with 2 leftover fish in the nest. What a day……..
Hot,Humid today. This time of year there is a proliferation of baby blue fish(Snappers), the creeks are teeming with bait. I guess now is the time our buddies start to fuel up for their journey.
Aug. 15 11:33EST
Looks like we have gone from the former (sometimes) days of famine to a feast today!!
Two fish in the nest and no one eating.
Maybe Ronnie and Sandy are out practicing their fishing skills?
Meant a good size not god size leftover. About 11:05 Gracie brings in ANOTHER fish headless so I guess she has come to the realization that she better eat her share before bringing it to the nest. She seemed to be calling for the girls and then Ronnie showed up and is eating the fish that Sandy has left behind and Gracie seems to be eating the fish see brought in- not sign of Sandy. I guess she is really full. It’s been nice watching her stand up for herself the last few days.
Around 11 Gracie just flew in with a fish with the head eaten but a pretty good size fish no one’s in the nest and she notices there’s still a whole fish there . Gracie calling out to her babies I wonder if she’s nervous that something happened not like the babies to leave food in the nest
Looks like Ronnie and Sandy have been off on adventures for some time and not interested in the fish feast Gracie is getting a much needed siesta
Times must be good. 11.00 am and the only thing in the birds nest…is a fish! (:
Bird nest or fish nest? 11:56 and there are 3 fish partially eaten and 1 tired Gracie. Looks like there was a party and everyone left a mess of fish mess behind.
10:53am nest has been empty for awhile but there is a lot of chirping above the nest. Pretty soon they’ll be on their way south.
10:40 NOBODY wants that gorgeous fish?! Not even the VF? Nice to know they’ve all had enough to eat.
Empty nest but for a large untouched fish!
After almost 2 hours Sandy gave up trying to do it herself..fish left in nest..
Scrolled back to 9:40 Sandy moved her fish over to where Ronnie had been eating, he was gone. She then appears to be eating that leftover then flew off. So now there is a god size leftover baking in the sun. Feast or Famine in this nest. Hopefully Gracie will return and get to eat now.
1020 am looks like a uneaten fish left on nest
Why is there a fish in the nest with no Osprey ? Are they full ?
About 8:30 EST Gracie brought in a fish, first she was feeding herself and Ronnie but Ronnie decided she wanted all of it and stole it for herself. Gracie brought another fish about 9:30 which Sandy immediately took from her. Poor Gracie was begging for food since both babies had one each and they weren’t sharing with her. She gave up and left. Ronnie and Sandy are well fed right now, but not Gracie. Maybe this is a step in her being confident that Sandy who has been getting more aggressive with getting food and is now able to fend for herself and she will be leaving soon. Thank you Sandy from Massapequa that tip about Ronnie having thicker legs than Sandy is very helpful to me when they are together in the nest.
Jo-Ann, your welcome. Thanks for updates.
June C usually May or June ospreys should arrive.
Scrolled back and I believe I saw George deliver a fish to the nest and one of the chicks got a grab on it and was eating shortly after that. Then saw Gracie deliver a 2nd fish to a very hungry chick who then began to have his/her breakfast. Oh and the 2nd chick to eat began by eating the first chicks leftovers because at this point Gracie and who I assume is Ronnie, had left the nest,. Good to know they both ate..
OK here’s my point of view reviewed tape several times it’s now about 9:45 Saturday morning- George brings in first fish baby 2 Sandy gets fed by George. Then baby 1 gets up and takes over fish George let’s baby 1which is Ronnie have it. Later on Gracie Brings in whole fish baby 2 which is Sandy walks over there and gets whole fish. Gracie will only gives fish up Gracie sits in the nest and watches then walk towards baby 1 and gets pecked by baby 1 which is Ronnie . Gracie leave Nest shortly after baby 1 leaves nest with at least half of fish left . Baby 2 is having a hard time can’t handle whole fish especially the head part, decides to go and finish baby Number one Ronnie’s half of fish that he/she left this leaves one whole fish left in the nest that Gracie brought so far and baby number two is eating baby number once leftovers . Of Course my opinion but as I said this is how I see it happen today good news is 2 fish two babies everyone’s been fed and Gracie and George were good parents today each bringing in the whole fish for the babies . Knowing Gracie she will come back to the nest and finish off the fish what a good mommy. Mostly because baby number two had a whole fish and decided to go eat leftovers from baby number one rather than eating a whole fish to itself tells me I believe my version is right because baby one never has a problem eating a whole fish baby two has a little bit rougher of her time
I know it’s hard to tell by my username RJONEAL but I am a female in my past postings I referred to my husband and children someone recently called me a male just FYI thanks
Here’s hoping dinner will be just as good.
I haven’t seen Gracie this morning or did I j7st miss seeing her. Yesterday afternoon it looked like her right foot was injured.
Hi are you talking about the way she stares at her foot and sometimes picks at it with her beak? Or do you see anything? I noticed a couple of days ago that she stares at her foot but I can’t see anything and it doesn’t seem to hamper her fishing. Weird…
Around 8:30 Mom brought a fish to nest..first to be feed, Ronnie then Sandy just went and took the fish and not sharing..Am I correct?
Fish everywhere Gracie and George look bewildered as to why Ronnie and Sandy are not ravenous
7:28. Where’s breakfast Mom…Sandy telling her Mom.
Yesterday we took a spin in our little boat..through out our morning came across 4 Osprey nests, all empty…coming back at Huntington harbor 3 Ospreys were flying close to the nest..I now have my husband keeping an eye out for nests..soon our new friends will be leaving…so sad. Will not miss a moment next year..what month do they come back?
Generally late March or early April
Good Morning, Empty Nesters 🙂
Sandy retuned at 7 :29 am calling out and looks like she has wet feathers Perhaos from attempting to fish fir her breakfast
going back on the live feed about 1 1/2 hrs, I see both chicks in the nest, then one leaves, I’m assuming Ronnie & poor Sandy is left all alone again.
Sandy alone in nest at sunrise preens then takes two short flights before she ( I think she is female) takes off Has not returned as of 7 : 28 am
Very happy! About 6:37 p.m., George brought a headless fish to the nest and, naturally, George carried on like he was the only kid on the nest. Sandy made an attempt to get it, but failed. However, after a while, she made a HUGE effort to get the fish and succeeded! Her sibling backed off and she ate the fish! She has been standing her ground today; looks like she is learning.
Carol V: What does “VF” stand for? Curious. Tx.
Visiting fledgling Sorry started when there was a visitor coming to nest and was easier to type
Mitchell, I totally agree with everything that rjoneal said. I, too, rewound the tape a couple of times to make sure I had it correct. Also, I believe he is correct in the personalities of the two siblings. Sandy is finally standing up for herself. So proud!
Mitchell as I said before see it’s almost dark and only one baby in the nest I believe that is Sandy the youngest.
7:45 EST. Chicks are sqwaking away, sun is setting over the water and I’m really going to miss these two ?
I am able to tell the difference. We all know Ronnie is the more aggressive bird. At 6:50pm today, George brought half of a fish and Ronnie took it while Sandy stood by and watched. But then a win for Sandy, who fought back and took the fish and ate it. If you watch Ronnie’s nose, there is a little streak of white that runs up the middle of the nose , while Sandy does not have that white streak at the base of the nose.
To Katherine: Yes, Kristopher Rowe’s photography is breathtaking. He really captures the emotion and environment of these birds. He is a chef who took up photography in his spare time. He has an interesting story that you can read here, http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20130726/bee-thistle-chef-kristofer-rowe-focuses-on-bird-photography-when-hes-not-in-the-kitchen
Be sure to check out his facebook page, the link it at the end of the article. I am glad you are enjoying his work as much as I do!
I did…his pictures are magnificent!
6:46pmEDT George delivers a partial fish which is grabbed by Ronnie
6PM Sandy runs in and body checks Ronnie and steals fish!
Wrong time 6:57pm Type worse when I’m excited
The kids are exhausted….all cozy together in the nest…..Winken, Blinken and plastic…..
Oh my gosh this is the most beautiful thing ever both babies laying down but face to face they have never layed down with their faces right next to each other usually their faces are at opposite ends when they lay down together how adorable. Not to mention it’s the first time Ronnie’s lay down on the nest in over two days Ronnie must be really scared since They had that intruder all day and are hunkering down . That intruder came so close to the nest you could see the wings right abouve the babies heads but they work together well and scared it off . Back to my previous statement the sun setting on the water the two babies cheek to cheek how adorable you couldn’t paint a better picture
August 14, 2005 6:30 EDT
Isn’t that scene cute, Newcomers to this site would think that they were pals. Ha!
Just came on. read through some of the comments checked out the new items. Did not not see any balloons but I do love the additions from this am There’s something for everyone in all prices. I will be ordering gifts. Thanks
The tail feathers are changing to distinguish between them, and Ronnie is bigger. It was Ronnie who took the fish from Gracie not Sandy.
It seems to me that the more aggressive chick is female. Just look at the difference between George and Gracie. George is definitey more patient and kinda low key. Gracie is the one who’s always yapping at him, screeching etc. I think the females have more at stake with the nurturing etc. and therefore makes her more dominant. Just sayin’
Gracie came in with a fish and Sandy took it from her and spent the next hour or so working on it by herself. I went back to look at the playback to see what happened, seeing someones post that Sandy and Ronnie did the fishing. Just checking-in.
Sandy came screaming back about 4:40pm. Both chicks were in nest and the fish was still in Ronnie’s claw. Around 4:43pm they were being buzzed by probable VF. At one point it
could be seen above nest, its wings and feet in the top of frame. The kids worked well together and did their alert calls very well and bird flew off. If only Ronnie would share that fish! Sandy helped him keep it!
About5:05pm Sandy lost patience with Ronnie and started a campaign to get the fish. Ronnie was resistant but Sandy was persistent! ( Hey, poetry) So Sandy finally has a late lunch. Hope Mom doesn’t steal this one!
I do believe it is Ronnie got the fish especially since Ronnie usually pretty much stays in one place and has pretty good control of the fish, and now that the other bird is in the nest definitely the other bird that does not have fish is Sandy you can tell by her cry and her behavior. I hope Ronnie leaves a little something for Sandy
THE BALLOON MUST GO from the store…it can get into a nest…any nest…and the string also….
Just went to a website, the Ospreyzone.com store had an ad- showing the balloon, oh well !
I’m not aware of any balloons nor can I find any.
They were there, glad to see they are gone. I hope the company has dropped them from the merchandise they offer. Thanks for checking.
Great to see one of the fledgelings soaking wet in the nest… “Heck, this fishing stuff is tough, but I’ll get the hang of it.” Love everyone who has been endeared to our two little Fledges. As for the names, cute, but I don’t know – Do Osprey come when you call them?
Great sense of humor Phil! Thank you, you put a smile in my day! ?
That Ronnie grabbed a fish away from parent who brought it & has been working very successfully to eat it all by him/herself. Gracy is screeching off to the side not daring to approach for some of it & Sandy is not in sight, probably screeching from the perch above. Ronnie is a winner. I’ll be on him/her to survive. Hard to admire that behavior, but it’s going to make him/her a winner.
If Ronnie is the larger one, it may not make him/her a winner to be sitting in the nest waiting for food all the time. The other one Sandy (sleeker, smaller, and more patient) has always been more willing and daring to go out and try to learn. Ronnie will have a rude awakening when dad takes over and says, go fish! I’m guessing Ronnie-female Sandy-male. Just my opinion from watching nests for over three years. Love the new merchandise!
3pm large fish brought to nest. Chick grabs it immediately mantels over it and starts to chow down. don’t see second baby yet
Just before 3pmEDT A chick flew in followed closely by Gracie with a good sized whole fish. Could the chick have been watching Mom fish and beat her back to nest? The chick took fish, but I don’t know which this is.
I’m guessing Ronnie
I like that a parent waits while chick is eating and keeps eye out for intruders. I’ve seen both parents do this.
And right after I typed about watchful parenting, Gracie took off! The other chick has been squawking from the perch telling his brother to leave some for him!
Those sparrows are so loud already! They grow so quickly! When they nested above my patio, they had at least two broods every summer. I had a birdfeeder in the yard and it was fun watching them feeding their fledglings around the yard. Now I have a bird chasing dog so in fairness to the birds, I’ve stopped feeding them. The dog is lucky I like him……
Sandy dropped in to nest just after 4:00pm.
@4:17 Sandy gets excited to greet George as he arrives with a………stick! “Not what I need DAD!!!!!!! ” So he takes off and Sandy goes to harass Ronnie.
And then seaweed from George @4:26 Busy boy but not food……..
Gracie is on perch yelling suggestions….” FISH! I can’t feed them enough!”
Sandy got tired of waiting. Ronnie eats too slow. She took off shortly after Dad
Mitchell, August 14, 2015 at 1:33 pm
Mitchell i’ve been watching this since it started. Although Ronnie is the aggressive one I do believe today was the first day Sandy was so hungry she decided to show her aggressiveness. I rewound the tape several times and I do believe it was Sandy who got the second fish and held onto it for dear life. I used to be able to tell them apart by their screams and calls were now that they’re older they’re too to similar off and on so that don’t work anymore . Most of us could tell the difference because Ronnie would always be the first to eat and Sandy would always wait her turn patiently but like I said today was a turning point for Sandy she’s finally growing up and realizing she will have to fight for her food. After watching Ronnie eat the whole entire fish this time when in the past Ronnie would at least leave the tail end for her, baby number two Sandy. This made Sandy mad since she waited her turn to get her share but there was none. she decided she was going to take matters into her own hands. Secondly Ronnie never stays and lays down in the nest anymore not even at night only Sandy does Sandy sleeps in the nest alone at least for the past two nights that I have viewed . And when that second fish came in the bird was laying in the net so I have to believe it was Sandy. She has come to realize mom and dad will not fend for her so she has to fend for herself . Also it was mentioned that Ronnie was wet and it looks like he might’ve went fishing but when I reviewed the tapes both birds appeared to be wet as it both attempted to fish on their own today so that’s a good start . Also I’ve been able to tell them apart by the way they eat their fish and Sandy has a much tougher time controlling handling and eating and the second fish was definitely that. Ronnie seems to have better experience with ripping the fish apart and controlling it and staying pretty much in one place Sandy kind of goes all over the place. I also think she was aggressive with parents today because she so upset that she didn’t get any fish this morning and realize she’s going to have to fight for it.
Of course this is my opinion .
Oh thats very interesting thank you very much
Hunger is a great motivator. Maybe it was just what Sandy needed.. in a month they will have to be self sufficient enough to fly to South America. No cruelty here, just necessity.
Thanks for all the new store items!!!
The new store items, perhaps none of my beeswax. Can we loose the Balloon, I feel they are problematic and inappropriate.
Just scrolled back to the 11:30 foot attack. That child needs a time out!!!
Many new items added to store this morning, a work in progress.
We will be adding additional items to the store as we can. By popular demand there are now sweatshirts and some items with extra large sizing. We are also modifying additional versions of our Ospreyzone logo to adjust for darker clothing colors and odd shapped items. If you see a funny white background under our logo check back later, we are working to correct.
I really don’t want to make more work for someone but would it be possible to give a description of cloth for the shirt’s, tee’s and sweat shirts? I only say this because 100% cotton shrinks a lot, rough on the skin, hotter and shirts with polyester is less likely to shrink, much softer and a lighter material … some have sensitive skin me being one of those, and would appreciate it very much.
Also, how are these chick’s going to learn that their meal comes from the water if not shown?
Make A Beautiful Day ~
It all comes with a 30 day money back guarantee, I can’t provide any more then what is there, I suggest you contact them directly with any questions concerning details of products. That’s the whole idea of using them, we are not involved with any of the details of products or fulfillment.
Paul you’re killing me I just went to the new store website to look at everything you’ve added so many choices. I want everything I’m going to go broke. Do you think you’ll still have the store up for Christmas ? Then I can have family members order me stuff for Christmas ? I already ordered when the store first open but now like I said everything looks wonderful glad you added some new additions thanks for listening to your viewers.
I don’t see any reason to take it down.
Paul, I think it’s wonderful that you’re donating the proceeds to the osprey.
Just a thought: maybe you could focus on the osprey in your area. There could possibly be other nests with fish line and tangled chicks. Let’s hope not!!! But, you never know.
Can some one that can really tell the chicks apart give a rundown of the feedings between 11 am and 1 pm EST. thanks.
Good Afternoon All!
To Alizarin: My deepest gratitude to you for your comment containing the website information to access this photographer’s vast portfolio of what can only be described as majestic and beautiful portrayals of Nature’s glory! Can you imagine being everywhere he has been to take these photos? Can you imagine all the beauty and drama he has been blessed to view! Not only of awesome Ospreys but many, many more of equally fantastic wildlife! Such talent is definitely a God given gift! I don’t know about you but i am in total awe!
Can be very frustrating not being able to tell them apart. wish we could have color banded the chicks for I D.
The only way I can tell them apart:
George slightly thinner and breast completely white.
Gracie has brown speckled fur almost like a necklace on her breast area.
I have no problem telling the parants apart I just ment the kids ITs very difficult for me Unless they are feeding. And now thats even getting difficult. but thanks
I believe it was George who brought a small fish to the next around 11:15 a.m. EST. Naturally, Ronnie immediately grabbed it. Actually bit his father’s leg! George must be wondering what type of son he raised. Poor Sandy was not allowed even a small morsel.
Thankfully, around noontime another big fish delivery came to the nest and Sandy stepped up to the plate. I believe it was brought in by Gracie. Sandy actually protected her lunch from her big brother. So proud of her! Gracie seems to be standing by, in case her intervention is needed. Good going, Sandy! Keep up the good work.
Marlene, that was actually Sandy who flipped out over the fishes. I had to scroll back a few times to look at it because I didn’t believe it. She actually took both fish. I’ve finally noticed that Sandy has fewer spots on her chest than Ronnie.
Hi Marlene. I saw it exactly the way you did. Go sandy!!!!!
Gracie flew in at Noon EDT with a nice big fish. Ronnie wrestled her for it and, in the melee, Sandy dropped what she had to grab it away. He put up a fight but Ronnie got it.
Sandy never went back to his fish. He prefers to wait for Ronnie. Gracie found that fish and polished it off. Sandy did make a 1/2 hearted attempt again for the fish but wound up flying off. Gracie still on nest; watching her feet (meditating?).
Gracie did a good job watching over Ronnie while he ate. And ate. And ate!
Almost an hour and Ronnie still workin’……Sandy is back and hopeful…
They are back in that bottom corner. Lately, as much as I love the water view so we can see fly-ins, I wish we could see what goes on in that spot. Guess we can’t have it all
It sounds like Sandy is sweet talking Ronnie. Wish him luck!
About 1:37pm Sandy got impatient…Ronnie was eating so slowly he must have been full. Sandy pushed in and took possession. Ronnie took off shortly after; I was concerned he might fall after all he ate!
Poor Sandy….Gracie came in after a few minutes and took what was left of that fish…..Sandy flew off then a few minutes later a chick came off perch and took fish from Gracie. I can’t tell if Sandy flew around and reclaimed fish or if Ronnie was waiting his chance. Musical fish osprey style!
Sometime around 11:30am, George came to the nest with a fish. One chick in nest, not sure which one, wanted that fish so badly it grabbed Georges leg instead of the fish. From what I’ve been reading, Ronnie is the more aggressive one, so maybe it was Ronnie.
Ronnie is a big bully. Had George’s foot instead of the fish.even try to peck at him. Sandy needs her own fish.
That was Sandy….standing her ground!
Kathryn, I may be mistaken, but I actually think that it was Sandy who had a meltdown with the fish. I scrolled back a couple of times to check because I couldn’t believe it. I finally noticed that, besides having thinner legs, Sandy has fewer spots on her chest than Ronnie. I think it’s about time for George to show the chicks how to fish before someone loses a leg.
Both kids in the nest. One is eating a fish, the other is not. I can’t tell them apart.
Ronnie is eating, sandy is crying for fish. she hasn’t eaten today yet.
!!:33amEDT Chick has been in nest for a while, so I think it’s Sandy. George brings in a fish and the chick grabs it and mantles it. He even goes after George! A minute later, you came hear the screaming start from a distance as the other chick comes barreling in.
That was 11:33am. Was excited to see Sandy getting fed! The second chick tried hard to intimidate the first chick in to giving up the fish, but no luck. I think Sandy may have just stuck up for his stomach! At least one parent is on the perch and Ronnie is doing a lot of complaining! Need earplugs he’s so shrill!
Rewound the tape and saw the foot pulling part. Also saw that while Sandy was guarding the fish there was a VF flying around. George did an excellent job of standing over his chick and warning away the intruder. Good job, Dad! When Ronnie came screeching in, Dad went to perch to let them work it out.
Here comes Ronnie…Sandy standing her ground. Ronnie screeching for lunch.
oh my…11:33 am EST. Sandy in nest laying down and george /gracie brought a fish. She snatched that thing so fast and started snipping at mom/pa. She layed over the fish as if to say” not this one…this one is mine” !!!
Got a late start on my osprey fix today. Weaning myself gently. Was able to scroll back and see the 6:30am action of the toe pull. Ronnie was surprised! But it didn’t scare him into sharing…
Lot of empty nest again…visit by, I’m guessing, Sandy. George was in about 9:30 with seaweed. Nobody home. One chick, prob Sandy came back after he left and has been hanging around. Gracie flew in about 10 with a stick. Got a loud greeting; sounds like Ronnie is on the perch.
Cicks have been in and out. Don’t know if it’s the same one. About 10:25ish the chick appeared to be wet and shaking off. Diving practice? It’s probably Sandy because he’s staying and laying down in nest. About 10:50 he started some really loud, plaintive crying and looking toward perch. Since as far as I know he hasn’t eaten. He’s been yelling off and on all morning. No more baby voice! Other chick came in a few minutes ago.
Mom was on perch. Looked like she took off after both chicks talked to her, Camera shook a little.
11:04 Someone flew straight in to the perch. A lot of hopeful begging but no food. Judging by chicks reactions, the adult took off a minute or so later and then one chick followed. Could the plan be to lead them out? Osprey class in action?
One of the chicks came back to the nest all wet around 10:40 a.m. EST. I would venture to say it’s Sandy, because she loves her nest, but I don’t think she would attempt fishing. However, if she is starving, maybe she would.
Wonder which one it is.
I am pretty sure Sandy is the one with a bit more color on her chest, right? I know that females tend to have mottled brown on their chests, while males have pure white. Just making sure that I am labeling these babies correctly ^_^ – Tora
To June C: I believe Sandy’s first flight was the day after Ronnie’s. I was lucky enough to have seen it, around 9:00 a.m. that morning (NY time). If you scroll back to that date, maybe you can locate it.
I, too, tell the chicks apart by their personality. Ronnie is more aggressive, whereas Sandy is placid. I am glad that she is getting more assertive, but I wish George would teach them how to fish so that she can catch her own. Don’t believe she has eaten this morning, and it’s now 9:35 a.m. EST!! Poor baby. ;-(
Paul, Have you given any thought to listing the nest with Airbnb when it becomes available? Noisy occupants, and coming and going at all hours doesn’t seem to be a problem.
Around 6:30 or so Eastern, George brought in a fish and of course Ronnie grabbed it. Sandi wanted a bite and Ronnie started beating her off. So Sandy grabbed onto one of Ronnie talons and started yanking on it. She didn’t get the fish but shocked the heck out of Ronnie. Go Sandy
I saw that too- it was pretty funny!
Good morning! I see it is a beautiful day on Long Island! I see one osprey in the nest, can see the tail of one on the cam! I see they have been named Sandi and Ronnie….which one is which, and how can you tell them apart?
I agree with Sandy from Massapequa. I thought Sandy’s legs looked thinner and that’s how I’ve been telling them apart. That’s also why I refer to Sandy as a she. Ronnie is more aggressive so I refer to Ronnie as a he. But this is only the way I personally tell them apart.
Watched this on replay. Hilarious.
8:45 am no chicks visible in nest right now but hear a lot of chirping. some one must be on a perch. Leads me to believe that Sandy is doing okay.
About 6:30 EST Gracie or George brought a piece of a fish to the nest, Ronnie took it for herself but Sandy actually went after it and tried to take it away from Ronnie. She didn’t succeed but gave it a good try. She was so brave. Ronnie ate the entire piece and left.
Sandy didn’t get any food but watching her attempt to take food from Ronnie was a big step. . She is alone in the nest now and is calling out so hopefully food gets delivered soon.
Checking in this morning and the nest appears to be empty!
When I went down to the end of the page to write someone apparently flew back in. Is it Sandy?
I have watched every day since the eggs were laid. #1 Ronnie was born June 12…#2 Sandy was born 1 day later June 13…#3 Pee-Wee 3 days after # 1 was born on June 15th.
So this Friday Ronnie will be 10 weeks old and Sandy on Saturday will be 10 weeks old. I think Sandy is a slower learner because she’s scared of Ronnie’s aggression. When Ronnie
is on the perch, Sandy moves in to Gracie for food…and has bravada.
I was lucky enough to see Ronnie’s first flight Aug 7 at 6:30 am…When was Sandy’s first flight away from nest?
Sandy has been alone last i checked at 8:45pm…It helps to read the other comments to confirm who I think who is who…
I look at their talons. Sandys legs seem thinner and smaller size talons. Ronnie’s legs look thicker and his talons look bigger (grip) Anyone notice the same?
I’m starting to think some of our viewers that have been with us from the beginning may have signed off.
Is Trinity. Gamma. Katherine K .CarolIV ,Mitch,JP, JB, Bonnie any of you original viewers still there ? trying to determine when baby 2 Who is now named Sandy was born Or should I say how many days after baby 1 Who is now called Ronnie ? I thought it was about five days apart Paul thinks it was only a day or two anyone know the answer to this ? So much time is gone by it’s hard to remember that far back. I think it was either JP or JB who used to always let us know every week when it was there birthdays. If it’s only a couple days apart then there’s no reason why Sandy is so far behind on maturing but if they are a week or so apart that would explain why Sandy is not ready to quite mature as fast.
Ronnie was born June 12. Sandy was born June 13 and PeeWee was born June 15. 🙂
I think some others have answered by now but I’ll agree that the hatching dates were June 12, 13 and 15.
I’ve only found out about this site between the hatching of chicks 2 and 3, so something tells me there are 2 JP’s… I am going to ID as JP(K) from now on, just in case. I tried to go back to earlier discussion pages to find out the actual days, but it seems some earliest pages have been archived due to the extreme popularity of this site. I was under the impression that chick number 3 was least 4 days behind chick number ones hatching, but don’t know firsthand.
Spelling error I meant to say sweet Sandy she’s definitely giving us a good show.